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I don't think that scoring two goals in the group stage of the World Cup is an event that merits being added to the international career part of his biography, beautiful as the goal may be. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yonatanh ( talk • contribs)
I do. It would be one of the highlights of any footballer's career. SLUMGUM yap stalk 00:04, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
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Yeah there is no doubt that this should be on there, it is the undoubted highlight of his career to date.
[1] [2] SLUMGUM yap stalk 13:19, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Having only "Arsenal statistics" smacks of a an Arsenal fan who has come into the article and done the easy and soft option of just adding the arsenal stuff. SHould be expanded. Niall123 21:51, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Rosicky plays as left central midfielder, on left is usually van persie or ljungberg, and he is definitelly not winger and Hleb neither, Arsenal dont use wings so much.
Rosicky chleb in Czech means a type of sliced bread you use for making toast. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.160.221.174 ( talk) 19:50, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Can someone please add this becuase I'm not sure how to do it correctly.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=417390&cc=5739
He was fined when he was on international duty for spending the night with some prostitutes.
Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Uboat ( talk • contribs) 20:05, 29 March 2007 (UTC).
Sentences like "he is regarded as" and "he is known for" don't carry much weight, they are also discouraged on Wikipedia: See Wikipedia:Avoid weasel words. I've deleted the most obvious one. It would be better to get quotes from experts in the game (Wenger must have said lots of things) to replace these unsubstanciatable claims. Thehalfone 16:02, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
Also the description of him isn't NPOV and needs to be rewritten by someone who isn't his publicist.
why is there no mention of his love of prostitutes?
And also his rumoured drug problem? I'm going to look into it. JFBurton ( talk) 10:01, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
The hardest edits to remove are the ones where an editor is trying to help a favorite subject, and to help Wiki! The link in Czech isn't helpful, because most English Wiki readers do not speak Czech, and editors cannot verify the information. See WP:NONENG. An exception might be when there is no English available, but in this case, the official English site is already in the External links. The other link to the "English unofficial website" is mostly an advertising site with other subjects. It is a problem for several reasons, see WP:LINKSTOAVOID. So, keep up the good work, but those External links are not appropriate. Piano non troppo ( talk) 03:08, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
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Club career
Rosický began his career at AC Sparta Prague, following his father Jiří and brother, also called Jiří who had previously represented the club: any years for either father or brother, caps, goals?
Tomáš debuted for Sparta in 1998: from where? Academy, signed from another club?
He scored five goals in the 1999–2000 season as the team won the league for the second year in succession.[4][5] He was named the "Talent of the Year" at the 1999 Czech Footballer of the Year awards.[5]Perhaps "He scored five goals in the 1999–2000 season as the team won the league for the second year in succession,[4][5] and as a result was named the "Talent of the Year" at the 1999 Czech Footballer of the Year awards.[5]"
a Bundesliga recordcost from BBC ref you use?
the most expensive Czech player of all time: the ref says he was the "Czech Republic's most expensive footballing export", which seems different (to me)
being the first player to have a shot on target in the match: trivia?
During his first two and a half seasons with the club, Rosický played 75 league matches, scoring nine goals and registering 20 assists: where are you getting this from?
Rosický's reputation grew during his time at Dortmund and, during the latter stages of his spell at the club, Dortmund were in substantial financial trouble and could not hold onto him despite recognising his influence on the team. Press reports linked him with big money transfers to Real Madrid, Atlético Madrid, Tottenham Hotspur, Chelsea, and Arsenal. Rosický expressed a desire for Dortmund to allow him to leave at the end of the 2005–06 season, and the arrival of South African Steven Pienaar was made in preparation for Rosický's departureplease source the paragraph
On 23 May 2006, Arsenal confirmed that they had signed then 25-year-old Rosický on a long-term contractadd 'for an undisclosed fee'
On 6 January 2007, he scored twice against Liverpool at Anfield in the FA Cup: final score?
He finished his debut season at Arsenal having scored six goals in 37 appearances for the club in all competitions: does this need a ref?
scoring what Phil Harlow: 'scoring what the BBC journalist Phil Harlow'
pre-season match against Barnet in July 2009'pre-season friendly', and add score
scored the second goal: the second goal or Arsenal's second?
against Everton to give Arsenal a point: I'm not sure you need to say they got a point, you haven't for any of the other games he played in
resultantly scored the solitary goal of their league match against Liverpool: final score?
Rosický finished the season with a total of three goals in 33 appearances in all club competitions: ref?
At the end of the campaign, Rosický had scored one goal and made 34 appearances in all competitions for the Gunners: ref?
Arsenal had been losing by two goals but Rosický scored Arsenal's third as Arsenal went on to win 5–2: a little confusing
against Milan: Inter Milan or AC Milan, and wikilink
the Hawthorns: capital 'T'?
He managed 16 competitive appearances for Arsenal, scoring three times in the 2012–13 season: ref?
Sorry for the fact that my on wiki time at the minute varies quite a bit, but hopefully its all downhill from here. Thanks for your review, which I'll try and resolve soon, Mat ty. 007 12:47, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
I have addressed all your points. Thanks, C 679 08:17, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
In August 2006, Rosický was made captain of the Czech Republic national side, replacing the retiring Pavel Nedvěd in advance of the UEFA Euro 2008 qualifying process.[74] His last appearance of the qualifying campaign was against Slovakia in November 2007.[75]: merge paras?
Rosický missed Euro 2008 due to injury, announcing his absence in May 2008.[33] He returned to international football when he started for the Czech Republic on 9 September 2009, in a World Cup qualifier against San Marino, following a 20 month absence due to injury.[75] On 9 February 2011, he started in an international friendly match against Croatia at Stadion Maksimir, and scored a goal in the 45th minute in a 4–2 defeat.
In August 2006, Rosický was made captain of the Czech Republic national side, replacing the retiring Pavel Nedvěd in advance of the UEFA Euro 2008 qualifying process: results (i.e. how many won, drawn, lost)
The last of these was the winning goal in the second leg of the Czech Republic's play-off against Norway to ensure qualification for the finals: score?
part in the first game due to suspension: score?
He played in his nation's first two matches at Euro 2000 during Patrik Berger's international suspension before Berger replaced him ahead of the Czech Republic's final game, against Denmark: scores?
Sorry for asking for lots of scores... Thanks, Mat ty. 007 16:16, 23 June 2014 (UTC) I have addressed all of that. Thanks, C 679 19:04, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Tomas? No accent?
Announcing 2012's contract extension: "announcing Rosicky's 2012 contract extension"
Arsenal manager Wenger described Rosický as having "great technique, skill on the ball and sharp passing".[9] Upon signing a contract extension in 2010, Wenger called him a "special talent" and said "Tomas' vision and touch is remarkable".[38] Announcing 2012's contract extension, Wenger called him "technically top class".[51] Wenger said of Rosický: 'He is a real Arsenal man because he is here for a long time. He is really a football player who presents the way we want to play football, because he's a team player who has pace, has a quick brain, understands the game well, and I always like to have him in the team because of all these qualities.' [80]Here there are 5 Wenger quotes. This isn't really adding much, he's his manager, he's going to sing his praises (unless he's calling them old). Remove one or two at least and find some more neutral reviews I think
The Guardian: wikilink?
His son, also named Tomáš, was born to girlfriend Radka Kocurová in June 2013.: I'm guessing you mean this guy's son, not his dad's: make it clearer
He is reported to be a proficient guitarist, and has played live with Tři sestry.: he either is or isn't, what does the source say? Also, please can you say something about Tři sestry being a band?
Rosický was able to hone his guitar skills during his 18 months on the sidelines because of his hamstring injury: perhaps merge with previous sentence?
Oh, and [8] which you are using as a reference has a fee for his transfer to Arsenal, is it an estimate? Thanks, Mat ty. 007 18:11, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
Arsenal manager Arsène Wenger has described him as a player with remarkable vision, precision and first touch.a quote.
transfer fee paid by a Bundesliga club: perhaps amount?
Mobile edit: pass. Mat ty. 007 22:57, 28 June 2014 (UTC) Congratulations! Thanks, Mat ty. 007 08:35, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
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I don't think that scoring two goals in the group stage of the World Cup is an event that merits being added to the international career part of his biography, beautiful as the goal may be. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yonatanh ( talk • contribs)
I do. It would be one of the highlights of any footballer's career. SLUMGUM yap stalk 00:04, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
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Yeah there is no doubt that this should be on there, it is the undoubted highlight of his career to date.
[1] [2] SLUMGUM yap stalk 13:19, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Having only "Arsenal statistics" smacks of a an Arsenal fan who has come into the article and done the easy and soft option of just adding the arsenal stuff. SHould be expanded. Niall123 21:51, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Rosicky plays as left central midfielder, on left is usually van persie or ljungberg, and he is definitelly not winger and Hleb neither, Arsenal dont use wings so much.
Rosicky chleb in Czech means a type of sliced bread you use for making toast. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.160.221.174 ( talk) 19:50, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Can someone please add this becuase I'm not sure how to do it correctly.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=417390&cc=5739
He was fined when he was on international duty for spending the night with some prostitutes.
Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Uboat ( talk • contribs) 20:05, 29 March 2007 (UTC).
Sentences like "he is regarded as" and "he is known for" don't carry much weight, they are also discouraged on Wikipedia: See Wikipedia:Avoid weasel words. I've deleted the most obvious one. It would be better to get quotes from experts in the game (Wenger must have said lots of things) to replace these unsubstanciatable claims. Thehalfone 16:02, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
Also the description of him isn't NPOV and needs to be rewritten by someone who isn't his publicist.
why is there no mention of his love of prostitutes?
And also his rumoured drug problem? I'm going to look into it. JFBurton ( talk) 10:01, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
The hardest edits to remove are the ones where an editor is trying to help a favorite subject, and to help Wiki! The link in Czech isn't helpful, because most English Wiki readers do not speak Czech, and editors cannot verify the information. See WP:NONENG. An exception might be when there is no English available, but in this case, the official English site is already in the External links. The other link to the "English unofficial website" is mostly an advertising site with other subjects. It is a problem for several reasons, see WP:LINKSTOAVOID. So, keep up the good work, but those External links are not appropriate. Piano non troppo ( talk) 03:08, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
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I'll take this on, and try and review it swiftly. Tables are my thing, so that's how the overview will be, comments below the table. Thanks, Mat ty. 007 17:54, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
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1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct. | ||
1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation. | ||
2. Verifiable with no original research: | ||
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline. | ||
2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose). | ||
2c. it contains no original research. | ||
3. Broad in its coverage: | ||
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic. | ||
3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style). | ||
4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each. | ||
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute. | ||
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Club career
Rosický began his career at AC Sparta Prague, following his father Jiří and brother, also called Jiří who had previously represented the club: any years for either father or brother, caps, goals?
Tomáš debuted for Sparta in 1998: from where? Academy, signed from another club?
He scored five goals in the 1999–2000 season as the team won the league for the second year in succession.[4][5] He was named the "Talent of the Year" at the 1999 Czech Footballer of the Year awards.[5]Perhaps "He scored five goals in the 1999–2000 season as the team won the league for the second year in succession,[4][5] and as a result was named the "Talent of the Year" at the 1999 Czech Footballer of the Year awards.[5]"
a Bundesliga recordcost from BBC ref you use?
the most expensive Czech player of all time: the ref says he was the "Czech Republic's most expensive footballing export", which seems different (to me)
being the first player to have a shot on target in the match: trivia?
During his first two and a half seasons with the club, Rosický played 75 league matches, scoring nine goals and registering 20 assists: where are you getting this from?
Rosický's reputation grew during his time at Dortmund and, during the latter stages of his spell at the club, Dortmund were in substantial financial trouble and could not hold onto him despite recognising his influence on the team. Press reports linked him with big money transfers to Real Madrid, Atlético Madrid, Tottenham Hotspur, Chelsea, and Arsenal. Rosický expressed a desire for Dortmund to allow him to leave at the end of the 2005–06 season, and the arrival of South African Steven Pienaar was made in preparation for Rosický's departureplease source the paragraph
On 23 May 2006, Arsenal confirmed that they had signed then 25-year-old Rosický on a long-term contractadd 'for an undisclosed fee'
On 6 January 2007, he scored twice against Liverpool at Anfield in the FA Cup: final score?
He finished his debut season at Arsenal having scored six goals in 37 appearances for the club in all competitions: does this need a ref?
scoring what Phil Harlow: 'scoring what the BBC journalist Phil Harlow'
pre-season match against Barnet in July 2009'pre-season friendly', and add score
scored the second goal: the second goal or Arsenal's second?
against Everton to give Arsenal a point: I'm not sure you need to say they got a point, you haven't for any of the other games he played in
resultantly scored the solitary goal of their league match against Liverpool: final score?
Rosický finished the season with a total of three goals in 33 appearances in all club competitions: ref?
At the end of the campaign, Rosický had scored one goal and made 34 appearances in all competitions for the Gunners: ref?
Arsenal had been losing by two goals but Rosický scored Arsenal's third as Arsenal went on to win 5–2: a little confusing
against Milan: Inter Milan or AC Milan, and wikilink
the Hawthorns: capital 'T'?
He managed 16 competitive appearances for Arsenal, scoring three times in the 2012–13 season: ref?
Sorry for the fact that my on wiki time at the minute varies quite a bit, but hopefully its all downhill from here. Thanks for your review, which I'll try and resolve soon, Mat ty. 007 12:47, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
I have addressed all your points. Thanks, C 679 08:17, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
In August 2006, Rosický was made captain of the Czech Republic national side, replacing the retiring Pavel Nedvěd in advance of the UEFA Euro 2008 qualifying process.[74] His last appearance of the qualifying campaign was against Slovakia in November 2007.[75]: merge paras?
Rosický missed Euro 2008 due to injury, announcing his absence in May 2008.[33] He returned to international football when he started for the Czech Republic on 9 September 2009, in a World Cup qualifier against San Marino, following a 20 month absence due to injury.[75] On 9 February 2011, he started in an international friendly match against Croatia at Stadion Maksimir, and scored a goal in the 45th minute in a 4–2 defeat.
In August 2006, Rosický was made captain of the Czech Republic national side, replacing the retiring Pavel Nedvěd in advance of the UEFA Euro 2008 qualifying process: results (i.e. how many won, drawn, lost)
The last of these was the winning goal in the second leg of the Czech Republic's play-off against Norway to ensure qualification for the finals: score?
part in the first game due to suspension: score?
He played in his nation's first two matches at Euro 2000 during Patrik Berger's international suspension before Berger replaced him ahead of the Czech Republic's final game, against Denmark: scores?
Sorry for asking for lots of scores... Thanks, Mat ty. 007 16:16, 23 June 2014 (UTC) I have addressed all of that. Thanks, C 679 19:04, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Tomas? No accent?
Announcing 2012's contract extension: "announcing Rosicky's 2012 contract extension"
Arsenal manager Wenger described Rosický as having "great technique, skill on the ball and sharp passing".[9] Upon signing a contract extension in 2010, Wenger called him a "special talent" and said "Tomas' vision and touch is remarkable".[38] Announcing 2012's contract extension, Wenger called him "technically top class".[51] Wenger said of Rosický: 'He is a real Arsenal man because he is here for a long time. He is really a football player who presents the way we want to play football, because he's a team player who has pace, has a quick brain, understands the game well, and I always like to have him in the team because of all these qualities.' [80]Here there are 5 Wenger quotes. This isn't really adding much, he's his manager, he's going to sing his praises (unless he's calling them old). Remove one or two at least and find some more neutral reviews I think
The Guardian: wikilink?
His son, also named Tomáš, was born to girlfriend Radka Kocurová in June 2013.: I'm guessing you mean this guy's son, not his dad's: make it clearer
He is reported to be a proficient guitarist, and has played live with Tři sestry.: he either is or isn't, what does the source say? Also, please can you say something about Tři sestry being a band?
Rosický was able to hone his guitar skills during his 18 months on the sidelines because of his hamstring injury: perhaps merge with previous sentence?
Oh, and [8] which you are using as a reference has a fee for his transfer to Arsenal, is it an estimate? Thanks, Mat ty. 007 18:11, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
Arsenal manager Arsène Wenger has described him as a player with remarkable vision, precision and first touch.a quote.
transfer fee paid by a Bundesliga club: perhaps amount?
Mobile edit: pass. Mat ty. 007 22:57, 28 June 2014 (UTC) Congratulations! Thanks, Mat ty. 007 08:35, 29 June 2014 (UTC)