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I did not feel like this section was badmouthing TradeMe, as mentioned by 222.153.181.219.
It is reasonably well known that TradeMe's public stance is "no automated software". (However, this rule strangely doesn't seem to apply to sellers software -- see 'Auctionitis' and 'TradeTool'). TradeMe have indeed requested the immediate shutdown of several services released (e.g., 'TradeMe Sniper', 'HotBid', 'AuctionBar' and 'TraderContact') and have threatened legal action if this did not happen. I have personally seen two such letters, and have been at the receiving end of two phone-calls from TradeMe regarding such software.
I feel that, as the number of services being released is increasing quite rapidly, this issue is very pertinent and should be mentioned.
I've tried my best to add a little balance to this, although I think it would be good to add something about AuctionItis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.97.188.148 ( talk) 00:55, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes, there is a lot of software that is actively used on TradeMe, including Auctionitis, TradeTool and OMINS. TradeMe doesn't seem to have a problem with these tools -- at least they haven't made any efforts to stop their use.
It's buying tools that seem to be the problem (such as AuctionBar and Snipe on TradeMe).
Unfortunately it's hard to expand on this issue as TradeMe don't make their stance on software publicly available.
All Trade Me users are bound by the site's terms and conditions (available in the 'help' section) which forbid using any automated tools to access the site. I'd say that was pretty clear
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Trademe runs a messageboard which is amongst the busiest in New Zealand. However over time it has become abit of a haven for racists. Would a section about that be prudent here?
We need an updated screenshot of the site to show the newer links to smaps and stuff.co.nz. The main concern with the current one is that it's in a very lossy jpg format, a png would be much better. Richard001 07:52, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Besides the screenshot, further images that would improve the article are
Most of this is fairly trivial and dated by now. The most notable changes/improvements should be placed in the history section.
I notice that one or two people (maybe it's just one person, I don't know) have been trying to add material on Tradefree to the article. This will of course be reverted as spam unless citations are provided. It is not that we are trying to keep information on competitors or alternatives out of the article, of course. A mention of Zillion is already provided, in fact. But for such material to be included some indication of the notability of the site is needed. If there was an article in major newspaper or something similar discussing an alternative website, it could certainly be added - and would improve the article. However despite searching for any such material on the web, I haven't been able to locate anything appropriate. If anyone can do so, please go ahead, but unsourced material will continue to be deleted on sight and stern warnings given. Richard001 07:05, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
How about allgoods.co.nz? There are many notable news articles about this alternative. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chindokiwi ( talk • contribs) 02:29, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
Shopless [1] was founded in 2016 and is an online marketplace for Kiwis [2]. They have been mainly successful in the jobs category (as of today they are the 4th largest job site in NZ, after Seek, TradeMe and MyJobSpace).
References
At the moment the article has is Morgan's comment:
"...I think there are big cultural issues there that are just not well understood. For example the Americans think that everyone has a zip code [...] they were a little late in and then they launched in US dollars."
I'm slightly sceptical that it was simply "cultural issues" that did for eBay, considering that their UK site is extremely successful, and we don't have zip codes or buy in US$ either! Surely there was more to it than "cultural issues"? 86.136.251.18 11:03, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
I thinks its due more to network effects rather than a natural monopoly. 210.54.238.182 ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 22:05, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
When providing a reference for web traffic, the claim has changed from "Web traffic originating in New Zealand" to "60% of New Zealand's web traffic". The second claim is clearly nonsensical given that Trademe is the number 2 site in NZ and given the substantial percentage of NZ "web traffic" which originates overseas. I suspect this is a typical press release from a PR person short on details. My original reference was a job ad (hence now untraceable from trademe seeking a senior systems engineer - it was clearly written by someone with technical knowledge of their operation. On that basis, I shall re-insert the NZ-based part of the claim. dramatic ( talk) 22:07, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Lixtor reference was there because their case is presented on **notable** newspaper National Business Review. It is not spam. Attempt to remove the Lixtor reference considered vandalism as the text was there with proper references. Nma wiki ( talk) 01:22, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Someone (or maybe TradeMe itself) keep on trying to remove the section "Clashes with Rivals" without giving any academic reasons. Could someone keep an eye on this vandalism issue please? Nma wiki ( talk) 20:03, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Despite references Lixtor is absolutely irrelevant to the Trade Me story. It is one of many sites that copied T's & C's, one of many "rival" auction sites and has an Alexa rank of 7,295,500 as I write this. I can only suppose that someone from Lixtor is editing and re-editing this piece. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.98.80.14 ( talk) 23:09, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
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I did not feel like this section was badmouthing TradeMe, as mentioned by 222.153.181.219.
It is reasonably well known that TradeMe's public stance is "no automated software". (However, this rule strangely doesn't seem to apply to sellers software -- see 'Auctionitis' and 'TradeTool'). TradeMe have indeed requested the immediate shutdown of several services released (e.g., 'TradeMe Sniper', 'HotBid', 'AuctionBar' and 'TraderContact') and have threatened legal action if this did not happen. I have personally seen two such letters, and have been at the receiving end of two phone-calls from TradeMe regarding such software.
I feel that, as the number of services being released is increasing quite rapidly, this issue is very pertinent and should be mentioned.
I've tried my best to add a little balance to this, although I think it would be good to add something about AuctionItis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.97.188.148 ( talk) 00:55, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes, there is a lot of software that is actively used on TradeMe, including Auctionitis, TradeTool and OMINS. TradeMe doesn't seem to have a problem with these tools -- at least they haven't made any efforts to stop their use.
It's buying tools that seem to be the problem (such as AuctionBar and Snipe on TradeMe).
Unfortunately it's hard to expand on this issue as TradeMe don't make their stance on software publicly available.
All Trade Me users are bound by the site's terms and conditions (available in the 'help' section) which forbid using any automated tools to access the site. I'd say that was pretty clear
121.73.163.49 (
talk)
12:10, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Trademe runs a messageboard which is amongst the busiest in New Zealand. However over time it has become abit of a haven for racists. Would a section about that be prudent here?
We need an updated screenshot of the site to show the newer links to smaps and stuff.co.nz. The main concern with the current one is that it's in a very lossy jpg format, a png would be much better. Richard001 07:52, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Besides the screenshot, further images that would improve the article are
Most of this is fairly trivial and dated by now. The most notable changes/improvements should be placed in the history section.
I notice that one or two people (maybe it's just one person, I don't know) have been trying to add material on Tradefree to the article. This will of course be reverted as spam unless citations are provided. It is not that we are trying to keep information on competitors or alternatives out of the article, of course. A mention of Zillion is already provided, in fact. But for such material to be included some indication of the notability of the site is needed. If there was an article in major newspaper or something similar discussing an alternative website, it could certainly be added - and would improve the article. However despite searching for any such material on the web, I haven't been able to locate anything appropriate. If anyone can do so, please go ahead, but unsourced material will continue to be deleted on sight and stern warnings given. Richard001 07:05, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
How about allgoods.co.nz? There are many notable news articles about this alternative. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chindokiwi ( talk • contribs) 02:29, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
Shopless [1] was founded in 2016 and is an online marketplace for Kiwis [2]. They have been mainly successful in the jobs category (as of today they are the 4th largest job site in NZ, after Seek, TradeMe and MyJobSpace).
References
At the moment the article has is Morgan's comment:
"...I think there are big cultural issues there that are just not well understood. For example the Americans think that everyone has a zip code [...] they were a little late in and then they launched in US dollars."
I'm slightly sceptical that it was simply "cultural issues" that did for eBay, considering that their UK site is extremely successful, and we don't have zip codes or buy in US$ either! Surely there was more to it than "cultural issues"? 86.136.251.18 11:03, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
I thinks its due more to network effects rather than a natural monopoly. 210.54.238.182 ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 22:05, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
When providing a reference for web traffic, the claim has changed from "Web traffic originating in New Zealand" to "60% of New Zealand's web traffic". The second claim is clearly nonsensical given that Trademe is the number 2 site in NZ and given the substantial percentage of NZ "web traffic" which originates overseas. I suspect this is a typical press release from a PR person short on details. My original reference was a job ad (hence now untraceable from trademe seeking a senior systems engineer - it was clearly written by someone with technical knowledge of their operation. On that basis, I shall re-insert the NZ-based part of the claim. dramatic ( talk) 22:07, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Lixtor reference was there because their case is presented on **notable** newspaper National Business Review. It is not spam. Attempt to remove the Lixtor reference considered vandalism as the text was there with proper references. Nma wiki ( talk) 01:22, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Someone (or maybe TradeMe itself) keep on trying to remove the section "Clashes with Rivals" without giving any academic reasons. Could someone keep an eye on this vandalism issue please? Nma wiki ( talk) 20:03, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Despite references Lixtor is absolutely irrelevant to the Trade Me story. It is one of many sites that copied T's & C's, one of many "rival" auction sites and has an Alexa rank of 7,295,500 as I write this. I can only suppose that someone from Lixtor is editing and re-editing this piece. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.98.80.14 ( talk) 23:09, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
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