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Does scouting really qualify as a game? I find the verbiage here quite confusing. -- WestonWyse 20:04, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Note: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pathfinder Scouts Association had no consensus for deletion, but did result in that article being redirected here. Obviously, no prejudice against recreating that article if notability concerns can be addressed. Similarly, there might be history there that can be used here. GRBerry 06:32, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm happy to have a go at trying to sort this into an article, as the RESA side seem to be active in a local town and I may be able to get some up-to-date information. I'll also have a go at sorting out the history side of the old entry into something approximate to an article standard. Please note, though, that this does not mean that I am for or against the merge at the moment! DiverScout 21:52, 19 May 2008
As best I see, this article is about "traditional Scouting" as practiced by the B-PSA and the PSA. There is no "traditional Scouting movement", other than some hypothetical material that is referenced from http://www.inquiry.net/traditional/index.htm. I simply do not see the purpose here. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 12:55, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
In the section titled "Differences", it is stated: "There are several differences between modern Scouting and the Traditional Scouting movement:
Sorry i am not familiar with this topic, but could someone please clarify if the dot-point is describing what is in modern scouting vs. what is in Traditional Scouting. All the other dot-points are similarly unclear on what is the modern vs. what is the traditional practice. Hope this helps someone improve this article somewhat. doncram ( talk) 05:05, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm throwing in my chips and calling here. I think most of this article is bogus. There is no international traditional Scouting movement. There are some national Scouting organizations that base their program on their interpretation of traditional Scouting, but each is different, and none uses the same program.
Every reference in this article is to http://www.inquiry.net/. Lets look at http://www.inquiry.net/traditional/index.htm in particular and pick out a few points:
Someone please show me where this stuff has actually been implemented? --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 15:48, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
I think Ed is largely correct. There is a movement across the world to retain traditional scouting practices and reject modernization, but is it not well organized and the best sources are to those belonging to specific examples of traditional scouting organizations. We have to very careful indeed about sources in this area, because quite frankly many arise from hope rather than reality. They are what someone wants Scouting to be like, not how it is. The site mentioned is not the only one that I doubt is a reliable source. I have been meaning to seek the opinion of someone who I think has a great knowledge of scouting sources. I will now do that. Nevertheless, this article could be made into a decent article. Let us add more information about national organizations and world organizations that do exist and remove material that is linked to this one source. -- Bduke (Discussion) 21:44, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
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As mentioned in several places above, this article was a bit of a mess. Most of the citations directed to one person's blog, and very little of the material was supported by reliable sources. I have done a rewrite, attempting to strip away the editorializing and speculation, bringing in sources from the organizations themselves as well as reliable press reports. I have also eliminated a lot of the jargon and undefined concepts that other commenters have pointed out as confusing; if anyone would care to re-write those for a general audience please feel free to add back in. SixFourThree ( talk) 05:37, 21 October 2020 (UTC)SixFourThree
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Does scouting really qualify as a game? I find the verbiage here quite confusing. -- WestonWyse 20:04, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Note: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pathfinder Scouts Association had no consensus for deletion, but did result in that article being redirected here. Obviously, no prejudice against recreating that article if notability concerns can be addressed. Similarly, there might be history there that can be used here. GRBerry 06:32, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm happy to have a go at trying to sort this into an article, as the RESA side seem to be active in a local town and I may be able to get some up-to-date information. I'll also have a go at sorting out the history side of the old entry into something approximate to an article standard. Please note, though, that this does not mean that I am for or against the merge at the moment! DiverScout 21:52, 19 May 2008
As best I see, this article is about "traditional Scouting" as practiced by the B-PSA and the PSA. There is no "traditional Scouting movement", other than some hypothetical material that is referenced from http://www.inquiry.net/traditional/index.htm. I simply do not see the purpose here. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 12:55, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
In the section titled "Differences", it is stated: "There are several differences between modern Scouting and the Traditional Scouting movement:
Sorry i am not familiar with this topic, but could someone please clarify if the dot-point is describing what is in modern scouting vs. what is in Traditional Scouting. All the other dot-points are similarly unclear on what is the modern vs. what is the traditional practice. Hope this helps someone improve this article somewhat. doncram ( talk) 05:05, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm throwing in my chips and calling here. I think most of this article is bogus. There is no international traditional Scouting movement. There are some national Scouting organizations that base their program on their interpretation of traditional Scouting, but each is different, and none uses the same program.
Every reference in this article is to http://www.inquiry.net/. Lets look at http://www.inquiry.net/traditional/index.htm in particular and pick out a few points:
Someone please show me where this stuff has actually been implemented? --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 15:48, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
I think Ed is largely correct. There is a movement across the world to retain traditional scouting practices and reject modernization, but is it not well organized and the best sources are to those belonging to specific examples of traditional scouting organizations. We have to very careful indeed about sources in this area, because quite frankly many arise from hope rather than reality. They are what someone wants Scouting to be like, not how it is. The site mentioned is not the only one that I doubt is a reliable source. I have been meaning to seek the opinion of someone who I think has a great knowledge of scouting sources. I will now do that. Nevertheless, this article could be made into a decent article. Let us add more information about national organizations and world organizations that do exist and remove material that is linked to this one source. -- Bduke (Discussion) 21:44, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
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As mentioned in several places above, this article was a bit of a mess. Most of the citations directed to one person's blog, and very little of the material was supported by reliable sources. I have done a rewrite, attempting to strip away the editorializing and speculation, bringing in sources from the organizations themselves as well as reliable press reports. I have also eliminated a lot of the jargon and undefined concepts that other commenters have pointed out as confusing; if anyone would care to re-write those for a general audience please feel free to add back in. SixFourThree ( talk) 05:37, 21 October 2020 (UTC)SixFourThree