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I think that the best thing to do here would be to divide things up between Vertebrate trachea and Invertebrate trachea.
Just saying "insect" trachea (as i have in the past) is not fully correct, as insects are just one class within the arthropod phylum to be tracheate.Hello if you arte like 12 and under dont read this is doesnt make sense trustr me
There's also another invertebrate trachea, i believe in molluscs, that should be mentioned.
So the question is now... do we want two pages with a disambiguation page for "Trachea" or do we want to keep the two sections on one page?
I'm inclined to go with the disambiguation.
In that case, the merge should go ahead, with the vertebrate trachea page. james waters 20:24, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
To the insect statement could added "...where oxygen is absorbed into the body." -- azwaldo 19:42, 27 Dec 2003 (UTC)
what rings keep the trachea open? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.116.153.58 ( talk • contribs) 16:51, 19 September 2007
Your neck is the treaches air goes in and out!!!!!!!!!!!1 got ir get it good —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.48.247.143 ( talk) 21:51, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
There is no reason that these articles can't be displayed on the same page. Both are short, and the context provided by additional information will improve the quality and readability of both articles. Additionally, it's unnecessary to fragment these two articles, and this is not standard for the vast majority of articles, which harmoniously display human and other animal information on the same page. Therefore, I propose a merge LT910001 ( talk) 01:50, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
Same reason as stated above. LT910001 ( talk) 01:50, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
Support With sufficient division there should be no confusion. CFCF ( talk · contribs · email) 07:16, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
I think it should be noted in the article that the scientists managed to grow trachea into laboratory and they successfully implanted them into patient's bodies. WSJ, April 30, 2013 - Daily Mail, 8 July 2011. — Ark25 ( talk) 14:10, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
Stub hardly changed in nine years - better presented on target page Iztwoz ( talk) 07:44, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
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@ Tom (LT): Two minor things, I'll mark them up here so they don't get lost in the back-and-forth below:
In front of the lower trachea lies the manubrium of the sternum, the remnants of the thymus in adults, which has involuted over time, most quickly from pubertyI'm still not sure I understand this sentence. Are you trying to point out two separate structures: (1) the manubrium of the sternum, and (2) the remnants of the thymus (which involuted over time)? The way the sentence is worded now, it gives one the impression that the manubrium of the sternum IS the remnant of the thymus (i.e. it reads as if "the remnants of the thymus in adults" is an explanatory clause giving further detail about the manubrium). If the manubrium and the thymus remnants are two different things, then a well-placed "and" or "as well as" would make that sentence clearer.
Otherwise it looks great! I'm glad to see the article much-improved! I hope all is well on your end. Ajpolino ( talk) 18:15, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
1. It is reasonably well written.
This is the only complete tracheal ring, the others being incomplete rings of reinforcing cartilage.This sentence came as a bit of a surprise, since I didn't know why we were talking about rings. Perhaps it and the following sentence would make more sense to the uninitiated if you first introduced that the trachea's structure is provided by 16-22 rings, etc. Then tell me that the cricoid cartilage at the front end is the only complete ring.
The trachea develops in the second month of development.- Reads redundant "develops.. development." Any other word you could use?
with the isthmus of the gland overlying the second to fourth rings, with the lobes of the thyroid stretching to the level of the fifth or sixth cartilage.is a bit confusing to read ("with..., with..."). Can you rephrase somehow?
In front of the lower trachea lies the manubrium of the sternum, "manubrium" required me to take a quick trip to sternum. Not the end of the world, but would "top of the sternum" be not equally correct the sternum is formed from three structures (manubrium, body and xiphisternum)?
In front of the lower trachea lies the manubrium of the sternum, the remnants of the thymus in adultsat first glance I thought "the remnants of the thymus..." was an appositive explaining what the manubrium of the sternum was. Now I'm fairly certain it's a list of two items. Can you clarify the text?
Arteries that supply the trachea do in small branches that supply the trachea from the side.reads weird. Perhaps "do so in small..."?
they split into inferior and superior branchesI had to google what inferior and superior mean in anatomy. My personal preference, would be to reword or wikilink the first instances here to Anatomical_terms_of_location#Main_terms, but this is not a requirement for the review, and I'll leave the decision to you.
but also more variable in... site in relation to its surrounding structures.? Are there particular structures that are sometimes in different places in children? If this would require lengthy explanation, it would be nice, but not necessary for this review. If it's easily explained, that would help.
glandular, modified simple columnar epithelial...what does "modified simple" mean here?
The epiglottic vallecula is an important anatomical landmark for carrying out this procedure.I'm not sure what this means.
In particular, the right paratracheal stripe should be no greater than 4 mm from the right margin of the trachea."should be", or else you have a disease of the trachea? Or else you have a problem with your radiograph? Or else you're not looking at a human neck? Can you clarify?
2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
The trachea is surrounded by 16 - 22 rings of hyaline cartilage. The microanatomy subsection has
The trachea is surrounded by 16-20 rings of hyaline cartilage. They have the same cited source so I assume the disagreement (20 vs. 22) is just a typo?
Mounier-Kuhn syndrome is a very rare congenital disorder of an abnormally enlarged trachea.
3. It is broad in its coverage.
In 2008, a Colombian woman, Claudia Castillo (30), received a trachea transplant using her own stem cells.feels a bit random. Is there any source describing this as an important moment for trachea transplantation? If so, could you expand on this a bit. Perhaps you could merge this with the short paragraph immediately above.
4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
5. It is stable.
6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
Overall:
Trachea 175.176.87.63 ( talk) 17:46, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
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I think that the best thing to do here would be to divide things up between Vertebrate trachea and Invertebrate trachea.
Just saying "insect" trachea (as i have in the past) is not fully correct, as insects are just one class within the arthropod phylum to be tracheate.Hello if you arte like 12 and under dont read this is doesnt make sense trustr me
There's also another invertebrate trachea, i believe in molluscs, that should be mentioned.
So the question is now... do we want two pages with a disambiguation page for "Trachea" or do we want to keep the two sections on one page?
I'm inclined to go with the disambiguation.
In that case, the merge should go ahead, with the vertebrate trachea page. james waters 20:24, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
To the insect statement could added "...where oxygen is absorbed into the body." -- azwaldo 19:42, 27 Dec 2003 (UTC)
what rings keep the trachea open? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.116.153.58 ( talk • contribs) 16:51, 19 September 2007
Your neck is the treaches air goes in and out!!!!!!!!!!!1 got ir get it good —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.48.247.143 ( talk) 21:51, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
There is no reason that these articles can't be displayed on the same page. Both are short, and the context provided by additional information will improve the quality and readability of both articles. Additionally, it's unnecessary to fragment these two articles, and this is not standard for the vast majority of articles, which harmoniously display human and other animal information on the same page. Therefore, I propose a merge LT910001 ( talk) 01:50, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
Same reason as stated above. LT910001 ( talk) 01:50, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
Support With sufficient division there should be no confusion. CFCF ( talk · contribs · email) 07:16, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
I think it should be noted in the article that the scientists managed to grow trachea into laboratory and they successfully implanted them into patient's bodies. WSJ, April 30, 2013 - Daily Mail, 8 July 2011. — Ark25 ( talk) 14:10, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
Stub hardly changed in nine years - better presented on target page Iztwoz ( talk) 07:44, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
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@ Tom (LT): Two minor things, I'll mark them up here so they don't get lost in the back-and-forth below:
In front of the lower trachea lies the manubrium of the sternum, the remnants of the thymus in adults, which has involuted over time, most quickly from pubertyI'm still not sure I understand this sentence. Are you trying to point out two separate structures: (1) the manubrium of the sternum, and (2) the remnants of the thymus (which involuted over time)? The way the sentence is worded now, it gives one the impression that the manubrium of the sternum IS the remnant of the thymus (i.e. it reads as if "the remnants of the thymus in adults" is an explanatory clause giving further detail about the manubrium). If the manubrium and the thymus remnants are two different things, then a well-placed "and" or "as well as" would make that sentence clearer.
Otherwise it looks great! I'm glad to see the article much-improved! I hope all is well on your end. Ajpolino ( talk) 18:15, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
1. It is reasonably well written.
This is the only complete tracheal ring, the others being incomplete rings of reinforcing cartilage.This sentence came as a bit of a surprise, since I didn't know why we were talking about rings. Perhaps it and the following sentence would make more sense to the uninitiated if you first introduced that the trachea's structure is provided by 16-22 rings, etc. Then tell me that the cricoid cartilage at the front end is the only complete ring.
The trachea develops in the second month of development.- Reads redundant "develops.. development." Any other word you could use?
with the isthmus of the gland overlying the second to fourth rings, with the lobes of the thyroid stretching to the level of the fifth or sixth cartilage.is a bit confusing to read ("with..., with..."). Can you rephrase somehow?
In front of the lower trachea lies the manubrium of the sternum, "manubrium" required me to take a quick trip to sternum. Not the end of the world, but would "top of the sternum" be not equally correct the sternum is formed from three structures (manubrium, body and xiphisternum)?
In front of the lower trachea lies the manubrium of the sternum, the remnants of the thymus in adultsat first glance I thought "the remnants of the thymus..." was an appositive explaining what the manubrium of the sternum was. Now I'm fairly certain it's a list of two items. Can you clarify the text?
Arteries that supply the trachea do in small branches that supply the trachea from the side.reads weird. Perhaps "do so in small..."?
they split into inferior and superior branchesI had to google what inferior and superior mean in anatomy. My personal preference, would be to reword or wikilink the first instances here to Anatomical_terms_of_location#Main_terms, but this is not a requirement for the review, and I'll leave the decision to you.
but also more variable in... site in relation to its surrounding structures.? Are there particular structures that are sometimes in different places in children? If this would require lengthy explanation, it would be nice, but not necessary for this review. If it's easily explained, that would help.
glandular, modified simple columnar epithelial...what does "modified simple" mean here?
The epiglottic vallecula is an important anatomical landmark for carrying out this procedure.I'm not sure what this means.
In particular, the right paratracheal stripe should be no greater than 4 mm from the right margin of the trachea."should be", or else you have a disease of the trachea? Or else you have a problem with your radiograph? Or else you're not looking at a human neck? Can you clarify?
2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
The trachea is surrounded by 16 - 22 rings of hyaline cartilage. The microanatomy subsection has
The trachea is surrounded by 16-20 rings of hyaline cartilage. They have the same cited source so I assume the disagreement (20 vs. 22) is just a typo?
Mounier-Kuhn syndrome is a very rare congenital disorder of an abnormally enlarged trachea.
3. It is broad in its coverage.
In 2008, a Colombian woman, Claudia Castillo (30), received a trachea transplant using her own stem cells.feels a bit random. Is there any source describing this as an important moment for trachea transplantation? If so, could you expand on this a bit. Perhaps you could merge this with the short paragraph immediately above.
4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
5. It is stable.
6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
Overall:
Trachea 175.176.87.63 ( talk) 17:46, 29 August 2022 (UTC)