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A fact from Tommy Wood (International Brigades) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 3 April 2024 ( check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Irish International Brigader Tommy Wood had only been in Spain for 18 days when he was killed at the Battle of Lopera during the Spanish Civil War?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/April. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Tommy Wood (International Brigades).

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 14:25, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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~~... that Irishman Tommy Wood either lied about his age to join the International Brigades or died in the Spanish Civil War aged 17? Source: ^[1]^[2]^[3]~~
- ALT1: ... that Irish International Brigader Tommy Wood was probably only 17 when he was killed at the Battle of Lopera during the Spanish Civil War? Source: ^[4]^[5]
- ALT2: ... that Irishman Tommy Wood, who was killed fighting for the Spanish Republic during the Civil War in 1936, had two uncles die fighting British forces during the Irish War of Independence in 1921? Source: ^[6]
- ALT3: ... that Irish International Brigader Tommy Wood had only been in Spain for 18 days when he was killed at the Battle of Lopera during the Spanish Civil War? Source: ^[7]^[8]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Liviu Holender
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Émile Gilliéron

Created by Serial Number 54129 ( talk). Self-nominated at 18:26, 13 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Tommy Wood (International Brigades); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page. reply

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing: - There is at least one verification issue in the article. I cannot see where it's cited that Woods was a communist, or even a socialist.
Neutral:
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Man, I knew this song but I didn't know the story behind it. I like ALT3 best but all the hooks are ok imv. ( t · c) buidhe 05:03, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Thanks for the review Buidhe, much appreciated. It's an odd thing: but it's bizarrely difficult finding a source that states baldly ...and he was a communist socialist and republican, or something. I mean, I'm sure he must have been, since he went out with Ryan, Ryan was acting on behalf of the CPI, and the CPI would let anyone join them if they didn't share their political views, so the obvious assumption is that he must have done. But that's too many assumptions to stomach! And the article doesn't actually mention communism at all, except for the Party. So, I think a page move is in order. Would that break these DYK links if done now? ——Serial Number 54129 16:52, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply

References

^ McGarry, F. (1999). Irish Politics and the Spanish Civil War. Cork: Cork University Press. p. 54. ISBN 978-1-85918-239-0.
^ DIFP (2024). "Documents on Irish Foreign Policy: Volume 5". Documents on Irish Foreign Policy. Retrieved 2024-03-07.
^ Stradling, R. A. (1999). The Irish and the Spanish Civil War, 1936–39: Crusades in Conflict. Manchester University Press. p. 151. ISBN 978-1-90134-113-3.
^ DIFP (2024). "Documents on Irish Foreign Policy: Volume 5". Documents on Irish Foreign Policy. Retrieved 2024-03-07.
^ Stradling, R. A. (1999). The Irish and the Spanish Civil War, 1936–39: Crusades in Conflict. Manchester University Press. p. 151. ISBN 978-1-90134-113-3.
^ Stradling, R. A. (1999). The Irish and the Spanish Civil War, 1936–39: Crusades in Conflict. Manchester University Press. p. 151. ISBN 978-1-90134-113-3.
^ DIFP (2024). "Documents on Irish Foreign Policy: Volume 5". Documents on Irish Foreign Policy. Retrieved 2024-03-07.
^ Stradling, R. A. (1999). The Irish and the Spanish Civil War, 1936–39: Crusades in Conflict. Manchester University Press. p. 151. ISBN 978-1-90134-113-3.

I don't know enough about the technical aspects to say whether a page move would cause issues. My thought would be (International Brigades) as a disambiguator since that's what he was known for. ( t · c) buidhe 21:19, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Good, Buidhe and I agree so. I think I caught all the incoming links. ——Serial Number 54129 14:24, 15 March 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Buidhe: Forgot to mention, I think your choice of ALT3 is right—the others are pretty much saying the same thing (re. his age), and the second might offend the Brits :) but the shortness of his service is stark (plus, added a link to the IB, for clarity). ——Serial Number 54129 14:51, 17 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Serial Number 54129: Not so fast. I apologise if this is news to you, but we have been in backlog mode since 8 March, which means that users with more than 20 credits are required to complete two QPQs for all nominations after this date. Please complete a second QPQ.-- Laun chba ller 20:52, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply

If that's the only issue, then this is good to go.-- Laun chba ller 09:40, 18 March 2024 (UTC) reply

[1] McGarry, F. (1999). Irish Politics and the Spanish Civil War. Cork: Cork University Press. p. 54. ISBN 978-1-85918-239-0.

[2] DIFP (2024). "Documents on Irish Foreign Policy: Volume 5". Documents on Irish Foreign Policy. Retrieved 2024-03-07.

[3] Stradling, R. A. (1999). The Irish and the Spanish Civil War, 1936–39: Crusades in Conflict. Manchester University Press. p. 151. ISBN 978-1-90134-113-3.

[4] DIFP (2024). "Documents on Irish Foreign Policy: Volume 5". Documents on Irish Foreign Policy. Retrieved 2024-03-07.

[5] Stradling, R. A. (1999). The Irish and the Spanish Civil War, 1936–39: Crusades in Conflict. Manchester University Press. p. 151. ISBN 978-1-90134-113-3.

[6] Stradling, R. A. (1999). The Irish and the Spanish Civil War, 1936–39: Crusades in Conflict. Manchester University Press. p. 151. ISBN 978-1-90134-113-3.

[7] DIFP (2024). "Documents on Irish Foreign Policy: Volume 5". Documents on Irish Foreign Policy. Retrieved 2024-03-07.

[8] Stradling, R. A. (1999). The Irish and the Spanish Civil War, 1936–39: Crusades in Conflict. Manchester University Press. p. 151. ISBN 978-1-90134-113-3.

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