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The discussion for the wikipedia sentence that reads, "Ryan is one of the only people working within the field of early-new media art history". I am confused why this would be a "dubious" claim, New Media Art has a relatively short history starting in approx. the 1960s. It had been derived from the quote: "Dr. Tina Rivers Ryan is one of the few art historians working to reconstruct the early history of new media art."[1] Please feel free to discuss here and provide any related citations.
PigeonChickenFish (
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Pretty simple, it's utter nonsense that she's "one of the only people". There are entire symposia dedicated to the field, with hundreds of participants and many museums have curators who specialize in time based arts.
Vexations (
talk) 21:38, 23 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Then we should write the article
Time-based art. FWI,
John Hanhardt has published on early new media art (especially
Nam June Paik) and his work has been cited extensively. Another curator of time-based arts is
Karen Archey. Museums like the Tate have dedicated curatorial staff. I would love it if there was sufficient material in independent, reliable sources to sustain an article on TRR. A few years from now, that may well be the case.
Vexations (
talk) 22:18, 23 January 2022 (UTC)reply
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This article was nominated for
deletion on 2 January 2022. The result of
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The discussion for the wikipedia sentence that reads, "Ryan is one of the only people working within the field of early-new media art history". I am confused why this would be a "dubious" claim, New Media Art has a relatively short history starting in approx. the 1960s. It had been derived from the quote: "Dr. Tina Rivers Ryan is one of the few art historians working to reconstruct the early history of new media art."[1] Please feel free to discuss here and provide any related citations.
PigeonChickenFish (
talk) 21:33, 23 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Pretty simple, it's utter nonsense that she's "one of the only people". There are entire symposia dedicated to the field, with hundreds of participants and many museums have curators who specialize in time based arts.
Vexations (
talk) 21:38, 23 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Then we should write the article
Time-based art. FWI,
John Hanhardt has published on early new media art (especially
Nam June Paik) and his work has been cited extensively. Another curator of time-based arts is
Karen Archey. Museums like the Tate have dedicated curatorial staff. I would love it if there was sufficient material in independent, reliable sources to sustain an article on TRR. A few years from now, that may well be the case.
Vexations (
talk) 22:18, 23 January 2022 (UTC)reply