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I'm having a bit of difficulty with the wording of this entry. While I understand how Tower City Center is a name that can be applied to the entire redevlopment, Terminal Tower is still Terminal Tower - one piece of the whole.
Wouldn't it more sense to introduce section headers that break out Terminal Tower (skyscraper) and then Tower City (entire complex)? user: stude62 talk:stude62 16:53, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I am going to put Terminal Tower into a separate article from Tower City Center because the two are not the same. (For those not familiar with Cleveland/ Tower City, the current way the article is set up would be as if Radio City Music Hall were listed as the same thing as Rockefeller Center.) My basis for this comes from the signage of the outside of the main entrance to Tower City on Public Square. Above the main doors, in large letters are the words "TOWER CITY CENTER," which names the entire complex. Then, to the left and right of the sets of doors is a list of the "elements" which make up the complex - Terminal Tower, The Avenue, MK Ferguson Plaza, Chase Financial Tower, Skylight Office Tower, Higbee Building, Ritz Carlton, Renaissance Cleveland Hotel, and RTA Rapid Transit Station. I think that the confusion comes from the fact that the complex was just renamed "Tower City" in the early 90s. But, also remember that the original name of the complex was not actually Terminal Tower to begin with, but instead "Cleveland Union Terminal." user: nick_krol 08 Nov 2005
Okay, I think I've got everything straight now. I had a look through Eric Johannesen's Cleveland Architecture, Clay Herrick's Cleveland Landmarks, and Holly Rarick's Progressive Vision, and they all seem to agree on the dates. - EurekaLott 23:53, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
Are there even 2,200 buildings in the entire downtown area? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.100.236.149 ( talk) 02:14, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
@ Cards84664: regarding the succession templates, I'm not seeking to "censor" anything. I simply don't see the point in redundant templates conveying the same information three times. There's one rail route here--the Erie. That it passed to the Erie Lackawanna and later Conrail is interesting but doesn't need to be in the infobox. Mackensen (talk) 22:47, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
I'm definitely in agreement with Mackensen here. The idea of these templates is to convey information to readers, not to list every single iteration of every service; if you can't clearly explain something in prose, how in the world could the reader understand it from a contextless template? Painesville is a perfect example of how not to use s-rail templates. Pi.1415926535 ( talk) 06:44, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
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I'm having a bit of difficulty with the wording of this entry. While I understand how Tower City Center is a name that can be applied to the entire redevlopment, Terminal Tower is still Terminal Tower - one piece of the whole.
Wouldn't it more sense to introduce section headers that break out Terminal Tower (skyscraper) and then Tower City (entire complex)? user: stude62 talk:stude62 16:53, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I am going to put Terminal Tower into a separate article from Tower City Center because the two are not the same. (For those not familiar with Cleveland/ Tower City, the current way the article is set up would be as if Radio City Music Hall were listed as the same thing as Rockefeller Center.) My basis for this comes from the signage of the outside of the main entrance to Tower City on Public Square. Above the main doors, in large letters are the words "TOWER CITY CENTER," which names the entire complex. Then, to the left and right of the sets of doors is a list of the "elements" which make up the complex - Terminal Tower, The Avenue, MK Ferguson Plaza, Chase Financial Tower, Skylight Office Tower, Higbee Building, Ritz Carlton, Renaissance Cleveland Hotel, and RTA Rapid Transit Station. I think that the confusion comes from the fact that the complex was just renamed "Tower City" in the early 90s. But, also remember that the original name of the complex was not actually Terminal Tower to begin with, but instead "Cleveland Union Terminal." user: nick_krol 08 Nov 2005
Okay, I think I've got everything straight now. I had a look through Eric Johannesen's Cleveland Architecture, Clay Herrick's Cleveland Landmarks, and Holly Rarick's Progressive Vision, and they all seem to agree on the dates. - EurekaLott 23:53, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
Are there even 2,200 buildings in the entire downtown area? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.100.236.149 ( talk) 02:14, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
@ Cards84664: regarding the succession templates, I'm not seeking to "censor" anything. I simply don't see the point in redundant templates conveying the same information three times. There's one rail route here--the Erie. That it passed to the Erie Lackawanna and later Conrail is interesting but doesn't need to be in the infobox. Mackensen (talk) 22:47, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
I'm definitely in agreement with Mackensen here. The idea of these templates is to convey information to readers, not to list every single iteration of every service; if you can't clearly explain something in prose, how in the world could the reader understand it from a contextless template? Painesville is a perfect example of how not to use s-rail templates. Pi.1415926535 ( talk) 06:44, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
New York Central Railroad | ||||
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toward
Chicago | Main Line | toward
New York |
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Closed 1961 toward
Chicago | Closed 1962 toward
New York |
New York Central Railroad | ||||
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toward
Chicago | Main Line | toward
New York |
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Closed 1961 toward
Chicago |
New York Central Railroad (Until 1968) | ||||
Closed 1971 toward
Chicago | Main Line | Closed 1962 toward
New York |
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Closed 1962 toward
Chicago |