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See the Page Section #Requested move from Touch football (rugby league) to Touch rugby (FIT)
I have corrected a number of errors in the rules on this page, although there are still a number of poorly stated phrases that need correcting. For example a "change of possession" is a technical term which doesn't merely mean that the team with possession of the ball changes, but that the team with the ball has to give it to the opposition who then have a role ball at count 0. Intercepts and scores do not result in a "change of possession." The errors I have fixed are as follows;
It is not a penalty if the acting half takes to long to pick up the ball. The referee just calls play on. Acting half trying to score is also a change of possession. Defenders need to go back the distance the referee says after a touch, which is not "5 meters" but "at least 5 meters." Especially at high level games that distance is typically further than 5 meters - usually about 7. It's also a penalty if a defending player does not retreat in a straight line. Substitutes must enter the field in an onside position (if there is a sub box and it is offside, they must run along the side line until they are onside). It's not true that placing the ball on the ground is the only way to score, a referee awards a penalty score if the defending team gives away a penalty over the scoring line. For example, holding attackers after the half has crossed the line.
I also noted that the 2 scores for girls in mixed games by-law that some local comps apparently use is not in the official rule book, and I've never heard of it, having played touch football at a national level for 11 years, and in 7 different local competitions in three states in Australia. That whole paragraph should probably be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.133.39 ( talk) 04:45, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
To say that this article does not represent a worldwide view the subject is incorrect. A quick read-through will reveal that it does actually contain a large amount of relevent worldwide content. The majority of sections on this page are considered general information as they apply WORLDWIDE and not just to Australia. For this reason, amongst others, I recommend that the Wikify notice be removed. kerrodhall 19:10, 16 February 2008 (GMT+10)
Previous touch rugby article was useless, content merged with touch football (rugby league). Touch football (rugby league) title is confusing and leads to other touch rugby articles describing the same sport or close variants that never deserve their own article due to little information. POds 07:11, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
POLL CLOSED There was no consensus to move Touch football (rugby league) to Touch rugby -- PBS 17:23, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
Previously this page consisted of an article that tried to distinguish its self from touch football (rugby league). It did not do this, there was no distinction. No new information. No reason for an article. Touch rugby should be THE home of touch rugby, which clearly this sport is, as thousands of people around the world will testify.
Also, this page should not just try to document rules that are governed by the FIT. It should document the most common variants. Perhaps a specific FIT article could be written. However most information already here, including the rules is what people think of when they say or here "touch rugby". Thus that information is most relevant here.
touchrugby.com refers to the sport mentioned in touch football (rugby league). World wide use of the name Touch rugby is a very good reason to have this moved to Touch rugby. POds 07:58, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
A distinction needs to be made between actual Touch Football http://www.internationaltouch.com.au/ and what appears to be a muck around game "A common time for it to be played is as an end of training session on the day before an important rugby game, to reduce to a minimum the chances of an accidental injury"
Good on 131.244.3.45 for fixing this up.
I have moved this article from Touch Rugby to this name because for many people Touch rugby is what is described above. After the edits made by user:131.244.3.45 06:31, 9 Mar 2005 the article had become exclusivly about FIT so it is better that it has it's own article. PBS 09:44, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
Gee i hate this touch football stuff. This article's title, should not have in brakets (rugby league). It should, as it does, mention that it was derived from rugby league. We dont put "rugby" or "rugby union" in brakets after the rugby league's title, so why here? Hmm.. I'm going to brain storm about this for a while i think.
BTW, rugby = rugby union, league = rugby league, touch = touch football. -- Paul 12:36, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
I oppose this move because before the current messing around there were two articles. One about the game played under FIT and one for the less condefied versions played by both codes but particlularly union. Originally there was one article but it got overwritten in a slimilar way to that which is being done now. At 09:28, 17 May 2005 I moved the information which was specifically about the FIT game into Federation of International Touch (rugby) and left the rest of the article under Touch Rugby This remain largly in place until the 5th of September [3]. So your explanation only covers the state of the pages in the last few days. I don't think a merge is a good idea, for example the page you intend to move to Touch Rugby has at the begining of the history section "Touch started in Australia as a social park game and as a training technique" FIT did but touch rugby did not stat in Australia as a social park game. I think it cleaner to leave one article to cover fit and another for the versious other version. Where in the article that you are proposing to move are the mentions of the RFU and "its junior development program" which were in the article before? PBS 17:11, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
The history of the Federation of International Touch (rugby) page records: 13:16, 9 July 2005 Grant65 (Federation of International Touch (rugby) moved to Touch football (rugby league): Previous title referred only to the governing body.) I think this page should be moved to back to Federation of International Touch (rugby) or Federation of International Touch as it can then concentrate on the FIT game and not have to include stuff on other forms of touch rugby. PBS 17:29, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
Touch Rugby has been played for generation of Rugby players (both codes) as a means of training without physical contact. That you do not know this is surprising. But just to prove the point see the mention of the RFU and the games they organised for their children's game. PBS 08:11, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
Here is an example I found via Google which is a Union site which explicitly mentions a Touch Rugby competition with different rules from FIT: http://www.wru.co.uk/114_3798.php WRU. 12 players per team PBS 08:32, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
Before the advent of slow motion video the best way to remove foul play from the professional sport of Rugby was to remove rucks and mauls. If it had not been for the magic of TV than when Rugby Union became a professional game they would have had to follow League in this area. In the same way if you are going to derive a game of Touch Rugby from Rugby then you are bound to end up with rules similar to FIT. But that does not mean that all touch Rugby is played under FIT rules, just that a none contact version of the sport is bound to end up with similar limitations. For example it is obvious that if one includes a number of restarts after a tag then league is the model to use for that part of the game. Where I played Rugby union we always played that the tag had to be below the waist (it was after all training for Rugby union) and because the forwards liked it (sigh!) we also often allowed a 3 man set scrum as well (like sevens) but with a different offside rule so that the opposing scrum half could not easily tag the other. Now I have no idea how widespread those rules were played, but this is the way it way played at both school and clubs I played in my area and at the time I was playing.
When we had one page all that happened was that some people edited the page to be only FIT. Compare Revision as of 09:29, 15 February 2005 with Revision as of 06:31, 9 March 2005 after "131.244.3.45 (Complete revision based on the aus.sport.touch newsgroup FAQ)" Which is why I split them. FIT is large enough to have an article in its own right while the other versions (such as they are) can be lumped together on an introduction page. I do not think they should be combined because experience suggests that it does not work and in fairness to FIT it does muddy up that article.
I do not think we should document the Welsh page I found. I only did that to show that there are other versions of Tag Rugby, but because it is uncodified any particular set of rules in ephemeral (hence the point about agreeing rules before play). FIT is very different because it is a formal body with fixed rules which can be read. This is just the same as sevens which started out as a muck about game (often if one team failed to turn up with 15 players as can happen in an armature game!) but it now has a formal set of rules and a governing body.
As you have seen, I have, over the last couple of days restored the Touch Rugby page and changed it so it is not a Rugby Union page. Which is clearly silly as the two codes play a very similar game of touch rugby. So we do not seem to be a million miles apart, if you wish to add a paragraph emphasising that FIT is the major version of the game which is growing in popularity I certainly would not object to that. But I do not want FIT to dominate the page as it has a page of its own and some people do not seem able to comprehend that Touch Rugby and FIT rules Touch Rugby Football are not exactly the same thing. As an example as I mentioned before: it is just nonsense to say all "Touch [Rugby] started in Australia as a social park game and as a training technique". PBS 11:48, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
There are two variations of Touch Rugby that can be played “1 Touch” or “6 Down”.
1 Touch” is South Africa’s traditional form of Touch Rugby.
6 Down” is the international version of the sport.
Talk:Touch rugby Goldensun 12:15, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
Before voting on the above. Why dont some people google for information. On to my 5th page and i've only found one touch rugby, the one played by most if not all of the world. Google Touch rugby. Every page that talks about touch rugby talks about the FIT rules. Simple... why cant people see this is called touch rugby right around the world. The game is touch rugby. POds 02:29, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
Thre are several other searches which can be done
Using "non-contact/touch rugby" which is a term used by the RFU it threw up amoung others Austin Youth Rugby Club Youth Rugby - Non Contact Touch Rugby with a link to the the USA Rugby - Youth Laws for 1997. Here is on for the RFU For season 2002/2003: see section NON-CONTACT MINI RUGBY UNDER 8. -- PBS 13:33, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
I translate myself from the french rules so why they stay here if this aticle still named Touch football (rugby league) and no FIT. I really don't understand you! Goldensun 10:08, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
Hello i'm a french player, in my country our sport is calling touch rugby. I work on wikipedia did you know that encyclopedia. We have a problem to name our sport and of course to name the article: Touch rugby, touch football (rugby league).
The principal argument of the touch football (rugby league) is the sport created in australia and in australia you call that sport touch football
You can see the discution on: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Touch_rugby for touch rugby http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Touch_football_%28rugby_league%29 for touch football (rugby league)
Can you help us please(sorry for my english) Quentin Goldensun 18:31, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
How about moving to touch rugby (FIT)? Just a thought..... Grinner 12:36, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
Touch was invented in north-eastern Australia, which still has most of the players and followers. "Football" in those parts means rugby league. "Rugby" in those parts means rugby union. So we need the "(rugby league)" in the name to distinguish it from rugby union-based touch games and from touch football (American). Grant65 (Talk) 13:26, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it to be moved. Ryan Norton T | @ | C 01:06, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
Make suggestions here so we can all have a look at the various options. In the discussion area, list the numbers which you like, including your own. Ohh yer, add your suggestions to the bottom to maintain the order!
I like 1&4&5 Goldensun 19:16, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
Rather than having two discussions on this, as the merger templates point to two different talk pages, please place comments on this suggestion under Talk:Touch rugby#Proposed merge with Touch football (rugby league) -- PBS 16:40, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
From my talk page:
Max ( 213.140.17.109) allegedly President of Touch Rugby Italia (email validation has been requested), with this edit Revision as of 16:46, 22 July 2008 by 213.140.17.109 ( talk) removed " Lega Italiana Touch Rugby" and 85.18.14.19 restored it with this edit Revision as of 15:44, 23 July 2008 85.18.14.19 ( talk).
Federation of International Touch Member Nations does not have an entry for Italy. But Italy does have a ranking. So what do other editors think we should do? -- PBS ( talk) 12:30, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
I have received an email from Massimiliano Natale in response to one I sent to the contact email address on the www.touchrugbyitalia.it. His email includes a link to this URL http://www.touchrugbyitalia.it/sections/none_Documenti_pdf/FIT%20-%20Riconoscimento.pdf that indicates that http://www.touchrugbyitalia.it/ is the website of the "official organisation representing the sport of Touch in Italy." Given this information I will remove the link to http://www.litrugby.it/. If any representatives of Lega Italiana Touch Rugby wish to re-instate their link then please discuss it on this talk page and reach a consensus before doing so. -- PBS ( talk) 13:26, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Okay I've just come across this discussion and it seems there is was no consensus on the Title in 2006. The current Touch football (rugby league) is extremely confusing. I have read all of the discussion and it seems there were no objections to Touch (sport). The FIT website calls the sport 'Touch'. Can we have a vote and majority decides on the title? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.220.40.86 ( talk) 11:43, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
So how does Wikipedia work - who has therefore 'decided' on the current title. This is meant to be an article about a sport run by the FIT and the FIT calls this sport 'Touch'. There is a relation to football as there is some colloquial (but not official) usage of that term. there is a relation to rugby league in the history of how the game developed but therefore it is also related to english farmers kicking vikings' heads around in the middle ages. I don't see why 'football' or 'rugby league' in the title help explain what the article is meant to be about ie Touch (the sport run by the FIT). Can there be a disambiguation page for 'Touch' that separates the sense of touch from the sport of touch. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.220.40.86 ( talk) 15:33, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
According to the FIT website "The name of the game changed officially in 1981 (dropping the word “Football”) and a formal set of Touch playing rules was developed and issued the same year." So the official name is not touch football. It also states the ball size in dimensions it does not mention that the ball must be a rugby league ball. Finally it states that the sport has "a history in Rugby league and Rugby Union". So all your references to Rugby League only seem to be an unbalanced picture. I'm happy to see references that show otherwise. Here is the FIT official link http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?client=14-4863-0-0-0&sID=61690&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=14726332§ionID=61690 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.220.40.86 ( talk) 18:07, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Because of reasons discussed above, I would like to request that this page be moved to Touch (sport). The official name of the sport, according to its governing body is, after all, Touch. Also, the majority of previous discussions have been about the suggested title Touch Rugby. Only one brief discussion mentioned the title I am now suggesting, and not a formal request. It's a title that would prove much less confusing than the current one, and is also the name recognised by the official governing body. If anyone can give reasons other than these that it should not be changed, please let them be known. -- 118.68.162.192 ( talk) 12:43, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
Below list was removed from the article. Please review Wikipedia:External links and work out what needs to happen to make the encyclopaedic article not appear to be one long directory listing. — billinghurst sDrewth 15:20, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
The Touch football (rugby league) article states "...in 1978 when the Sydney Metropolitan Touch Football side played the touring Great Britain national rugby league team in a high-scoring match", is there a reference for this? Best Regards. DynamoDegsy ( talk) 13:18, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
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See the Page Section #Requested move from Touch football (rugby league) to Touch rugby (FIT)
I have corrected a number of errors in the rules on this page, although there are still a number of poorly stated phrases that need correcting. For example a "change of possession" is a technical term which doesn't merely mean that the team with possession of the ball changes, but that the team with the ball has to give it to the opposition who then have a role ball at count 0. Intercepts and scores do not result in a "change of possession." The errors I have fixed are as follows;
It is not a penalty if the acting half takes to long to pick up the ball. The referee just calls play on. Acting half trying to score is also a change of possession. Defenders need to go back the distance the referee says after a touch, which is not "5 meters" but "at least 5 meters." Especially at high level games that distance is typically further than 5 meters - usually about 7. It's also a penalty if a defending player does not retreat in a straight line. Substitutes must enter the field in an onside position (if there is a sub box and it is offside, they must run along the side line until they are onside). It's not true that placing the ball on the ground is the only way to score, a referee awards a penalty score if the defending team gives away a penalty over the scoring line. For example, holding attackers after the half has crossed the line.
I also noted that the 2 scores for girls in mixed games by-law that some local comps apparently use is not in the official rule book, and I've never heard of it, having played touch football at a national level for 11 years, and in 7 different local competitions in three states in Australia. That whole paragraph should probably be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.133.39 ( talk) 04:45, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
To say that this article does not represent a worldwide view the subject is incorrect. A quick read-through will reveal that it does actually contain a large amount of relevent worldwide content. The majority of sections on this page are considered general information as they apply WORLDWIDE and not just to Australia. For this reason, amongst others, I recommend that the Wikify notice be removed. kerrodhall 19:10, 16 February 2008 (GMT+10)
Previous touch rugby article was useless, content merged with touch football (rugby league). Touch football (rugby league) title is confusing and leads to other touch rugby articles describing the same sport or close variants that never deserve their own article due to little information. POds 07:11, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
POLL CLOSED There was no consensus to move Touch football (rugby league) to Touch rugby -- PBS 17:23, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
Previously this page consisted of an article that tried to distinguish its self from touch football (rugby league). It did not do this, there was no distinction. No new information. No reason for an article. Touch rugby should be THE home of touch rugby, which clearly this sport is, as thousands of people around the world will testify.
Also, this page should not just try to document rules that are governed by the FIT. It should document the most common variants. Perhaps a specific FIT article could be written. However most information already here, including the rules is what people think of when they say or here "touch rugby". Thus that information is most relevant here.
touchrugby.com refers to the sport mentioned in touch football (rugby league). World wide use of the name Touch rugby is a very good reason to have this moved to Touch rugby. POds 07:58, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
A distinction needs to be made between actual Touch Football http://www.internationaltouch.com.au/ and what appears to be a muck around game "A common time for it to be played is as an end of training session on the day before an important rugby game, to reduce to a minimum the chances of an accidental injury"
Good on 131.244.3.45 for fixing this up.
I have moved this article from Touch Rugby to this name because for many people Touch rugby is what is described above. After the edits made by user:131.244.3.45 06:31, 9 Mar 2005 the article had become exclusivly about FIT so it is better that it has it's own article. PBS 09:44, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
Gee i hate this touch football stuff. This article's title, should not have in brakets (rugby league). It should, as it does, mention that it was derived from rugby league. We dont put "rugby" or "rugby union" in brakets after the rugby league's title, so why here? Hmm.. I'm going to brain storm about this for a while i think.
BTW, rugby = rugby union, league = rugby league, touch = touch football. -- Paul 12:36, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
I oppose this move because before the current messing around there were two articles. One about the game played under FIT and one for the less condefied versions played by both codes but particlularly union. Originally there was one article but it got overwritten in a slimilar way to that which is being done now. At 09:28, 17 May 2005 I moved the information which was specifically about the FIT game into Federation of International Touch (rugby) and left the rest of the article under Touch Rugby This remain largly in place until the 5th of September [3]. So your explanation only covers the state of the pages in the last few days. I don't think a merge is a good idea, for example the page you intend to move to Touch Rugby has at the begining of the history section "Touch started in Australia as a social park game and as a training technique" FIT did but touch rugby did not stat in Australia as a social park game. I think it cleaner to leave one article to cover fit and another for the versious other version. Where in the article that you are proposing to move are the mentions of the RFU and "its junior development program" which were in the article before? PBS 17:11, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
The history of the Federation of International Touch (rugby) page records: 13:16, 9 July 2005 Grant65 (Federation of International Touch (rugby) moved to Touch football (rugby league): Previous title referred only to the governing body.) I think this page should be moved to back to Federation of International Touch (rugby) or Federation of International Touch as it can then concentrate on the FIT game and not have to include stuff on other forms of touch rugby. PBS 17:29, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
Touch Rugby has been played for generation of Rugby players (both codes) as a means of training without physical contact. That you do not know this is surprising. But just to prove the point see the mention of the RFU and the games they organised for their children's game. PBS 08:11, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
Here is an example I found via Google which is a Union site which explicitly mentions a Touch Rugby competition with different rules from FIT: http://www.wru.co.uk/114_3798.php WRU. 12 players per team PBS 08:32, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
Before the advent of slow motion video the best way to remove foul play from the professional sport of Rugby was to remove rucks and mauls. If it had not been for the magic of TV than when Rugby Union became a professional game they would have had to follow League in this area. In the same way if you are going to derive a game of Touch Rugby from Rugby then you are bound to end up with rules similar to FIT. But that does not mean that all touch Rugby is played under FIT rules, just that a none contact version of the sport is bound to end up with similar limitations. For example it is obvious that if one includes a number of restarts after a tag then league is the model to use for that part of the game. Where I played Rugby union we always played that the tag had to be below the waist (it was after all training for Rugby union) and because the forwards liked it (sigh!) we also often allowed a 3 man set scrum as well (like sevens) but with a different offside rule so that the opposing scrum half could not easily tag the other. Now I have no idea how widespread those rules were played, but this is the way it way played at both school and clubs I played in my area and at the time I was playing.
When we had one page all that happened was that some people edited the page to be only FIT. Compare Revision as of 09:29, 15 February 2005 with Revision as of 06:31, 9 March 2005 after "131.244.3.45 (Complete revision based on the aus.sport.touch newsgroup FAQ)" Which is why I split them. FIT is large enough to have an article in its own right while the other versions (such as they are) can be lumped together on an introduction page. I do not think they should be combined because experience suggests that it does not work and in fairness to FIT it does muddy up that article.
I do not think we should document the Welsh page I found. I only did that to show that there are other versions of Tag Rugby, but because it is uncodified any particular set of rules in ephemeral (hence the point about agreeing rules before play). FIT is very different because it is a formal body with fixed rules which can be read. This is just the same as sevens which started out as a muck about game (often if one team failed to turn up with 15 players as can happen in an armature game!) but it now has a formal set of rules and a governing body.
As you have seen, I have, over the last couple of days restored the Touch Rugby page and changed it so it is not a Rugby Union page. Which is clearly silly as the two codes play a very similar game of touch rugby. So we do not seem to be a million miles apart, if you wish to add a paragraph emphasising that FIT is the major version of the game which is growing in popularity I certainly would not object to that. But I do not want FIT to dominate the page as it has a page of its own and some people do not seem able to comprehend that Touch Rugby and FIT rules Touch Rugby Football are not exactly the same thing. As an example as I mentioned before: it is just nonsense to say all "Touch [Rugby] started in Australia as a social park game and as a training technique". PBS 11:48, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
There are two variations of Touch Rugby that can be played “1 Touch” or “6 Down”.
1 Touch” is South Africa’s traditional form of Touch Rugby.
6 Down” is the international version of the sport.
Talk:Touch rugby Goldensun 12:15, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
Before voting on the above. Why dont some people google for information. On to my 5th page and i've only found one touch rugby, the one played by most if not all of the world. Google Touch rugby. Every page that talks about touch rugby talks about the FIT rules. Simple... why cant people see this is called touch rugby right around the world. The game is touch rugby. POds 02:29, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
Thre are several other searches which can be done
Using "non-contact/touch rugby" which is a term used by the RFU it threw up amoung others Austin Youth Rugby Club Youth Rugby - Non Contact Touch Rugby with a link to the the USA Rugby - Youth Laws for 1997. Here is on for the RFU For season 2002/2003: see section NON-CONTACT MINI RUGBY UNDER 8. -- PBS 13:33, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
I translate myself from the french rules so why they stay here if this aticle still named Touch football (rugby league) and no FIT. I really don't understand you! Goldensun 10:08, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
Hello i'm a french player, in my country our sport is calling touch rugby. I work on wikipedia did you know that encyclopedia. We have a problem to name our sport and of course to name the article: Touch rugby, touch football (rugby league).
The principal argument of the touch football (rugby league) is the sport created in australia and in australia you call that sport touch football
You can see the discution on: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Touch_rugby for touch rugby http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Touch_football_%28rugby_league%29 for touch football (rugby league)
Can you help us please(sorry for my english) Quentin Goldensun 18:31, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
How about moving to touch rugby (FIT)? Just a thought..... Grinner 12:36, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
Touch was invented in north-eastern Australia, which still has most of the players and followers. "Football" in those parts means rugby league. "Rugby" in those parts means rugby union. So we need the "(rugby league)" in the name to distinguish it from rugby union-based touch games and from touch football (American). Grant65 (Talk) 13:26, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it to be moved. Ryan Norton T | @ | C 01:06, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
Make suggestions here so we can all have a look at the various options. In the discussion area, list the numbers which you like, including your own. Ohh yer, add your suggestions to the bottom to maintain the order!
I like 1&4&5 Goldensun 19:16, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
Rather than having two discussions on this, as the merger templates point to two different talk pages, please place comments on this suggestion under Talk:Touch rugby#Proposed merge with Touch football (rugby league) -- PBS 16:40, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
From my talk page:
Max ( 213.140.17.109) allegedly President of Touch Rugby Italia (email validation has been requested), with this edit Revision as of 16:46, 22 July 2008 by 213.140.17.109 ( talk) removed " Lega Italiana Touch Rugby" and 85.18.14.19 restored it with this edit Revision as of 15:44, 23 July 2008 85.18.14.19 ( talk).
Federation of International Touch Member Nations does not have an entry for Italy. But Italy does have a ranking. So what do other editors think we should do? -- PBS ( talk) 12:30, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
I have received an email from Massimiliano Natale in response to one I sent to the contact email address on the www.touchrugbyitalia.it. His email includes a link to this URL http://www.touchrugbyitalia.it/sections/none_Documenti_pdf/FIT%20-%20Riconoscimento.pdf that indicates that http://www.touchrugbyitalia.it/ is the website of the "official organisation representing the sport of Touch in Italy." Given this information I will remove the link to http://www.litrugby.it/. If any representatives of Lega Italiana Touch Rugby wish to re-instate their link then please discuss it on this talk page and reach a consensus before doing so. -- PBS ( talk) 13:26, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Okay I've just come across this discussion and it seems there is was no consensus on the Title in 2006. The current Touch football (rugby league) is extremely confusing. I have read all of the discussion and it seems there were no objections to Touch (sport). The FIT website calls the sport 'Touch'. Can we have a vote and majority decides on the title? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.220.40.86 ( talk) 11:43, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
So how does Wikipedia work - who has therefore 'decided' on the current title. This is meant to be an article about a sport run by the FIT and the FIT calls this sport 'Touch'. There is a relation to football as there is some colloquial (but not official) usage of that term. there is a relation to rugby league in the history of how the game developed but therefore it is also related to english farmers kicking vikings' heads around in the middle ages. I don't see why 'football' or 'rugby league' in the title help explain what the article is meant to be about ie Touch (the sport run by the FIT). Can there be a disambiguation page for 'Touch' that separates the sense of touch from the sport of touch. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.220.40.86 ( talk) 15:33, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
According to the FIT website "The name of the game changed officially in 1981 (dropping the word “Football”) and a formal set of Touch playing rules was developed and issued the same year." So the official name is not touch football. It also states the ball size in dimensions it does not mention that the ball must be a rugby league ball. Finally it states that the sport has "a history in Rugby league and Rugby Union". So all your references to Rugby League only seem to be an unbalanced picture. I'm happy to see references that show otherwise. Here is the FIT official link http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?client=14-4863-0-0-0&sID=61690&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=14726332§ionID=61690 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.220.40.86 ( talk) 18:07, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Because of reasons discussed above, I would like to request that this page be moved to Touch (sport). The official name of the sport, according to its governing body is, after all, Touch. Also, the majority of previous discussions have been about the suggested title Touch Rugby. Only one brief discussion mentioned the title I am now suggesting, and not a formal request. It's a title that would prove much less confusing than the current one, and is also the name recognised by the official governing body. If anyone can give reasons other than these that it should not be changed, please let them be known. -- 118.68.162.192 ( talk) 12:43, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
Below list was removed from the article. Please review Wikipedia:External links and work out what needs to happen to make the encyclopaedic article not appear to be one long directory listing. — billinghurst sDrewth 15:20, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
The Touch football (rugby league) article states "...in 1978 when the Sydney Metropolitan Touch Football side played the touring Great Britain national rugby league team in a high-scoring match", is there a reference for this? Best Regards. DynamoDegsy ( talk) 13:18, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
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