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The size limitations this article mentions for townships are not entirely accurate. In New York, a lot of townships are larger than 54 square miles. On Long Island alone, I can think of several that exceed that size by a fair margin - Huntington, Brookhaven, Oyster Bay, Hempstead, Islip. 36 square miles may be the norm in areas surveyed under the township and range system, but I don't know that any other areas can be said to have a "norm" with regard to township size.
167.102.231.183 19:42, 13 June 2007 (UTC)Lloyd Spivak
I realize that the current links to
Survey township and
Civil township main articles makes no sense. In the future I intend to either expand those stubs or to adjust the links. If anybody would be intersted in helping to sort this out please send me an email or use my talk page. Thanks,
Lou I 20:57, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
"Range from 6 to 54 miles" ??? I live in the town of hempstead on long island, according to wikipedia, the TOH is 191.3 sq mi (495.5 km²). Town of Brookhaven (also on LI) is 531.5 sq mi (1,376.6 km²). I think the range should be changed. 69.122.197.26 ( talk) 16:06, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure this came from a Census Bureau document. I reverted changes that indicated that the entirety of Illinois belongs to a civil township, as that is not true. For example, Alexaner County does not have townships. And cities are not part of any civil township. older≠ wiser 18:00, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
I suggest confirming that Iowa, Michigan, New Jersey, Ohio, and Pennsylvania should be added to the list civil township states. I have been to township board meetings in these state. Mark Perry
Iowa's townships are still functional in most places. Also, Nevada and Utah have areas called townships that have a small degree of self rule, mostly in terms of land use planning. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.103.111.104 ( talk) 05:09, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
Iowa: Through an agreement between the State of Iowa and the Census Bureau, all townships are classified as nonfunctioning geographic subdivisions of the county and are not governments. Iowa townships can, and some do, perform a limited governmental function, but the township officials for the most part are administrative adjuncts of the county government.
I'm not that familiar with other states, but I know New Jersey, Michigan, and Pennsylvania all have civil townships, Michigan also having "Charter Townships", or townships that operate like cities. Where the distinctions come in are in how the governments operate. But they are all the same kind of administrative division, being one step below the county level and not part of any incorporated city (with the exception of New Hampshire, where the town (township) is the primary local government unit instead of the county). DCmacnut <> 14:04, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
To my surprise I didn't see anything in this article about Kentucky townships, as South Central Kentucky has several counties with these statistical areas. Barren County has several townships, such as Austin, KY. Many of the areas around here are unincorporated areas, such as Eighty-Eight, KY, but I'm not for sure how many of them are actually towns. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.115.85.22 ( talk) 04:59, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
This is unsourced. It is also probably wrong. I see KY is challenged above; on the other hand, townships do not exist in Maine, because Maine was always either part of MA or a State on its own; but the same should apply to West Virginia. Likewise, when were Louisiana, Texas, or Hawaii given survey townships? They were annexed as going concerns. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 20:49, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
Does anyone think that the concept of paper townships special to Ohio bears mention? -- Criticalthinker ( talk) 10:30, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
Hello from France : our article (about township) is a stub... I'll improve it soon : could someone tell me which is the biggest township in USA and also the most populated. I'd also know about the smallest and less populated township... If you have information or better, a link, i'd appreciate !! Thanks to all of you and a big french kiss
... sorry for my poor english.
Sg7438 (
talk)
10:05, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
These things don't exist in the U.S. South, and I have never been able to get a handle on exactly what they are. 'A hunk of a county with a town somehwere in it' is the best approximation my poor brain has been able to come up with. Is that close to reality?
The lead of the article should clarify that not all states have the divisions it describes, and that some states call them something else.
In particular, you have to get to the final section of the article ("Usage by state") to understand that not all states have townships, and that the terminology varies.
The article also makes the incorrect statement:
which makes it sound as though towns are subordinate to counties. In Massachusetts, at least, county government was abolished some years ago, and towns depend directly on the state. The county is just a grouping of towns. -- Macrakis ( talk) 15:00, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
[removed] Amelia Ohio 2603:6010:C200:D18:5DD5:3DB5:B75E:23 ( talk) 20:24, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
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The size limitations this article mentions for townships are not entirely accurate. In New York, a lot of townships are larger than 54 square miles. On Long Island alone, I can think of several that exceed that size by a fair margin - Huntington, Brookhaven, Oyster Bay, Hempstead, Islip. 36 square miles may be the norm in areas surveyed under the township and range system, but I don't know that any other areas can be said to have a "norm" with regard to township size.
167.102.231.183 19:42, 13 June 2007 (UTC)Lloyd Spivak
I realize that the current links to
Survey township and
Civil township main articles makes no sense. In the future I intend to either expand those stubs or to adjust the links. If anybody would be intersted in helping to sort this out please send me an email or use my talk page. Thanks,
Lou I 20:57, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
"Range from 6 to 54 miles" ??? I live in the town of hempstead on long island, according to wikipedia, the TOH is 191.3 sq mi (495.5 km²). Town of Brookhaven (also on LI) is 531.5 sq mi (1,376.6 km²). I think the range should be changed. 69.122.197.26 ( talk) 16:06, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure this came from a Census Bureau document. I reverted changes that indicated that the entirety of Illinois belongs to a civil township, as that is not true. For example, Alexaner County does not have townships. And cities are not part of any civil township. older≠ wiser 18:00, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
I suggest confirming that Iowa, Michigan, New Jersey, Ohio, and Pennsylvania should be added to the list civil township states. I have been to township board meetings in these state. Mark Perry
Iowa's townships are still functional in most places. Also, Nevada and Utah have areas called townships that have a small degree of self rule, mostly in terms of land use planning. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.103.111.104 ( talk) 05:09, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
Iowa: Through an agreement between the State of Iowa and the Census Bureau, all townships are classified as nonfunctioning geographic subdivisions of the county and are not governments. Iowa townships can, and some do, perform a limited governmental function, but the township officials for the most part are administrative adjuncts of the county government.
I'm not that familiar with other states, but I know New Jersey, Michigan, and Pennsylvania all have civil townships, Michigan also having "Charter Townships", or townships that operate like cities. Where the distinctions come in are in how the governments operate. But they are all the same kind of administrative division, being one step below the county level and not part of any incorporated city (with the exception of New Hampshire, where the town (township) is the primary local government unit instead of the county). DCmacnut <> 14:04, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
To my surprise I didn't see anything in this article about Kentucky townships, as South Central Kentucky has several counties with these statistical areas. Barren County has several townships, such as Austin, KY. Many of the areas around here are unincorporated areas, such as Eighty-Eight, KY, but I'm not for sure how many of them are actually towns. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.115.85.22 ( talk) 04:59, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
This is unsourced. It is also probably wrong. I see KY is challenged above; on the other hand, townships do not exist in Maine, because Maine was always either part of MA or a State on its own; but the same should apply to West Virginia. Likewise, when were Louisiana, Texas, or Hawaii given survey townships? They were annexed as going concerns. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 20:49, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
Does anyone think that the concept of paper townships special to Ohio bears mention? -- Criticalthinker ( talk) 10:30, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
Hello from France : our article (about township) is a stub... I'll improve it soon : could someone tell me which is the biggest township in USA and also the most populated. I'd also know about the smallest and less populated township... If you have information or better, a link, i'd appreciate !! Thanks to all of you and a big french kiss
... sorry for my poor english.
Sg7438 (
talk)
10:05, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
These things don't exist in the U.S. South, and I have never been able to get a handle on exactly what they are. 'A hunk of a county with a town somehwere in it' is the best approximation my poor brain has been able to come up with. Is that close to reality?
The lead of the article should clarify that not all states have the divisions it describes, and that some states call them something else.
In particular, you have to get to the final section of the article ("Usage by state") to understand that not all states have townships, and that the terminology varies.
The article also makes the incorrect statement:
which makes it sound as though towns are subordinate to counties. In Massachusetts, at least, county government was abolished some years ago, and towns depend directly on the state. The county is just a grouping of towns. -- Macrakis ( talk) 15:00, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
[removed] Amelia Ohio 2603:6010:C200:D18:5DD5:3DB5:B75E:23 ( talk) 20:24, 12 June 2023 (UTC)