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The distinction of being the first congregation in North America belongs to the Congregation of Shearith Israel who arrived in the United States in 1654, 4 years before the congregation of the Touro Synagogue. In addition, Shearith Israel's first constructed synagogue was built on Mill Street in 1730, again before the Touro Synagogue. Info on Shearith Israel can be found here: http://www.shearith-israel.org/folder/learning_history_new.html. This change will also affect other articles such as "Jews living in the United States".
The similarity between a paragraph in the intro section and the text on the synagogue Web site makes it clear that this was minimally rewritten before posted to Wikipedia, with words and phrases replaced with synonyms. This sort of rewrite does not avoid the claim of plagiarism, and the offending text should be fixed.
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From [1]:
S. Ugarte 22:45, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi S. Ugarte. I am not sure if you refer to my own edits, or not. While I respect your opinion I disagree that the text are sufficiently similar in structure to constitute plagiarism. In editing Wikipedia there is no implication of new research. I wonder why, assuming you found time to compare texts and author several opinions here, that you did not invest that time in rewriting it to satisfy your concern?
CApitol3 17:21, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Deep breaths, and maybe a nice cup of tea. We'll get thorugh this with noone getting hurt. CApitol3 19:37, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
I am in contact with a professional voice actor who is trying to record a spoken version of George Washington and he wants to hear someone pronounce "Touro Synagogue". If anyone would be willing to call him up or even leave a voice mail with the proper pronunciation, please email me and I will send you his contact info. Thanks. howcheng { chat} 18:08, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
"A legend exists that the trap door under the tebáh (bimah) was used while the synagogue was a stop on the Underground Railroad. This is unfounded."
Does that mean that a) the synagogue was used as a stop but the trapdoor was not, or b) the synagogue was not used as a stop? DS ( talk) 17:44, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
The Benjamin Howland link points to the US Senator from Tiverton, RI, not to the Newport artist. Are these the same people? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.6.52.96 ( talk) 04:17, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
Under Ownership controversy, we say, put up for sale ceremonial bells, called rimonim The link points to an article that appears unrelated to bells. Could somebody familiar with this subject matter take a look? -- RoySmith (talk) 16:55, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
The statement about rimonim/bells is true. After reading from a sefer torah, 1) first lift the sefer torah to show its text to the congregation (hagbah) and then 2)you roll is back up and "dress" it (gelilah). Part of the "dressing" procedure if a congregation is wealthy enough are various silver ornaments. Usually these are the choshen, which literally means a breastplate, which in reality is a silver chain with a silver decorated plate, sometimes with gemstones, and a pair of rimonim, literally pomegranates, but which are silver finales that go on top of the torah's wood scroll handled. They often actually do look like a pomegranate in terms of shape and most (but not all) pairs of rimonim I've seen have tiny silver bells as part of the decorations, so much so that rimonim Is typically translated as bells.
Same anon person.
It should link here within Wikipedia. Apparently it's stuck under sefer torah https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sefer_Torah#External_decorations Not sure how to do that — Preceding unsigned comment added by 8.36.226.250 ( talk) 03:28, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
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The distinction of being the first congregation in North America belongs to the Congregation of Shearith Israel who arrived in the United States in 1654, 4 years before the congregation of the Touro Synagogue. In addition, Shearith Israel's first constructed synagogue was built on Mill Street in 1730, again before the Touro Synagogue. Info on Shearith Israel can be found here: http://www.shearith-israel.org/folder/learning_history_new.html. This change will also affect other articles such as "Jews living in the United States".
The similarity between a paragraph in the intro section and the text on the synagogue Web site makes it clear that this was minimally rewritten before posted to Wikipedia, with words and phrases replaced with synonyms. This sort of rewrite does not avoid the claim of plagiarism, and the offending text should be fixed.
From Wikipedia:
From [1]:
S. Ugarte 22:45, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi S. Ugarte. I am not sure if you refer to my own edits, or not. While I respect your opinion I disagree that the text are sufficiently similar in structure to constitute plagiarism. In editing Wikipedia there is no implication of new research. I wonder why, assuming you found time to compare texts and author several opinions here, that you did not invest that time in rewriting it to satisfy your concern?
CApitol3 17:21, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Deep breaths, and maybe a nice cup of tea. We'll get thorugh this with noone getting hurt. CApitol3 19:37, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
I am in contact with a professional voice actor who is trying to record a spoken version of George Washington and he wants to hear someone pronounce "Touro Synagogue". If anyone would be willing to call him up or even leave a voice mail with the proper pronunciation, please email me and I will send you his contact info. Thanks. howcheng { chat} 18:08, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
"A legend exists that the trap door under the tebáh (bimah) was used while the synagogue was a stop on the Underground Railroad. This is unfounded."
Does that mean that a) the synagogue was used as a stop but the trapdoor was not, or b) the synagogue was not used as a stop? DS ( talk) 17:44, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
The Benjamin Howland link points to the US Senator from Tiverton, RI, not to the Newport artist. Are these the same people? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.6.52.96 ( talk) 04:17, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
Under Ownership controversy, we say, put up for sale ceremonial bells, called rimonim The link points to an article that appears unrelated to bells. Could somebody familiar with this subject matter take a look? -- RoySmith (talk) 16:55, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
The statement about rimonim/bells is true. After reading from a sefer torah, 1) first lift the sefer torah to show its text to the congregation (hagbah) and then 2)you roll is back up and "dress" it (gelilah). Part of the "dressing" procedure if a congregation is wealthy enough are various silver ornaments. Usually these are the choshen, which literally means a breastplate, which in reality is a silver chain with a silver decorated plate, sometimes with gemstones, and a pair of rimonim, literally pomegranates, but which are silver finales that go on top of the torah's wood scroll handled. They often actually do look like a pomegranate in terms of shape and most (but not all) pairs of rimonim I've seen have tiny silver bells as part of the decorations, so much so that rimonim Is typically translated as bells.
Same anon person.
It should link here within Wikipedia. Apparently it's stuck under sefer torah https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sefer_Torah#External_decorations Not sure how to do that — Preceding unsigned comment added by 8.36.226.250 ( talk) 03:28, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
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