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Has anyone noticed this? http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Tortoiseshell-cat 71.145.134.12 ( talk) Has anyone noticed that the picture on this page is not of a tortoiseshell cat but a calico cat?
Yes, I did and it irritated me. I have a tortoiseshell cat. I'll take a picture of her and post it later. B 16:13, 2 Oct 2003 (UTC)
"Tortoiseshell cat" should not have been merged with "Tortoiseshell". There are other "tortoiseshell" animals and meanings to "tortoiseshell" besides only "Tortoiseshell cat". The material in "Tortoiseshell" should have been moved to "Tortoiseshell cat" and a more general article written about "Tortoiseshell". — B| Talk 13:21, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
p.s. I got confused--brought this up at the cat article page instead of the Wikiproject talk page, which I can't find just at the moment. Sorry. Quill
I suggest redirecting [[Calico]], [[Calico cat]], [[Tortoiseshell and white]] and [[Tortoiseshell and white cat]] to [[Tortoiseshell cat]]. — B| Talk 13:14, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
I took a picture of my tortoiseshell cat and would like to put it in the gallery, but I see there has been some controversy over the amount of photos. I think four tortoiseshell photos is just the right amount, yes, but I believe my picture illustrates tortoiseshell better than this picture does. That picture seems to have a lot of just plain black, and tortoiseshells generally have a lot more colors. Can I have the go ahead to replace the picture? I don't want to do it without confirmation that it's okay.
(P.S. Also, what's with all the unformatted talk at the top of the page? o.0)
Isn't torbie a specific type of tabby pattern? Quill 23:38, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Aren't the shells of tortoises usually brown and isn't calico a cotton material. The article hasn't answered the one thing I wanted to know. Where these odd cat terms come from.
When you look at the page history of the article you can see that it was becoming quite untidy by 00:42 17 March. For the sake of article unity I thought it better to reformat the photos in "gallery" format, I know we all love to see our "darlings" in as good an appearance as possible, but when the images were appearing all over the place it didn't give that good over-all impression. So I hope you don't mind too much that I have taken this step. After all, it is a Wikipedia article the quality of which should guide us more than individual additions to the article. Dieter Simon 22:21, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Only problem is some of the images will not show up in the gallery tag. I added an old-style gallery beneath that one and moved the pictures that were not showing up in the top table into the bottom table. Any opinions on moving everything? DukeEgr93 11:11, 4 July 2006
"They are said to be very temperamental. (A generality disputed by some calico owners.)" Well now, I've owned two calico cats and I can confirm they're both very temperamental. However, I can't say that they're especially more temperamental than cats of other colors. Angr ( talk • contribs) 11:22, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
My family had a money cat that was especially tempermental. She hated women and would often attack them without provocation, while men could play, pat or rough up her fur without any consequences. She also never looked happy, always displaying her 'bastard kitty' face, even when asleep! Another oddity: she was lefthanded, always leading with that paw. 70.88.213.74 ( talk) 20:11, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Email [3] Michelle Sollicito, now in Marietta, GA Mishj 16:54, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
I removed two images that were hard to make out. I would suggest editing the captions. DrL 03:50, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Please add photos only to the gallery unless illustrating a point in the text. All photos, including gallery images, should be high quality and properly formatted! NightSky 15:34, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Be sure to include only high resolution photos. If placed in the body of the article, be sure that they illustrate a point, otherwise put in the gallery. DrL 23:54, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Here are some photos of the different types (from this page as well as Commons). Please feel free to add any others you find. howch e ng { chat} 18:41, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
I removed unsubstantiated comments regarding temperament. Please reintroduce only with appropriate citation. The other bulleted factoids have been worked into the article. DrL 23:54, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
The reason I re-edited the photo gallery was that there seemed too many photos of certain types of cat, without any reason of differentiation. One calico cat after another, for example, without any distinguishing characteristics, doesn't seem to be a very good reason to have in an encyclopaedia, however much their owners love them and think them and think of them as being lovely. After all, this is part of Wikipedia, one of the greatest encyclopaedias, if not now soon will be! It is not a vanity production. I have put the previous version into the talk page.
If you want to add any further photos, please make sure they are going to be there by reason of really distinguishing characteristics, and not just because you love to see them there. I am sorry about this, but Wikipedia being Wikipedia comes first. It was discussed by three Wikipedians above in the talk page, but for some reason or other did not attract any more pros and cons - which is rather surprising. I gave it a month to see what the final vote would be, but it was only ever the three of us, DrL, howcheng and myself who agreed with a re-edit. Dieter Simon 22:25, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
I saw this video of three kittens (one orange tabby and the other two were white and one of the white kittens had a gray tail) at four-weeks-old and their mom was a calico! What is the percentage of calicos having solid color kittens? P.S. I think I made a mistake. I think mom was a tortoiseshell...
| O(X)| B(X) (mother, 1 orange and 1 black gene) ----|------|------ O(X)| OO | OB ----|------|------ B(Y)| OB | BB
So you have four possibilities in this example: 1 female orange, 1 tortie/calico, 1 male orange, and 1 female black/brown tabby. Throw in other genes like the white (i.e., color-surpressing) gene, the tabby (agouti) gene, the solid (i.e., tabby-surpressing) gene in and you have a large number of possibilities. howcheng { chat} 00:48, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
I heard that they were all sterile so how could they be breeding in the first place? please explain!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.244.7.247 ( talk) 14:33, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
I heard here that Torties are natural "talkers". Is this true? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.16.151.77 ( talk) 17:27, 10 March 2007 (UTC).
calico cats are all diffrent types of colors!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 168.8.156.3 ( talk) 16:19, 8 May 2007 (UTC).
My Tabby cat, Sheila recently had a litter of four kittens, 3 of which turned out to be calico. The first and my favorite is Charcoal who is a classic tortoishell color. He has male genitalia, but has no scrotum. The second is Tubbs. He has all his male genitalia. He was originally solid black , but has since developed patches of deep browns and reds in his coat. I wonder is he sterile, or will I need to have him neutered? The third calico is obviuosly female. We named her Bleach, because she looks as though clorox was spillied on her white and gray coat leaving small patches of light brown here and there.The forth kitten is a classic tabby cat just like his mother, except he has very big ears and is very fast, hence his name, Jack Rabbit. I have never had a calico cat before, so I am just learning about them. It is true that they talk all the time. I thought maybe they had gotten this attribute from their father who is solid black w/ white belly, feet, and nose. Bootsie is very talkative, but I think that comes from all the attention he gets from the kids. He is the lone survivor of my first cat ,a black siamese, Miss Kittie, that passed 10 yrs ago. Anyway, I am wondering, is it common to have this many calicos in one litter? I am finding that Tubbs is very unique in having all his male genitalia and appearing to not be sterile. If anyone can give me some insight into this matter, pleases do so. thanks. Brandy Bowman —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.166.98.108 ( talk) 12:20, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
I removed a picture as it had no title under it and I couldn't find one for it otherwise.
We all know most torties and calicos are girls...but what about boy torties and calicos? Have there been any known boy cats who were torites or calicos? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.16.151.77 ( talk • contribs) 23:40, 28 May 2007 (UTC).
I may very well have got this wrong. I'd never heard of the term, I'm just going by this. If someone could just check it. Thanks, -- Abu-Fool Danyal ibn Amir al-Makhiri 19:02, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Please only add photos of types of cats not shown before, this is not a vanity page. In the process of entering this photo the text became corrupted as well. Dieter Simon 23:39, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Ive never heard of a tortie being referred to as a money cat. I clicked the source and i have to say its horrible. some humane society saying it, does not make it so. i think it should be supported by a better source or edited out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Idrankhemlock ( talk • contribs) 01:34, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
sorry mixed up the sources —Preceding unsigned comment added by Idrankhemlock ( talk • contribs) 02:27, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
One of the photos was captioned "Beautiful calico", which is hardly fair or neutral. I've just changed it to "A calico" for the time being. Feel free to replace it with a more descriptive and less vain adjective. Booyah. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Barutazaru ( talk • contribs) 16:59, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Has anyone noticed this? http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Tortoiseshell-cat 71.145.134.12 ( talk) Has anyone noticed that the picture on this page is not of a tortoiseshell cat but a calico cat?
Yes, I did and it irritated me. I have a tortoiseshell cat. I'll take a picture of her and post it later. B 16:13, 2 Oct 2003 (UTC)
"Tortoiseshell cat" should not have been merged with "Tortoiseshell". There are other "tortoiseshell" animals and meanings to "tortoiseshell" besides only "Tortoiseshell cat". The material in "Tortoiseshell" should have been moved to "Tortoiseshell cat" and a more general article written about "Tortoiseshell". — B| Talk 13:21, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
p.s. I got confused--brought this up at the cat article page instead of the Wikiproject talk page, which I can't find just at the moment. Sorry. Quill
I suggest redirecting [[Calico]], [[Calico cat]], [[Tortoiseshell and white]] and [[Tortoiseshell and white cat]] to [[Tortoiseshell cat]]. — B| Talk 13:14, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
I took a picture of my tortoiseshell cat and would like to put it in the gallery, but I see there has been some controversy over the amount of photos. I think four tortoiseshell photos is just the right amount, yes, but I believe my picture illustrates tortoiseshell better than this picture does. That picture seems to have a lot of just plain black, and tortoiseshells generally have a lot more colors. Can I have the go ahead to replace the picture? I don't want to do it without confirmation that it's okay.
(P.S. Also, what's with all the unformatted talk at the top of the page? o.0)
Isn't torbie a specific type of tabby pattern? Quill 23:38, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Aren't the shells of tortoises usually brown and isn't calico a cotton material. The article hasn't answered the one thing I wanted to know. Where these odd cat terms come from.
When you look at the page history of the article you can see that it was becoming quite untidy by 00:42 17 March. For the sake of article unity I thought it better to reformat the photos in "gallery" format, I know we all love to see our "darlings" in as good an appearance as possible, but when the images were appearing all over the place it didn't give that good over-all impression. So I hope you don't mind too much that I have taken this step. After all, it is a Wikipedia article the quality of which should guide us more than individual additions to the article. Dieter Simon 22:21, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Only problem is some of the images will not show up in the gallery tag. I added an old-style gallery beneath that one and moved the pictures that were not showing up in the top table into the bottom table. Any opinions on moving everything? DukeEgr93 11:11, 4 July 2006
"They are said to be very temperamental. (A generality disputed by some calico owners.)" Well now, I've owned two calico cats and I can confirm they're both very temperamental. However, I can't say that they're especially more temperamental than cats of other colors. Angr ( talk • contribs) 11:22, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
My family had a money cat that was especially tempermental. She hated women and would often attack them without provocation, while men could play, pat or rough up her fur without any consequences. She also never looked happy, always displaying her 'bastard kitty' face, even when asleep! Another oddity: she was lefthanded, always leading with that paw. 70.88.213.74 ( talk) 20:11, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Email [3] Michelle Sollicito, now in Marietta, GA Mishj 16:54, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
I removed two images that were hard to make out. I would suggest editing the captions. DrL 03:50, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Please add photos only to the gallery unless illustrating a point in the text. All photos, including gallery images, should be high quality and properly formatted! NightSky 15:34, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Be sure to include only high resolution photos. If placed in the body of the article, be sure that they illustrate a point, otherwise put in the gallery. DrL 23:54, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Here are some photos of the different types (from this page as well as Commons). Please feel free to add any others you find. howch e ng { chat} 18:41, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
I removed unsubstantiated comments regarding temperament. Please reintroduce only with appropriate citation. The other bulleted factoids have been worked into the article. DrL 23:54, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
The reason I re-edited the photo gallery was that there seemed too many photos of certain types of cat, without any reason of differentiation. One calico cat after another, for example, without any distinguishing characteristics, doesn't seem to be a very good reason to have in an encyclopaedia, however much their owners love them and think them and think of them as being lovely. After all, this is part of Wikipedia, one of the greatest encyclopaedias, if not now soon will be! It is not a vanity production. I have put the previous version into the talk page.
If you want to add any further photos, please make sure they are going to be there by reason of really distinguishing characteristics, and not just because you love to see them there. I am sorry about this, but Wikipedia being Wikipedia comes first. It was discussed by three Wikipedians above in the talk page, but for some reason or other did not attract any more pros and cons - which is rather surprising. I gave it a month to see what the final vote would be, but it was only ever the three of us, DrL, howcheng and myself who agreed with a re-edit. Dieter Simon 22:25, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
I saw this video of three kittens (one orange tabby and the other two were white and one of the white kittens had a gray tail) at four-weeks-old and their mom was a calico! What is the percentage of calicos having solid color kittens? P.S. I think I made a mistake. I think mom was a tortoiseshell...
| O(X)| B(X) (mother, 1 orange and 1 black gene) ----|------|------ O(X)| OO | OB ----|------|------ B(Y)| OB | BB
So you have four possibilities in this example: 1 female orange, 1 tortie/calico, 1 male orange, and 1 female black/brown tabby. Throw in other genes like the white (i.e., color-surpressing) gene, the tabby (agouti) gene, the solid (i.e., tabby-surpressing) gene in and you have a large number of possibilities. howcheng { chat} 00:48, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
I heard that they were all sterile so how could they be breeding in the first place? please explain!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.244.7.247 ( talk) 14:33, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
I heard here that Torties are natural "talkers". Is this true? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.16.151.77 ( talk) 17:27, 10 March 2007 (UTC).
calico cats are all diffrent types of colors!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 168.8.156.3 ( talk) 16:19, 8 May 2007 (UTC).
My Tabby cat, Sheila recently had a litter of four kittens, 3 of which turned out to be calico. The first and my favorite is Charcoal who is a classic tortoishell color. He has male genitalia, but has no scrotum. The second is Tubbs. He has all his male genitalia. He was originally solid black , but has since developed patches of deep browns and reds in his coat. I wonder is he sterile, or will I need to have him neutered? The third calico is obviuosly female. We named her Bleach, because she looks as though clorox was spillied on her white and gray coat leaving small patches of light brown here and there.The forth kitten is a classic tabby cat just like his mother, except he has very big ears and is very fast, hence his name, Jack Rabbit. I have never had a calico cat before, so I am just learning about them. It is true that they talk all the time. I thought maybe they had gotten this attribute from their father who is solid black w/ white belly, feet, and nose. Bootsie is very talkative, but I think that comes from all the attention he gets from the kids. He is the lone survivor of my first cat ,a black siamese, Miss Kittie, that passed 10 yrs ago. Anyway, I am wondering, is it common to have this many calicos in one litter? I am finding that Tubbs is very unique in having all his male genitalia and appearing to not be sterile. If anyone can give me some insight into this matter, pleases do so. thanks. Brandy Bowman —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.166.98.108 ( talk) 12:20, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
I removed a picture as it had no title under it and I couldn't find one for it otherwise.
We all know most torties and calicos are girls...but what about boy torties and calicos? Have there been any known boy cats who were torites or calicos? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.16.151.77 ( talk • contribs) 23:40, 28 May 2007 (UTC).
I may very well have got this wrong. I'd never heard of the term, I'm just going by this. If someone could just check it. Thanks, -- Abu-Fool Danyal ibn Amir al-Makhiri 19:02, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Please only add photos of types of cats not shown before, this is not a vanity page. In the process of entering this photo the text became corrupted as well. Dieter Simon 23:39, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Ive never heard of a tortie being referred to as a money cat. I clicked the source and i have to say its horrible. some humane society saying it, does not make it so. i think it should be supported by a better source or edited out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Idrankhemlock ( talk • contribs) 01:34, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
sorry mixed up the sources —Preceding unsigned comment added by Idrankhemlock ( talk • contribs) 02:27, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
One of the photos was captioned "Beautiful calico", which is hardly fair or neutral. I've just changed it to "A calico" for the time being. Feel free to replace it with a more descriptive and less vain adjective. Booyah. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Barutazaru ( talk • contribs) 16:59, 30 May 2008 (UTC)