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Some text taken from public domain USPTO source at http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/com/speeches/01-46.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Anome ( talk • contribs) 12:41, 15 January 2004
Copeman invented the electric stove before the toaster; I fixed that and included a reference to the information. I don't know that he invented the first flexible ice cube tray, thus I think using the phrase "invented THE flexible ice cube tray" would be better as "invented a flexible ice cube tray". Benthatsme 22:29, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
any idea why we even MADE an article on toasters? just asking. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SmartyPantsKid ( talk • contribs) 22:15, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
This article has been vandalized, but I don't know what the original text was to fix it. Someone please revert. AeoniosHaplo 10:34, 18 March 2007 (UTC) OMGGGGGGGGGGGG! UGLY PEOPLE! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.172.70.180 ( talk) 23:59, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
More recent additions to toaster technology include the ability to toast frozen bread, automatic toast lowering with no lever to push, a mode to toast the cut side of a bagel only, separate operation levers to allow users to toast either two or four slices, and reheating functions which allow toast to be warmed without being burned.
this sounds like a refererence to the sunbeam toastamatic ..it does all this but it also automatically lowered bread when first released in the 1960s...todays unit is a reproduction of their origional 1960's unit. not a recent addition!
A typical modern 2-slice toaster uses about 900w power and makes toast in 13 minutes.
Does anyone else find the idea that toast takes 13 minutes to make a bit strange?
MSTCrow 22:51, Jan 24, 2005 (UTC)
Well,
I assume a 1000W toaster - 2min - each morning as sugested
this gives 33 W.h for only one use. Maybe used twice or more each morning, so, well, let's say 100 W.h each morning
Let's say... well, 20 million people each morning for the example (will be more for real). This gives 2 billion W.h
or a mean-power of 1000 MW while 2 hours (if this country take the breakfast during this range) every day
Well, this insignifiant energy need about 2 hours of a full-powered small nuclear station's power each morning ! And maybe more because there are much more toasters in the world. Only for having the bread toasted: well, I suggest to delete the insignificant word.
A sweet candy's packaging is nothing. Collected it needs a city dump.
Why was this section removed?
I don't think the energy calculation is right. Toasters probably don't heat the bread to 100 C. On the other hand, reducing the water content from 35% to 10% means vaporizing 25% (8g reduction, if the starting point is 32g). The energy needed is the heat of vaporization of 8g of water, 2260 J/g or about 18 kJ. The bread does get heated as well, but I don't know to what typical temperature.
If toast is stuck in a toaster [...] it is highly recommended that one does not attempt to free it by inserting metal objects such as knives, due to the risk of electric shock. The toasters I know use calrods and shouldn't give me an electric shock when putting an conductor on this heating element. I can't say for sure, but I guess all toasters nowadays make it impossible to be confronted to such risk. -- Abdull 22:52, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
This toaster-related joke is always popular in the software engineering community.
Atlant 14:56, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Once upon a time, in a kingdom not far from here, a king summoned two of his advisors to test them. He showed them both a shiny metal box, with two slots in the top, a control knob, and a lever. He asked his advisors, "What do you think this is?"
One advisor, who happened to be an engineer, answered first. "It is a toaster," he said.
The king asked, "How would you design an embedded computer for it?"
The engineer replied,
The second advisor, a computer scientist, immediately recognized the danger of such short-sighted thinking. He said,
The king wisely had the computer scientist thrown in the moat.
"Toasters are very common sample peripherals for device drivers" - is this nonsense that has avoided deletion? It's confusing. If it's not a hoax, it needs more explanation, or a citation or something. How does the toaster connect to the computer? Can we have a picture of this? Lupine Proletariat 12:49, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't there be something about how even in modern kitchens a toaster is a common culprit for tripping the circuit breaker?
I removed the line in the second paragraph about watt-seconds. Please don't randomly use Google Calculator to look smart. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.131.4.91 ( talk • contribs).
I think that the pic where you can see the photographer taking the photo in the nude reflected on the toaster should be in this article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Notsharon ( talk • contribs) 04:07, 7 May 2007 (UTC).
why? just why? Patchiman ( talk) 01:36, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
Why was this word used? is it even a word? Can someone change it? Eonut 00:12, 30 July 2007 (UTC) Eonut
Toaster oven redirects here, but there's no photo of a toaster oven. We need one. Badagnani ( talk) 21:21, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
What would be an estimated cost to toast two slices of bread? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.127.23.22 ( talk) 01:00, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
yeah i think toaster oven should have it's own article ...it's completely different than a toaster and has much different uses than it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.107.206.38 ( talk) 04:12, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
I reverted obvious vandalism. Britbrat0325 ( talk) 17:01, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
The Wikipedia page on toasters is adequate. Given the topic, I think there is enough information for the average reader to gain as much knowledge as he or she would want to know about toasters. The article is well written and thoroughly describes the evolution of the toaster as a modern appliance.
The article begins with a very brief and uninformative introduction. “The toaster is typically a small electric kitchen appliance designed to toast multiple types of bread products.” Although Wikipedia provides a link to “toast,” and most people know the basic principle of the toaster, this is not a very good opening sentence. Perhaps substitute this opening for, “the toaster is a kitchen appliance designed to brown and crisp multiple types of bread products”. Though I am being very critical, it is elementary to define a word with itself.
After the introduction, the article progresses into the history of the toaster. The history was broken up into three sections: before the pop-up toaster, advent of the pop-up toaster, and later 20th century and beyond. I found this to be both an accurate and amusing way of defining the “eras” of the toaster. The article does a good job providing specific dates and inventors for each modification. In some cases, this information is supported by patents or scholarly journals. Other times however, the article cites websites like the “cyber toast museum” and blogs. That is not to say that this information is incorrect, it is simply lacking an authoritative source.
Following the history, the article describes a few different types of toasters, indicating their specific designs and functions. The article does a great job describing the somewhat complex technology of toasters on a simplified level, making it easy for any reader to understand. Having said that, most the information in this section is not cited. Although most of the information sounds credible, I am not an expert on toasters and cannot confirm or deny any of the claims made. Furthermore, the article would benefit from more illustrations. Although there are pictures of different toasters through the years, most readers would appreciate a diagram depicting the inner-workings of the toaster as described in the article. The images provided, however, do give the reader an idea of how the toaster has changed cosmetically through the years.
Based on the history of this article there was a significant amount of vandalism in the past. Yet the current article has been edited and seems free of any frivolous contributions. Overall Wikipedia has done a good job in its summary of the toaster. Most encyclopedias would have simply stated the uses of the toaster and how it works. Conversely, Wikipedia describes the evolution of a pre-modern toaster to the household appliance we know today. Additionally, Wikipedia provides links to many inventors, companies, cities, and scientific terms that can provide the reader with even more information. Though a traditional encyclopedia may reference these items, the simplicity and comprehensiveness of Wikipedia makes it a valuable resource.
02:37, 4 October 2011 (UTC)HIST406-11Rgreen13 — Preceding unsigned comment added by HIST406-11Rgreen13 ( talk • contribs)
I'm not sure that the attribution or credit for the first electric toaster is accurate. Are there any sources verifying Maddy Kennedy as the inventor? LtPuppyduck ( talk) 05:57, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
All in capitals and dead links everywhere. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.221.245 ( talk) 20:43, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
Toasting technology after 1940s was deleted, presumably for being entirely unsourced. The content would be great if it were paired with citations. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:46, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
I added in the "See Also" a ref to Dualit. I do not work for Dualit, I just own one, I have no commmercial interest in Dualit. I just thought it was worth a ref in the see also but no more than that. If you disagree, please take it out. Si Trew ( talk) 05:47, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Just real quickly here: I'm 51, which means for over 40 years I've been toasting stuff, including English muffins cut in half. The first part of the article seems to imply that only in the 2000's were toasters able to handle English muffins cut in half. They have been able to handle them all my life, so the statement should be corrected. Thanks. 71.139.161.36 ( talk) 03:14, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
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First sentence of the artcle:
A toaster, or a toast maker, is a small electric appliance designed to brown or "sing[e]" sliced bread.
What the hell does that mean? Why the quotation marks, why the square brackets round the e, why the link to an article about slang meanings of the word toast? Shall I remove it? 86.20.66.253 ( talk) 20:05, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
I obviously feel that the 1947 Kenwood A100 hinged turnover toaster, the company's first product, ought to get a mention in the history of toasters ;-) http://johnlewis.scene7.com/is/image/JohnLewis/kenwood_cat_280113_2 Johnalexwood ( talk) 13:21, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
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Some text taken from public domain USPTO source at http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/com/speeches/01-46.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Anome ( talk • contribs) 12:41, 15 January 2004
Copeman invented the electric stove before the toaster; I fixed that and included a reference to the information. I don't know that he invented the first flexible ice cube tray, thus I think using the phrase "invented THE flexible ice cube tray" would be better as "invented a flexible ice cube tray". Benthatsme 22:29, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
any idea why we even MADE an article on toasters? just asking. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SmartyPantsKid ( talk • contribs) 22:15, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
This article has been vandalized, but I don't know what the original text was to fix it. Someone please revert. AeoniosHaplo 10:34, 18 March 2007 (UTC) OMGGGGGGGGGGGG! UGLY PEOPLE! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.172.70.180 ( talk) 23:59, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
More recent additions to toaster technology include the ability to toast frozen bread, automatic toast lowering with no lever to push, a mode to toast the cut side of a bagel only, separate operation levers to allow users to toast either two or four slices, and reheating functions which allow toast to be warmed without being burned.
this sounds like a refererence to the sunbeam toastamatic ..it does all this but it also automatically lowered bread when first released in the 1960s...todays unit is a reproduction of their origional 1960's unit. not a recent addition!
A typical modern 2-slice toaster uses about 900w power and makes toast in 13 minutes.
Does anyone else find the idea that toast takes 13 minutes to make a bit strange?
MSTCrow 22:51, Jan 24, 2005 (UTC)
Well,
I assume a 1000W toaster - 2min - each morning as sugested
this gives 33 W.h for only one use. Maybe used twice or more each morning, so, well, let's say 100 W.h each morning
Let's say... well, 20 million people each morning for the example (will be more for real). This gives 2 billion W.h
or a mean-power of 1000 MW while 2 hours (if this country take the breakfast during this range) every day
Well, this insignifiant energy need about 2 hours of a full-powered small nuclear station's power each morning ! And maybe more because there are much more toasters in the world. Only for having the bread toasted: well, I suggest to delete the insignificant word.
A sweet candy's packaging is nothing. Collected it needs a city dump.
Why was this section removed?
I don't think the energy calculation is right. Toasters probably don't heat the bread to 100 C. On the other hand, reducing the water content from 35% to 10% means vaporizing 25% (8g reduction, if the starting point is 32g). The energy needed is the heat of vaporization of 8g of water, 2260 J/g or about 18 kJ. The bread does get heated as well, but I don't know to what typical temperature.
If toast is stuck in a toaster [...] it is highly recommended that one does not attempt to free it by inserting metal objects such as knives, due to the risk of electric shock. The toasters I know use calrods and shouldn't give me an electric shock when putting an conductor on this heating element. I can't say for sure, but I guess all toasters nowadays make it impossible to be confronted to such risk. -- Abdull 22:52, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
This toaster-related joke is always popular in the software engineering community.
Atlant 14:56, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Once upon a time, in a kingdom not far from here, a king summoned two of his advisors to test them. He showed them both a shiny metal box, with two slots in the top, a control knob, and a lever. He asked his advisors, "What do you think this is?"
One advisor, who happened to be an engineer, answered first. "It is a toaster," he said.
The king asked, "How would you design an embedded computer for it?"
The engineer replied,
The second advisor, a computer scientist, immediately recognized the danger of such short-sighted thinking. He said,
The king wisely had the computer scientist thrown in the moat.
"Toasters are very common sample peripherals for device drivers" - is this nonsense that has avoided deletion? It's confusing. If it's not a hoax, it needs more explanation, or a citation or something. How does the toaster connect to the computer? Can we have a picture of this? Lupine Proletariat 12:49, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't there be something about how even in modern kitchens a toaster is a common culprit for tripping the circuit breaker?
I removed the line in the second paragraph about watt-seconds. Please don't randomly use Google Calculator to look smart. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.131.4.91 ( talk • contribs).
I think that the pic where you can see the photographer taking the photo in the nude reflected on the toaster should be in this article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Notsharon ( talk • contribs) 04:07, 7 May 2007 (UTC).
why? just why? Patchiman ( talk) 01:36, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
Why was this word used? is it even a word? Can someone change it? Eonut 00:12, 30 July 2007 (UTC) Eonut
Toaster oven redirects here, but there's no photo of a toaster oven. We need one. Badagnani ( talk) 21:21, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
What would be an estimated cost to toast two slices of bread? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.127.23.22 ( talk) 01:00, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
yeah i think toaster oven should have it's own article ...it's completely different than a toaster and has much different uses than it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.107.206.38 ( talk) 04:12, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
I reverted obvious vandalism. Britbrat0325 ( talk) 17:01, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
The Wikipedia page on toasters is adequate. Given the topic, I think there is enough information for the average reader to gain as much knowledge as he or she would want to know about toasters. The article is well written and thoroughly describes the evolution of the toaster as a modern appliance.
The article begins with a very brief and uninformative introduction. “The toaster is typically a small electric kitchen appliance designed to toast multiple types of bread products.” Although Wikipedia provides a link to “toast,” and most people know the basic principle of the toaster, this is not a very good opening sentence. Perhaps substitute this opening for, “the toaster is a kitchen appliance designed to brown and crisp multiple types of bread products”. Though I am being very critical, it is elementary to define a word with itself.
After the introduction, the article progresses into the history of the toaster. The history was broken up into three sections: before the pop-up toaster, advent of the pop-up toaster, and later 20th century and beyond. I found this to be both an accurate and amusing way of defining the “eras” of the toaster. The article does a good job providing specific dates and inventors for each modification. In some cases, this information is supported by patents or scholarly journals. Other times however, the article cites websites like the “cyber toast museum” and blogs. That is not to say that this information is incorrect, it is simply lacking an authoritative source.
Following the history, the article describes a few different types of toasters, indicating their specific designs and functions. The article does a great job describing the somewhat complex technology of toasters on a simplified level, making it easy for any reader to understand. Having said that, most the information in this section is not cited. Although most of the information sounds credible, I am not an expert on toasters and cannot confirm or deny any of the claims made. Furthermore, the article would benefit from more illustrations. Although there are pictures of different toasters through the years, most readers would appreciate a diagram depicting the inner-workings of the toaster as described in the article. The images provided, however, do give the reader an idea of how the toaster has changed cosmetically through the years.
Based on the history of this article there was a significant amount of vandalism in the past. Yet the current article has been edited and seems free of any frivolous contributions. Overall Wikipedia has done a good job in its summary of the toaster. Most encyclopedias would have simply stated the uses of the toaster and how it works. Conversely, Wikipedia describes the evolution of a pre-modern toaster to the household appliance we know today. Additionally, Wikipedia provides links to many inventors, companies, cities, and scientific terms that can provide the reader with even more information. Though a traditional encyclopedia may reference these items, the simplicity and comprehensiveness of Wikipedia makes it a valuable resource.
02:37, 4 October 2011 (UTC)HIST406-11Rgreen13 — Preceding unsigned comment added by HIST406-11Rgreen13 ( talk • contribs)
I'm not sure that the attribution or credit for the first electric toaster is accurate. Are there any sources verifying Maddy Kennedy as the inventor? LtPuppyduck ( talk) 05:57, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
All in capitals and dead links everywhere. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.221.245 ( talk) 20:43, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
Toasting technology after 1940s was deleted, presumably for being entirely unsourced. The content would be great if it were paired with citations. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:46, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
I added in the "See Also" a ref to Dualit. I do not work for Dualit, I just own one, I have no commmercial interest in Dualit. I just thought it was worth a ref in the see also but no more than that. If you disagree, please take it out. Si Trew ( talk) 05:47, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Just real quickly here: I'm 51, which means for over 40 years I've been toasting stuff, including English muffins cut in half. The first part of the article seems to imply that only in the 2000's were toasters able to handle English muffins cut in half. They have been able to handle them all my life, so the statement should be corrected. Thanks. 71.139.161.36 ( talk) 03:14, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
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Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 03:51, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
First sentence of the artcle:
A toaster, or a toast maker, is a small electric appliance designed to brown or "sing[e]" sliced bread.
What the hell does that mean? Why the quotation marks, why the square brackets round the e, why the link to an article about slang meanings of the word toast? Shall I remove it? 86.20.66.253 ( talk) 20:05, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
I obviously feel that the 1947 Kenwood A100 hinged turnover toaster, the company's first product, ought to get a mention in the history of toasters ;-) http://johnlewis.scene7.com/is/image/JohnLewis/kenwood_cat_280113_2 Johnalexwood ( talk) 13:21, 10 October 2016 (UTC)