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The 2005 Japanese album is only a redirect at present but "exists" per WP:NCM. In ictu oculi ( talk) 23:24, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved as there is no consensus. Note to Maranofan – you should not remove comments from IPs (as you did here) during a debate. Number 5 7 13:02, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
I think that this article is the WP:PTOPIC for the suggested name. No other album called "Title" has a page on Wikipedia. The redirect, " Title (Straightener album)" doesn't look like it has been viewed a lot. In any case, a 2014 album, Which has yielded 2 top 5 singles definitely seems to be the more sought after topic here. A hatnote pointing to Title (disambiguation) would be added on the top of this article, when the move is made, making it "less" confusing. MaranoFan ( talk) 15:06, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
Note:The above oppose discussions are probably not valid since 1. Everyone agrees it is the primary topic. 2. The arguments, as Richhoncho himself notes, are "irrespective of any guideline". 3. The article is going to have a hatnote linking to Title (disambiguation) which also clearly lists Title (publishing). Marano fan 16:56, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
Does the booklet actually say that Trainor is the "exec" producer of those couple of songs? — ₳aron 12:22, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
I just made a tweak or two to the article, and inserted two explanation templates, where Wikipedia's voice is saying things that aren't factual and need contextualization. I was surprised to see that some of the changes I made are kind of a revert of this edit, which is unproductive (some of the writing is simply not good, esp. the sentence starting "sonically") and whose edit summary is incorrect (please point out the grammatical error that was corrected in the big revert). If this is to be a GA, the writing needs some serious work. Drmies ( talk) 01:37, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
Would it not be best to only include prose reviews that aggregate to the album's Metacritic score here instead of cherrypicking other ones that don't? To keep the section as neutral as possible? - Lips are movin 17:01, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
I recently submitted a peer review of this article, but realized that shortly thereafter the Wikipedian who requested the review was blocked and may need someone else here to review it. If someone could take that up and leave any follow-up questions as needed, that will ensure that the review is as effective as possible. Tonystewart14 ( talk) 17:27, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
According to Meghan Trainor discography, three albums have been released before this. Why is Title classed as her debut album? – Chase ( talk / contribs) 19:53, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
"Title is the fourth album and the major label debut studio album by American singer-songwriter Meghan Trainor".This seems to be a reasonable compromise. -- BoboMeowCat ( talk) 20:41, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, but Title is the third album of Meghan Trianor and don´t is the fourth. Adam Files ( talk) 14:48, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
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Proposed EP section
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Prior to the release of Title, an identically named EP was released on September 9, 2014. The four-track release includes "All About That Bass", "Title", "Dear Future Husband", and "Close Your Eyes". After writing "All About That Bass", Kadish suggested to Trainor that they record an EP of 1950s-influenced music "for fun." [1] Epic released the EP to prove to the public that Trainor was not a one-hit wonder. [2] The singer named it Title as a joke after various people asked her what its title would be. [3] In Austria, Germany, and Switzerland, an "All About That Bass" EP with an identical track listing was released. [4] [5] [6] The Title EP was removed from the iTunes Store when the full album was released for pre-order. [7] Promotion of the Title EP included performances of "All About That Bass" on Live! with Kelly and Michael, [8] Entertainment Tonight, [9] The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon (with Fallon and The Roots), [10] The Ellen DeGeneres Show, [11] and The X Factor Australia. [12] MTV premiered the song "Title" on their website [13] and Trainor later performed it on the network. [14] She additionally performed "Title" and Sam Smith's " Stay with Me" in a session for the National Post. [15] AllMusic's Matt Collar gave the EP a four-out-of-five star review, praising the catchiness of its songs and Trainor's vocal ability. [16] Jon Dolan of Rolling Stone gave the EP a three-out-of-five star review, praising its lyrics for being empowering and realistic. [17] A writer for the Knoxville News Sentinel also gave the EP three out of five stars, but criticized it for lacking diversity. [18] Likewise, Chris DeVille of Stereogum opined that Trainor should "[find] some new subject matter to sing about," [19] though he praised Trainor's vocal ability, the songs' musical content, and their "cheeky" lyrics. [19] References
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Since the Title EP consists of four tracks from the full-length Title album, and the EP article largely recycles material found in the album article, I propose that the EP article be condensed and merged into the album article. I've gone ahead and condensed the EP article into three paragraphs; please indicate below whether or not you feel such a merge should take place. If there's any key information I left out, that can be added back later. – Chase ( talk / contribs) 21:43, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
The charting is different for these two albums. It would look strange.There are only 3 weekly charts and 1 annual chart. Collapsible chart position tables can be added or the charts can be discussed in prose. I can add this to the collapsed example above if you would like to show you how uncomplicated this would be. – Chase ( talk / contribs) 03:57, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
Is there a way to make the album cover more HQ? When you click on the image, it is a great quality, but on the mainpage, the cover looks LQ. Any way to resolve this? - ilovechristianmusic (Talk to me!) 18:38, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
I have read up on MOS album styles, the track listing template article, and related articles, and cannot find anywhere that says repeating the album title is Wiki standard. I'm one for facts and links, so if it is Wiki standard, please point me in the direction of an article so I may read up on it. If, however, it is standard, I will edit accordingly. Best of luck. ilovechristianmusic (Tell Me Something!) 18:07, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
First, I made the spacing consistent to each other on the album box template and the track listing box. Second, I added the writers and producers for "Good to Be Alive", which the info was obtained from the The Peanuts Movie (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) album liner notes. Finally, I removed the lengths and producers from the Guitar Version of "What If I" and the Acoustic Version of "Title" because the lengths and producers from the original version might be different than from the alternative versions. ilovechristianmusic (Tell Me Something!) 04:24, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: not moved. ( non-admin closure) Eventhorizon51 ( talk) 15:46, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
Title (Meghan Trainor album) → Title (album) – Existence does not equate notability, and the Straightener album is not notable at all. See the recent move at Brothers in Arms (album) for example, as well as the imminent move at Chandelier (song). Unreal7 ( talk) 21:19, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
This article is about the Meghan Trainor album. For the Straightener album, see Straightener (band). For Trainor's 2014 EP, see Title (EP). For album titles, see Title (publishing).Chase ( talk | contributions) 23:41, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
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If we use some featured album articles for reference, Control (Janet Jackson album), 4 (Beyoncé album), ...And Justice for All (album)... References do not use the publisher field wherever the website has a Wikipedia article. The references in this article are inconsistent in their usage of this field so I am removing publishers.-- N Ø 09:40, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
Talk:Title (Meghan Trainor album)/GA2
The result of the move request was: Moved to
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12:27, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
P.S.
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Title (Meghan Trainor album) → Title (album) – The only article for an album with this title, per WP:ALBUMDAB. Tree Critter ( talk) 14:54, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
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The 2005 Japanese album is only a redirect at present but "exists" per WP:NCM. In ictu oculi ( talk) 23:24, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved as there is no consensus. Note to Maranofan – you should not remove comments from IPs (as you did here) during a debate. Number 5 7 13:02, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
I think that this article is the WP:PTOPIC for the suggested name. No other album called "Title" has a page on Wikipedia. The redirect, " Title (Straightener album)" doesn't look like it has been viewed a lot. In any case, a 2014 album, Which has yielded 2 top 5 singles definitely seems to be the more sought after topic here. A hatnote pointing to Title (disambiguation) would be added on the top of this article, when the move is made, making it "less" confusing. MaranoFan ( talk) 15:06, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
Note:The above oppose discussions are probably not valid since 1. Everyone agrees it is the primary topic. 2. The arguments, as Richhoncho himself notes, are "irrespective of any guideline". 3. The article is going to have a hatnote linking to Title (disambiguation) which also clearly lists Title (publishing). Marano fan 16:56, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
Does the booklet actually say that Trainor is the "exec" producer of those couple of songs? — ₳aron 12:22, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
I just made a tweak or two to the article, and inserted two explanation templates, where Wikipedia's voice is saying things that aren't factual and need contextualization. I was surprised to see that some of the changes I made are kind of a revert of this edit, which is unproductive (some of the writing is simply not good, esp. the sentence starting "sonically") and whose edit summary is incorrect (please point out the grammatical error that was corrected in the big revert). If this is to be a GA, the writing needs some serious work. Drmies ( talk) 01:37, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
Would it not be best to only include prose reviews that aggregate to the album's Metacritic score here instead of cherrypicking other ones that don't? To keep the section as neutral as possible? - Lips are movin 17:01, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
I recently submitted a peer review of this article, but realized that shortly thereafter the Wikipedian who requested the review was blocked and may need someone else here to review it. If someone could take that up and leave any follow-up questions as needed, that will ensure that the review is as effective as possible. Tonystewart14 ( talk) 17:27, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
According to Meghan Trainor discography, three albums have been released before this. Why is Title classed as her debut album? – Chase ( talk / contribs) 19:53, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
"Title is the fourth album and the major label debut studio album by American singer-songwriter Meghan Trainor".This seems to be a reasonable compromise. -- BoboMeowCat ( talk) 20:41, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, but Title is the third album of Meghan Trianor and don´t is the fourth. Adam Files ( talk) 14:48, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Proposed EP section
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Prior to the release of Title, an identically named EP was released on September 9, 2014. The four-track release includes "All About That Bass", "Title", "Dear Future Husband", and "Close Your Eyes". After writing "All About That Bass", Kadish suggested to Trainor that they record an EP of 1950s-influenced music "for fun." [1] Epic released the EP to prove to the public that Trainor was not a one-hit wonder. [2] The singer named it Title as a joke after various people asked her what its title would be. [3] In Austria, Germany, and Switzerland, an "All About That Bass" EP with an identical track listing was released. [4] [5] [6] The Title EP was removed from the iTunes Store when the full album was released for pre-order. [7] Promotion of the Title EP included performances of "All About That Bass" on Live! with Kelly and Michael, [8] Entertainment Tonight, [9] The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon (with Fallon and The Roots), [10] The Ellen DeGeneres Show, [11] and The X Factor Australia. [12] MTV premiered the song "Title" on their website [13] and Trainor later performed it on the network. [14] She additionally performed "Title" and Sam Smith's " Stay with Me" in a session for the National Post. [15] AllMusic's Matt Collar gave the EP a four-out-of-five star review, praising the catchiness of its songs and Trainor's vocal ability. [16] Jon Dolan of Rolling Stone gave the EP a three-out-of-five star review, praising its lyrics for being empowering and realistic. [17] A writer for the Knoxville News Sentinel also gave the EP three out of five stars, but criticized it for lacking diversity. [18] Likewise, Chris DeVille of Stereogum opined that Trainor should "[find] some new subject matter to sing about," [19] though he praised Trainor's vocal ability, the songs' musical content, and their "cheeky" lyrics. [19] References
|
Since the Title EP consists of four tracks from the full-length Title album, and the EP article largely recycles material found in the album article, I propose that the EP article be condensed and merged into the album article. I've gone ahead and condensed the EP article into three paragraphs; please indicate below whether or not you feel such a merge should take place. If there's any key information I left out, that can be added back later. – Chase ( talk / contribs) 21:43, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
The charting is different for these two albums. It would look strange.There are only 3 weekly charts and 1 annual chart. Collapsible chart position tables can be added or the charts can be discussed in prose. I can add this to the collapsed example above if you would like to show you how uncomplicated this would be. – Chase ( talk / contribs) 03:57, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
Is there a way to make the album cover more HQ? When you click on the image, it is a great quality, but on the mainpage, the cover looks LQ. Any way to resolve this? - ilovechristianmusic (Talk to me!) 18:38, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
I have read up on MOS album styles, the track listing template article, and related articles, and cannot find anywhere that says repeating the album title is Wiki standard. I'm one for facts and links, so if it is Wiki standard, please point me in the direction of an article so I may read up on it. If, however, it is standard, I will edit accordingly. Best of luck. ilovechristianmusic (Tell Me Something!) 18:07, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
First, I made the spacing consistent to each other on the album box template and the track listing box. Second, I added the writers and producers for "Good to Be Alive", which the info was obtained from the The Peanuts Movie (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) album liner notes. Finally, I removed the lengths and producers from the Guitar Version of "What If I" and the Acoustic Version of "Title" because the lengths and producers from the original version might be different than from the alternative versions. ilovechristianmusic (Tell Me Something!) 04:24, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: not moved. ( non-admin closure) Eventhorizon51 ( talk) 15:46, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
Title (Meghan Trainor album) → Title (album) – Existence does not equate notability, and the Straightener album is not notable at all. See the recent move at Brothers in Arms (album) for example, as well as the imminent move at Chandelier (song). Unreal7 ( talk) 21:19, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
This article is about the Meghan Trainor album. For the Straightener album, see Straightener (band). For Trainor's 2014 EP, see Title (EP). For album titles, see Title (publishing).Chase ( talk | contributions) 23:41, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
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If we use some featured album articles for reference, Control (Janet Jackson album), 4 (Beyoncé album), ...And Justice for All (album)... References do not use the publisher field wherever the website has a Wikipedia article. The references in this article are inconsistent in their usage of this field so I am removing publishers.-- N Ø 09:40, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
Talk:Title (Meghan Trainor album)/GA2
The result of the move request was: Moved to
Title (album) per nom.
No such user (
talk)
12:27, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
P.S.
WP:ALBUMDAB clearly applies here (supporters reinforcing
WP:PDAB#Song and album articles with no other standalone article), while concerns about potential confusion with
album title have been refuted.
No such user (
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06:47, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
Title (Meghan Trainor album) → Title (album) – The only article for an album with this title, per WP:ALBUMDAB. Tree Critter ( talk) 14:54, 1 June 2021 (UTC)