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More severe weather, possibly tornadoes, are forecast tomorrow in the South. Since it is from a separate system with a separation, this would have to be changed to an outbreak sequence to cover them here if they develop into an outbreak as well (but they could be covered in a separate section as well on Tornadoes of 2008 especially if there is no significant outbreak). That will need to be decided. CrazyC83 ( talk) 13:42, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Here is how I think it should be treated: for now, keep them separate (Jan. 7-8 and Jan. 10-?). However, should a significant outbreak take place today (i.e. more than some isolated tornadoes), then merge them together and change this to an outbreak sequence. CrazyC83 ( talk) 16:01, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
To put the outbreaks/outbreak sequence in perspective, I've made and uploaded a map of all known tornadoes in the U.S. during January from 1950-2006. The event was rare, but not unprecedented, for the northern extent of tornadoes in N IL/Wisconsin and the western extent of tornadoes in Oklahoma. Evolauxia ( talk) 21:46, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Is this article region-specific or can the SW Washington tornado ( http://www.columbian.com/news/localNews/2008/01/01102008_Tornado-causes-damage-in-Fruit-Valley-Hazel-Dell-Orchards.cfm) be included? Although SW Washington's wasn't very large, it is important because it was the first significant tornado in the region since 1972. If anyone is interested in doing the writing, I'll upload some photos I took of the aftermath. (Later edit: Forgot to sign, signing now.) -- 67.160.185.231 ( talk) 00:13, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Can anyone find a source for this? Gopher backer ( talk) 17:13, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
The NCDC has updated the storm data up until January 31, 2008 which includes this outbreak. However, there are several differences with the list in this article including tornadoes that are in the article but not on the NCDC list, new tornadoes not in the article, tornadoes which has 2 different tracks in the article which in the NCDC has one longer track and even I won't be surprised, other with different Enhanced Fujita scale ratings. I could wait a few days/weeks before adding the update data as it may have been recently added to the archives.-- JForget 16:36, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
After looking at all the data (from all of January), it seems 74 is the correct number of tornadoes from this outbreak. (The 75th one from description was an EF2 in Webster County that had its time incorrectly assessed - easy to do at night when 31 tornadoes touch down in 15 hours in a single WFO - and found to have happened much later, and since the tracks match it was deleted). An SPC report says that 88 tornadoes will go down in Storm Data in January, and combining this data with the NCDC storm data from the remainder of January adds up to 88. CrazyC83 ( talk) 00:52, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
According to SPC there were 84 tornadoes in January. Looking at the NCDC tornado database there was one tornado in washington on january 10, one tornado on january 24, one tornado on january 27 and eight on january 29; adding up to eleven. Here there are 74 tornadoes which would bring the number up to 85, which is one more than SPC has. After looking at the NCDC they have three tornado reports in illinois, two for the EF3 and one for the EF1 but it doesn't have anything on the Pleasant Hill, Illinois tornado. Should that be removed?
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More severe weather, possibly tornadoes, are forecast tomorrow in the South. Since it is from a separate system with a separation, this would have to be changed to an outbreak sequence to cover them here if they develop into an outbreak as well (but they could be covered in a separate section as well on Tornadoes of 2008 especially if there is no significant outbreak). That will need to be decided. CrazyC83 ( talk) 13:42, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Here is how I think it should be treated: for now, keep them separate (Jan. 7-8 and Jan. 10-?). However, should a significant outbreak take place today (i.e. more than some isolated tornadoes), then merge them together and change this to an outbreak sequence. CrazyC83 ( talk) 16:01, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
To put the outbreaks/outbreak sequence in perspective, I've made and uploaded a map of all known tornadoes in the U.S. during January from 1950-2006. The event was rare, but not unprecedented, for the northern extent of tornadoes in N IL/Wisconsin and the western extent of tornadoes in Oklahoma. Evolauxia ( talk) 21:46, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Is this article region-specific or can the SW Washington tornado ( http://www.columbian.com/news/localNews/2008/01/01102008_Tornado-causes-damage-in-Fruit-Valley-Hazel-Dell-Orchards.cfm) be included? Although SW Washington's wasn't very large, it is important because it was the first significant tornado in the region since 1972. If anyone is interested in doing the writing, I'll upload some photos I took of the aftermath. (Later edit: Forgot to sign, signing now.) -- 67.160.185.231 ( talk) 00:13, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Can anyone find a source for this? Gopher backer ( talk) 17:13, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
The NCDC has updated the storm data up until January 31, 2008 which includes this outbreak. However, there are several differences with the list in this article including tornadoes that are in the article but not on the NCDC list, new tornadoes not in the article, tornadoes which has 2 different tracks in the article which in the NCDC has one longer track and even I won't be surprised, other with different Enhanced Fujita scale ratings. I could wait a few days/weeks before adding the update data as it may have been recently added to the archives.-- JForget 16:36, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
After looking at all the data (from all of January), it seems 74 is the correct number of tornadoes from this outbreak. (The 75th one from description was an EF2 in Webster County that had its time incorrectly assessed - easy to do at night when 31 tornadoes touch down in 15 hours in a single WFO - and found to have happened much later, and since the tracks match it was deleted). An SPC report says that 88 tornadoes will go down in Storm Data in January, and combining this data with the NCDC storm data from the remainder of January adds up to 88. CrazyC83 ( talk) 00:52, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
According to SPC there were 84 tornadoes in January. Looking at the NCDC tornado database there was one tornado in washington on january 10, one tornado on january 24, one tornado on january 27 and eight on january 29; adding up to eleven. Here there are 74 tornadoes which would bring the number up to 85, which is one more than SPC has. After looking at the NCDC they have three tornado reports in illinois, two for the EF3 and one for the EF1 but it doesn't have anything on the Pleasant Hill, Illinois tornado. Should that be removed?
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