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[expansion requested] Ridiculously short amount of information on very notable vocalist. A google search for Tony has Wikipedia as the fourth site. ErikNY 20:48, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
151.205.117.118 keeps changing Bennett's original first name to Antonio, but it is definitely Anthony. On page 98 of his autobiography The Good Life, he states that his name is "Anthony Dominick Benedetto". Moreover, on page 14 there's a picture of him and his two siblings as small children, and a parent scrawled "Mary John and Anthony" on it. Wasted Time R 23:25, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
It's a pity we can't get a better/bigger image. On checking the image details, it is described as a low-res scan from an album cover. I can't see any problem with fair use in this instance, and maybe we can go a bit bigger? After all, the article contains several scans of entire album covers. -- Surgeonsmate 00:11, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
Best practice is to wikify dates into the format [[20 January]] [[2001]] or [[January 20]] [[2001]] because this displays dates to the reader in their preferred format. The examples above would both display as 20 January 2001 to a reader with British preferences set. And January 20, 2001 to a reader with U.S. preferences (the default). See how these look to you:
We don't need to wikilink subsequent appearences of the same year when they are just a year, or even a month and year. But full dates should be wikified, if for no other reason than to display that comma for U.S. readers. See WP:MOSDATE -- Surgeonsmate 00:06, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
As someone deleted her page when consensus was 'keep', I am puttling the cached Google version of her page in case anyone wants to work some of the information in on her dad's page. Never heard of her before, so not worth my effort to start her page again... (NOTABILITY NOTE: she did win an award.) Icarus 23 16:03, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Antonia Bennett (born Antonia Benedetto, April, 1978) is an American popular music and jazz singer, daughter of legendary singer Tony Bennett. [edit] Background According to her website, Bennett has been performing alongside her father since she was four. She graduated from the Berklee College of Music in Boston. In a review of the show in The New York Times, Bennett's performance was described as, "conjures echoes of Billie Holiday and Ricki Lee Jones, with a hint of Betty Boop."[1] In 2005, she was the recipient of the David Award for entertainment, presented by the Italo-American National Union to promising young Italian-Americans [edit] References Official Antonia Bennett music website Official Tony Bennett music website ^ CABARET REVIEW; A Rhythm-and-Blues Man Croons to the Cocktail Crowd" New York Times, February 8, 2002 www.WhiteHouse.com Dec 4, 2005 - Washington DC - Antonia Bennett a guest at the White House with President Bush, Tony Bennett, Robert Redford, and Tina Turner. 9/21/2003 Antonia Bennett sings on The Regis & Kelly Show - New York City 7/24/2000 The Today Show - New York City This article about an American singer is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it. Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonia_Bennett" Categories: Articles for deletion | United States singer stubs | Living people | 1978 births | American singers
Should this article mention Bennett's recent comments that America has given nothing to the world except jazz and Alcoholics Anonymous? Politician818 02:45, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
I noticed there is no reference to Tony Bennett establishing the Frank Sinatra School of the Arts a performing arts school in New York City. Could someone please add one? Thanks. Justin Tokke 03:37, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
I know protecting is not used preventively but given Colbert's character outrage last year with Barry Manilow's Emmy win, there should be extra watchlisting of this article and protecting if necessary. 128.227.27.64 04:37, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
I removed a citation about Bennett's military experiences because the source was a brief profile at a military portal not meeting WP:RS for the information it was supporting. The info in the article needs to be removed or better sourced, which I will try to do. Does anyone have any immediate better sources for this info? Thanks. Flowanda | Talk 05:13, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
This is meant to be an encyclopedia, not a fan-site. The article isn't neutral enough and delivers too much praise. Also, avoid using headers like "A growing success" and "Looking ahead to the future" or whatever. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.30.122.32 ( talk) 11:10, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Agreed- In the sentence describing that TB developed a drug addiction, I took out the parenthetical that many musicians developed drug habits. It was unnecessary editorial context that turned a fact into an excuse. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.45.15.223 ( talk) 19:32, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/37/TonyBenettKimmelCenter2.JPG
More than 3/4 is just a black nothing, it´s completely out of focus and where supposed to be a face of Bennett, is just a big white blur. Sorry, but this picture is of no use for the article and is wasting traffic on the wikipedia-servers every time someone loads this article. --
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it's a fan's effusion. "...tony had come all the way back", etc - you're got to be kidding. [20:06, February 18, 2011 209.34.145.82]
With alll due respect Tony Benent has a sweet voice but has never in is life like Sinatra and Elvis has wrote a song. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.45.13.253 ( talk) 17:02, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
The song "All For You" on The Art Of Romance"is credited to Django Reinhardt & Tony Bennett - source liner notes ! Chrisphase ( talk) 14:41, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
Thank you to all the editors who have contributed so much time and energy to this article. It was such a pleasure to read! I wish all our articles were half as good. Keep up your wonderful work. - Gorthian ( talk) 07:16, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
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I didn't want to edit the main article as it also concerns a separate reference so I thought it deserves some discussion. The section "First successes" states "Warned by Miller not to imitate Frank Sinatra[4] (who was just then leaving Columbia), Bennett began his career as a crooner singing commercial pop tunes."
Tony Bennett has just said himself on the UK TV Show "The One Show" That this is incorrect. It was actually one of his teachers at The American Theatre Wing who told him (I Quote) "Don't imitate other singers because you will be one of the chorus, be yourself. Imitate musicians rather than singers"
philetaylor — Preceding unsigned comment added by Philetaylor ( talk • contribs) 18:32, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
I have recently made some alterations to the TB entry which have been rejected as unverifiable or expression of my opinion and I find it confusing that I was attempting to correct enteries that I felt had only been exprssions of opinion in any case. The first was in regard to his troubled times, I felt the sentance "he had hit rock bottom" to be unfair as having read his biography (and seen videos of concerts from around that period) whilst he was not present in the record charts he could still fill theatres with admiring audiences. The vague allusion to ill-considered Beatles songs seem to me to also unfair given the success he had with the George Harrison song "Something" which appeared on 2 albums and greatest hits collections as well as in concert. The album mentioned as being ill-concieved has much that is agreeable content and should not be judged solely (in someone's opinion) on Eleanor Rigby and I wanted to reflect that point. The implication the he had left Columbia to avoid Beatles songs makes it strange that he should record them on arrival with MGM/Verve - a fact not an opinion.
Finally I wanted to record the fact that in November a 73 CD set of almost all his recordings was issued regardless of recording company - and that is a fact too!
I must add that I find the wikipedia "protocol language" used confusing for someone who does not want to make a career of editing and agruing their points but wants to correct or add something in the same spirit of an existing article when it becomes known to them - I tried to use "Feedback about editing" without success - if I am raising this in the wrong way it is the best I can manage at present.
Chrisphase ( talk) 14:41, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for posting here, that is the correct way to proceed. You are right that Wikipedia's rules can seem mystifying to a newcomer. The single most important one is also counterintuitive: Wikipedia is about verifiability, not truth. This causes a lot of trouble on the popular culture articles in particular. In any case, to particulars:
Anyway, if you see the 90 different footnotes in this article, that's the kind of support that material needs to get in. So please proceed with discussions here, but with some sources attached. Wasted Time R ( talk) 04:29, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for replying - I shall digest and respond in due course - meanwhile on MGM/Verve he recorded Paul McCartney's My Love & George Harrison's Give Me Love (Give Me Peace On Earth) which appear on Tony Bennett's Greatest Hits Vol7 released on Verve Lp and Curb CD 1991, "Something" is Track 1 on Tony Bennett's All-Time Greatest Hits Columbia 1991. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrisphase ( talk • contribs) 15:02, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
Chrisphase ( talk) 14:26, 23 March 2012 (UTC)Reluctant as I am to devote too much of my life to this I find myself unable to resist an immediate reposte - "Something" is Track 1 on my copy of the All-Time CD and not track 18 and it is also listed as track 1 in my Music Master record Catalogue edition 18 (1991) on the vinyl too - for two enteries, "My Love" had a UK Philips and US Verve single release and impressed someone enough to be put into a greatest hits package which in your opinion are a mismash - it would appear their opinion - like mine - count for little. I had mentioned them to counter your statement that he had no Beatles songs on his two Verve albums. I find it hard to believe he left Columbia to avoid Beatles songs only to record some with his next recording company. When I have time I will list for you occasions of "Something" sung in concert (including the outtake from the Get Happy live Album) I have in my collection and details of the TV shows I have.
With regard to the Complete set there is an article by Will Friedland attached to the Barnes & Noble entry where it sells for $399.99 which touches on the completness of the set. Chrisphase ( talk) 14:26, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
Chrisphase ( talk) 14:50, 27 March 2012 (UTC)I am much happier with the alterations you have now made but do still object to the description of the album in question as ill-conceieved as this is only an opinion that directs any reader away from the album without balancing the opinion with the opposing view, even if Tony Bennett now disowns it. I have unearthed an article on an interview he gave Paul Gambaccino for Rolling Stone 10/5/73 - it was published in the Appreciation Society newsletter in 2000 but I cannot retrieve the original from the Rolling Stone 1973 archive. In it TB claims "I really tricked them - I did them all my way, quality music, anyway" I don't know if the photocopy I have would scan in as an attachment. I would also point out that this album was recorded shortly before the next and material was held over for the album "Something" which TB remains proud of and allowed to be part of his Master Series of mid 90's CD releases - see his comments on the reverse about his "Hit Catalog". "Eleanor Rigby" apart there is little to choose between these 2 albums depending on personal preferences. Amongst others "Golden Slumbers" was also recorded but never released. Both albums were arranged by Peter Matz late 1969 to Summer 1970.
The article also confirms Mike Curb gave him control over the material he recorded at Verve. The "Great Songs" album has been included in the Complete box set and yet 2 Verve album tracks are withheld and one wonders if memory gets confused.
As mentioned I have many recordings of "Something" from TV shows and concerts up to 10 years after the recording I can list if you wish - the last was at Edmonton c1981 with Woody Herman which has been issued under many labels on dvd - and shows he was not limited to Las Vegas. TB although proud of his "Songbook" recordings also claims the delight he had in introducing new songs (covers) as he often reminds us in concert.
The complete set needs adding to the discography.
I shall now move on. Chrisphase ( talk) 14:50, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
It appears to me that much of the introduction belongs in the early years of Bennett's life. The biography as a whole appears to mention his first years in the lead section, instead of chronologically in the first section. Otherwise, most of his article focuses on either his later career or discography and awards. More focus on balance for his life acheivements? Remember too, the images should clearly reflect the text. Don't just cram them in there because you have one you really like, and jam in anyplace there's space- that doesn't follow WP:IMAGE RELEVANCE. -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 02:08, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
What Tony Bennett said isn't just like any other political comment. It's nothing like the normal political differences that you find in people like John Mcain, Obama, etc. He comment was wildly controversial and needs to be mentioned as such.
It's been mentioned in various new reports and even to the point where he had to apologize: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/09/tony-bennett-on-911-attacks-they-flew-the-plane-in-but-we-caused-it/ http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44602197/ns/today-entertainment/t/tony-bennett-blames-americans-attacks/ http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2011/09/20/tony-bennett-tells-howard-stern-us-caused-11-attacks/ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/20/tony-bennett-911_n_971972.html
Alot of wikipedia celelbraty articles have contraversy sections like that. George Clooney and his comment on Charlton Heston for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Clooney#Controversy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Graylandertagger ( talk • contribs) 19:59, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
It's been awhile, but I still have to stress that a controversy section is needed. You do strike a valid arguement and i'd like to discuss this further if you'd like, but I stand by my opinion. He does apologize, but it still gathered a storm of backlashing with is the whole basis of controversy in general. Compairing him to the 2012 presidental canidates is alot akward since that's a completely different story. Presidental canidates have massive, massive profiles and what they do that is controversal is little more than sides of the political spectrum. Left or right. Tony Benett on the other hand basically called America the real terrorists in wake of the 9/11 bombings. Granted, it may not have altered his entire career, but it still leaves a large mark on his moral character since his statement was neither left or right in terms of politics and/or morality. The statement itself to those that heard it was undesirible. That being said I believe that it's only fair to referce it as controversal, since that's what I was in the end(along with the fact that it was neither left or right). Still, i'm willing to discuss this if I must. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Graylandertagger ( talk • contribs) 02:00, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Don't want to step on anyone's toes, but, photos are my thing on the Wikipedias, and in Wikimedia Commons. I replaced the infobox photo for a clearer one of Bennett from the same time period, and removed a very dark photo further down in the text. Also to improve the balance of the look of the article, I moved both photos from his Honors at the White House and Kennedy Center from the left side of the page to the right. If there are objections, please leave me a note on my talk page.. I try to keep up with watchlists, but after all these years and after uploading over 1,500 pictures that are currently in use, it's hard to remain informed. Thanks so much! -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 10:57, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
The top photo seems problematic. " It is often preferable to place images of faces so that the face or eyes look toward the text." It's a definite no-no to be looking away from the text, especially for a top image. Any problem with the one to the right? It's also five years more recent. Anythingyouwant ( talk) 02:08, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
Who gave him this nickname? -- Melly42 ( talk) 13:17, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
The name " Antonia Bennett" redirects to Tony Bennett. This is a mistake. Antonia Bennett is actually Tony Bennett's daughter, not Tony's real first name, which is actually Anthony. In the Wikipedia page for Tony's ex-wife, Sandra Grant, it refers to Tony Bennett's daughter, Antonia, but the hyperlink redirects to Tony's page, because of this mistake. Could someone please fix this (I don't know how and don't feel like learning right now). Once fixed, go ahead and delete this paragraph. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.121.25.61 ( talk) 18:04, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
Yes, you are right about the whole "famous people's kids sometimes redirect to their parent(s)" thing, and I do believe now that the redirect was probably intentional and not a mistake. However, I still do not agree with it. The article on Tony Bennett makes no real mention of his daughter Antonia. I think it should just go to a "No page exists with this name". Someone could, in the future, make an article, or at least a stub, about her. After all, she is a somewhat notable singer and if you google her you will see a lot of things come up. Someone could, at the very least, put a blurb in the Tony Bennett article about her so that the redirect isn't completely pointless, barring an actual article/stub on her.
I Just noticed: Someone already made note of all this up above in the section titled "Antonia Bennett". Apparently she had her own page and the general consensus was to keep it, but it was removed. This person copied and pasted the article as it was if anyone feels like reposting it, or at the very least, incorporating into Tony Bennett's article. She is somewhat notable; more-so than some of the other people on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by YouarelovedSOmuch ( talk • contribs) 00:10, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
The source for him being born on "Long Island" states that he was born in Long Island City. Despite the name, Long Island City is part of Queens, and not Long Island (Nassau and Suffolk county). Saying he was born on "Long Island" alone is misleading. Pc Retro ( talk) 04:04, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
In the history I miss the fantastic duo recordings with Pianist Bill Evans, and that's sad because there Tony and Bill were at their best! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A445:8C96:1:7116:EA07:19AA:959C ( talk) 02:01, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
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[expansion requested] Ridiculously short amount of information on very notable vocalist. A google search for Tony has Wikipedia as the fourth site. ErikNY 20:48, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
151.205.117.118 keeps changing Bennett's original first name to Antonio, but it is definitely Anthony. On page 98 of his autobiography The Good Life, he states that his name is "Anthony Dominick Benedetto". Moreover, on page 14 there's a picture of him and his two siblings as small children, and a parent scrawled "Mary John and Anthony" on it. Wasted Time R 23:25, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
It's a pity we can't get a better/bigger image. On checking the image details, it is described as a low-res scan from an album cover. I can't see any problem with fair use in this instance, and maybe we can go a bit bigger? After all, the article contains several scans of entire album covers. -- Surgeonsmate 00:11, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
Best practice is to wikify dates into the format [[20 January]] [[2001]] or [[January 20]] [[2001]] because this displays dates to the reader in their preferred format. The examples above would both display as 20 January 2001 to a reader with British preferences set. And January 20, 2001 to a reader with U.S. preferences (the default). See how these look to you:
We don't need to wikilink subsequent appearences of the same year when they are just a year, or even a month and year. But full dates should be wikified, if for no other reason than to display that comma for U.S. readers. See WP:MOSDATE -- Surgeonsmate 00:06, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
As someone deleted her page when consensus was 'keep', I am puttling the cached Google version of her page in case anyone wants to work some of the information in on her dad's page. Never heard of her before, so not worth my effort to start her page again... (NOTABILITY NOTE: she did win an award.) Icarus 23 16:03, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Antonia Bennett (born Antonia Benedetto, April, 1978) is an American popular music and jazz singer, daughter of legendary singer Tony Bennett. [edit] Background According to her website, Bennett has been performing alongside her father since she was four. She graduated from the Berklee College of Music in Boston. In a review of the show in The New York Times, Bennett's performance was described as, "conjures echoes of Billie Holiday and Ricki Lee Jones, with a hint of Betty Boop."[1] In 2005, she was the recipient of the David Award for entertainment, presented by the Italo-American National Union to promising young Italian-Americans [edit] References Official Antonia Bennett music website Official Tony Bennett music website ^ CABARET REVIEW; A Rhythm-and-Blues Man Croons to the Cocktail Crowd" New York Times, February 8, 2002 www.WhiteHouse.com Dec 4, 2005 - Washington DC - Antonia Bennett a guest at the White House with President Bush, Tony Bennett, Robert Redford, and Tina Turner. 9/21/2003 Antonia Bennett sings on The Regis & Kelly Show - New York City 7/24/2000 The Today Show - New York City This article about an American singer is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it. Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonia_Bennett" Categories: Articles for deletion | United States singer stubs | Living people | 1978 births | American singers
Should this article mention Bennett's recent comments that America has given nothing to the world except jazz and Alcoholics Anonymous? Politician818 02:45, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
I noticed there is no reference to Tony Bennett establishing the Frank Sinatra School of the Arts a performing arts school in New York City. Could someone please add one? Thanks. Justin Tokke 03:37, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
I know protecting is not used preventively but given Colbert's character outrage last year with Barry Manilow's Emmy win, there should be extra watchlisting of this article and protecting if necessary. 128.227.27.64 04:37, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
I removed a citation about Bennett's military experiences because the source was a brief profile at a military portal not meeting WP:RS for the information it was supporting. The info in the article needs to be removed or better sourced, which I will try to do. Does anyone have any immediate better sources for this info? Thanks. Flowanda | Talk 05:13, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
This is meant to be an encyclopedia, not a fan-site. The article isn't neutral enough and delivers too much praise. Also, avoid using headers like "A growing success" and "Looking ahead to the future" or whatever. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.30.122.32 ( talk) 11:10, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Agreed- In the sentence describing that TB developed a drug addiction, I took out the parenthetical that many musicians developed drug habits. It was unnecessary editorial context that turned a fact into an excuse. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.45.15.223 ( talk) 19:32, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/37/TonyBenettKimmelCenter2.JPG
More than 3/4 is just a black nothing, it´s completely out of focus and where supposed to be a face of Bennett, is just a big white blur. Sorry, but this picture is of no use for the article and is wasting traffic on the wikipedia-servers every time someone loads this article. --
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04:01, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
it's a fan's effusion. "...tony had come all the way back", etc - you're got to be kidding. [20:06, February 18, 2011 209.34.145.82]
With alll due respect Tony Benent has a sweet voice but has never in is life like Sinatra and Elvis has wrote a song. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.45.13.253 ( talk) 17:02, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
The song "All For You" on The Art Of Romance"is credited to Django Reinhardt & Tony Bennett - source liner notes ! Chrisphase ( talk) 14:41, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
Thank you to all the editors who have contributed so much time and energy to this article. It was such a pleasure to read! I wish all our articles were half as good. Keep up your wonderful work. - Gorthian ( talk) 07:16, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
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I didn't want to edit the main article as it also concerns a separate reference so I thought it deserves some discussion. The section "First successes" states "Warned by Miller not to imitate Frank Sinatra[4] (who was just then leaving Columbia), Bennett began his career as a crooner singing commercial pop tunes."
Tony Bennett has just said himself on the UK TV Show "The One Show" That this is incorrect. It was actually one of his teachers at The American Theatre Wing who told him (I Quote) "Don't imitate other singers because you will be one of the chorus, be yourself. Imitate musicians rather than singers"
philetaylor — Preceding unsigned comment added by Philetaylor ( talk • contribs) 18:32, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
I have recently made some alterations to the TB entry which have been rejected as unverifiable or expression of my opinion and I find it confusing that I was attempting to correct enteries that I felt had only been exprssions of opinion in any case. The first was in regard to his troubled times, I felt the sentance "he had hit rock bottom" to be unfair as having read his biography (and seen videos of concerts from around that period) whilst he was not present in the record charts he could still fill theatres with admiring audiences. The vague allusion to ill-considered Beatles songs seem to me to also unfair given the success he had with the George Harrison song "Something" which appeared on 2 albums and greatest hits collections as well as in concert. The album mentioned as being ill-concieved has much that is agreeable content and should not be judged solely (in someone's opinion) on Eleanor Rigby and I wanted to reflect that point. The implication the he had left Columbia to avoid Beatles songs makes it strange that he should record them on arrival with MGM/Verve - a fact not an opinion.
Finally I wanted to record the fact that in November a 73 CD set of almost all his recordings was issued regardless of recording company - and that is a fact too!
I must add that I find the wikipedia "protocol language" used confusing for someone who does not want to make a career of editing and agruing their points but wants to correct or add something in the same spirit of an existing article when it becomes known to them - I tried to use "Feedback about editing" without success - if I am raising this in the wrong way it is the best I can manage at present.
Chrisphase ( talk) 14:41, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for posting here, that is the correct way to proceed. You are right that Wikipedia's rules can seem mystifying to a newcomer. The single most important one is also counterintuitive: Wikipedia is about verifiability, not truth. This causes a lot of trouble on the popular culture articles in particular. In any case, to particulars:
Anyway, if you see the 90 different footnotes in this article, that's the kind of support that material needs to get in. So please proceed with discussions here, but with some sources attached. Wasted Time R ( talk) 04:29, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for replying - I shall digest and respond in due course - meanwhile on MGM/Verve he recorded Paul McCartney's My Love & George Harrison's Give Me Love (Give Me Peace On Earth) which appear on Tony Bennett's Greatest Hits Vol7 released on Verve Lp and Curb CD 1991, "Something" is Track 1 on Tony Bennett's All-Time Greatest Hits Columbia 1991. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrisphase ( talk • contribs) 15:02, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
Chrisphase ( talk) 14:26, 23 March 2012 (UTC)Reluctant as I am to devote too much of my life to this I find myself unable to resist an immediate reposte - "Something" is Track 1 on my copy of the All-Time CD and not track 18 and it is also listed as track 1 in my Music Master record Catalogue edition 18 (1991) on the vinyl too - for two enteries, "My Love" had a UK Philips and US Verve single release and impressed someone enough to be put into a greatest hits package which in your opinion are a mismash - it would appear their opinion - like mine - count for little. I had mentioned them to counter your statement that he had no Beatles songs on his two Verve albums. I find it hard to believe he left Columbia to avoid Beatles songs only to record some with his next recording company. When I have time I will list for you occasions of "Something" sung in concert (including the outtake from the Get Happy live Album) I have in my collection and details of the TV shows I have.
With regard to the Complete set there is an article by Will Friedland attached to the Barnes & Noble entry where it sells for $399.99 which touches on the completness of the set. Chrisphase ( talk) 14:26, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
Chrisphase ( talk) 14:50, 27 March 2012 (UTC)I am much happier with the alterations you have now made but do still object to the description of the album in question as ill-conceieved as this is only an opinion that directs any reader away from the album without balancing the opinion with the opposing view, even if Tony Bennett now disowns it. I have unearthed an article on an interview he gave Paul Gambaccino for Rolling Stone 10/5/73 - it was published in the Appreciation Society newsletter in 2000 but I cannot retrieve the original from the Rolling Stone 1973 archive. In it TB claims "I really tricked them - I did them all my way, quality music, anyway" I don't know if the photocopy I have would scan in as an attachment. I would also point out that this album was recorded shortly before the next and material was held over for the album "Something" which TB remains proud of and allowed to be part of his Master Series of mid 90's CD releases - see his comments on the reverse about his "Hit Catalog". "Eleanor Rigby" apart there is little to choose between these 2 albums depending on personal preferences. Amongst others "Golden Slumbers" was also recorded but never released. Both albums were arranged by Peter Matz late 1969 to Summer 1970.
The article also confirms Mike Curb gave him control over the material he recorded at Verve. The "Great Songs" album has been included in the Complete box set and yet 2 Verve album tracks are withheld and one wonders if memory gets confused.
As mentioned I have many recordings of "Something" from TV shows and concerts up to 10 years after the recording I can list if you wish - the last was at Edmonton c1981 with Woody Herman which has been issued under many labels on dvd - and shows he was not limited to Las Vegas. TB although proud of his "Songbook" recordings also claims the delight he had in introducing new songs (covers) as he often reminds us in concert.
The complete set needs adding to the discography.
I shall now move on. Chrisphase ( talk) 14:50, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
It appears to me that much of the introduction belongs in the early years of Bennett's life. The biography as a whole appears to mention his first years in the lead section, instead of chronologically in the first section. Otherwise, most of his article focuses on either his later career or discography and awards. More focus on balance for his life acheivements? Remember too, the images should clearly reflect the text. Don't just cram them in there because you have one you really like, and jam in anyplace there's space- that doesn't follow WP:IMAGE RELEVANCE. -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 02:08, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
What Tony Bennett said isn't just like any other political comment. It's nothing like the normal political differences that you find in people like John Mcain, Obama, etc. He comment was wildly controversial and needs to be mentioned as such.
It's been mentioned in various new reports and even to the point where he had to apologize: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/09/tony-bennett-on-911-attacks-they-flew-the-plane-in-but-we-caused-it/ http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44602197/ns/today-entertainment/t/tony-bennett-blames-americans-attacks/ http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2011/09/20/tony-bennett-tells-howard-stern-us-caused-11-attacks/ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/20/tony-bennett-911_n_971972.html
Alot of wikipedia celelbraty articles have contraversy sections like that. George Clooney and his comment on Charlton Heston for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Clooney#Controversy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Graylandertagger ( talk • contribs) 19:59, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
It's been awhile, but I still have to stress that a controversy section is needed. You do strike a valid arguement and i'd like to discuss this further if you'd like, but I stand by my opinion. He does apologize, but it still gathered a storm of backlashing with is the whole basis of controversy in general. Compairing him to the 2012 presidental canidates is alot akward since that's a completely different story. Presidental canidates have massive, massive profiles and what they do that is controversal is little more than sides of the political spectrum. Left or right. Tony Benett on the other hand basically called America the real terrorists in wake of the 9/11 bombings. Granted, it may not have altered his entire career, but it still leaves a large mark on his moral character since his statement was neither left or right in terms of politics and/or morality. The statement itself to those that heard it was undesirible. That being said I believe that it's only fair to referce it as controversal, since that's what I was in the end(along with the fact that it was neither left or right). Still, i'm willing to discuss this if I must. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Graylandertagger ( talk • contribs) 02:00, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Don't want to step on anyone's toes, but, photos are my thing on the Wikipedias, and in Wikimedia Commons. I replaced the infobox photo for a clearer one of Bennett from the same time period, and removed a very dark photo further down in the text. Also to improve the balance of the look of the article, I moved both photos from his Honors at the White House and Kennedy Center from the left side of the page to the right. If there are objections, please leave me a note on my talk page.. I try to keep up with watchlists, but after all these years and after uploading over 1,500 pictures that are currently in use, it's hard to remain informed. Thanks so much! -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 10:57, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
The top photo seems problematic. " It is often preferable to place images of faces so that the face or eyes look toward the text." It's a definite no-no to be looking away from the text, especially for a top image. Any problem with the one to the right? It's also five years more recent. Anythingyouwant ( talk) 02:08, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
Who gave him this nickname? -- Melly42 ( talk) 13:17, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
The name " Antonia Bennett" redirects to Tony Bennett. This is a mistake. Antonia Bennett is actually Tony Bennett's daughter, not Tony's real first name, which is actually Anthony. In the Wikipedia page for Tony's ex-wife, Sandra Grant, it refers to Tony Bennett's daughter, Antonia, but the hyperlink redirects to Tony's page, because of this mistake. Could someone please fix this (I don't know how and don't feel like learning right now). Once fixed, go ahead and delete this paragraph. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.121.25.61 ( talk) 18:04, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
Yes, you are right about the whole "famous people's kids sometimes redirect to their parent(s)" thing, and I do believe now that the redirect was probably intentional and not a mistake. However, I still do not agree with it. The article on Tony Bennett makes no real mention of his daughter Antonia. I think it should just go to a "No page exists with this name". Someone could, in the future, make an article, or at least a stub, about her. After all, she is a somewhat notable singer and if you google her you will see a lot of things come up. Someone could, at the very least, put a blurb in the Tony Bennett article about her so that the redirect isn't completely pointless, barring an actual article/stub on her.
I Just noticed: Someone already made note of all this up above in the section titled "Antonia Bennett". Apparently she had her own page and the general consensus was to keep it, but it was removed. This person copied and pasted the article as it was if anyone feels like reposting it, or at the very least, incorporating into Tony Bennett's article. She is somewhat notable; more-so than some of the other people on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by YouarelovedSOmuch ( talk • contribs) 00:10, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
The source for him being born on "Long Island" states that he was born in Long Island City. Despite the name, Long Island City is part of Queens, and not Long Island (Nassau and Suffolk county). Saying he was born on "Long Island" alone is misleading. Pc Retro ( talk) 04:04, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
In the history I miss the fantastic duo recordings with Pianist Bill Evans, and that's sad because there Tony and Bill were at their best! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A445:8C96:1:7116:EA07:19AA:959C ( talk) 02:01, 13 November 2021 (UTC)