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I have reverted a change from {{ infobox ethnic group}} to {{ infobox country}}, because the topic of this article is not a former country, but a people, who lived in several city-states. Kanguole 19:30, 12 February 2023 (UTC) reply

The general date/period at which Tocharian ceases to be spoken/Tocharians assimilate to a degree sufficient to be considered ethnically part of their suzerains is unclear.

Maybe a bit more clarity here would help, specifically around the Tang dynasty section? Tuvalu Pareto ( talk) 02:21, 7 March 2023 (UTC) reply

Genetics

Somebody suggested that "... A leading contender is the Afanasievo culture, ..." as origin of the Tocharians. To my humble knowledge this is impossible because the Afanasevo is R1b, while Xiaohe, for example is overwhelmingly R1a (Data from Quiles allancientdna). I wonder who has any genetic different evidence. HJJHolm ( talk) 07:13, 3 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Only if one assumes that the Xiaohe people were Tocharian speakers. However, the Tocharians were of a different place and time. Kanguole 07:40, 3 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Centum/Satem map

This map is misleading. Since decennia, the centum /Satem is a feature, however not a genealogical measure for the subdivision of Indo-Europeans, but late phonological developments. See any modern textbook. 2A02:8108:9640:1A68:C090:491D:7BBC:BCD7 ( talk) 05:53, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

infobox

I have reverted a change from {{ infobox ethnic group}} to {{ infobox country}}, because the topic of this article is not a former country, but a people, who lived in several city-states. Kanguole 19:30, 12 February 2023 (UTC) reply

The general date/period at which Tocharian ceases to be spoken/Tocharians assimilate to a degree sufficient to be considered ethnically part of their suzerains is unclear.

Maybe a bit more clarity here would help, specifically around the Tang dynasty section? Tuvalu Pareto ( talk) 02:21, 7 March 2023 (UTC) reply

Genetics

Somebody suggested that "... A leading contender is the Afanasievo culture, ..." as origin of the Tocharians. To my humble knowledge this is impossible because the Afanasevo is R1b, while Xiaohe, for example is overwhelmingly R1a (Data from Quiles allancientdna). I wonder who has any genetic different evidence. HJJHolm ( talk) 07:13, 3 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Only if one assumes that the Xiaohe people were Tocharian speakers. However, the Tocharians were of a different place and time. Kanguole 07:40, 3 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Centum/Satem map

This map is misleading. Since decennia, the centum /Satem is a feature, however not a genealogical measure for the subdivision of Indo-Europeans, but late phonological developments. See any modern textbook. 2A02:8108:9640:1A68:C090:491D:7BBC:BCD7 ( talk) 05:53, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply


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