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How about a page move to Timeline of the Northern Ireland Troubles? Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 19:59, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Why haven't the shooting of the PSNI officer outside the school in Derry by the RIRA in 2008 been added to the timeline? -- 193.61.159.26 ( talk) 01:36, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
So why is the RPG attack in Fermanagh included? Whats the difference between and RPG injuring PSNI and a shotgun injuring them? -- 193.61.159.26 ( talk) 01:36, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Superfopp can you cite some source(s) for the dates (see The Troubles) Wgh001 ( talk) 16:03, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
The lead says that "The duration of the Troubles is conventionally dated from the riots of 1968 ...". Why, then, are events prior to the riots of 1968 included in the chronology? The chronology should surely begin with the Derry riots of 1968. Mooretwin ( talk) 17:06, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
If these events are to be included, this article should be moved back to Chronology of the Northern Ireland Troubles and Peace Process. Where are the sources that say the 2009 events are part of the Troubles? There are none. This article currently consists of nothing more than editors' opinons that the Troubles are still going on in 2009, if it is moved back to the other title all the problems are solved immediately. I should also add that just because the majority view that the Troubles ended in 1998 does not necessarily mean a view exists that they are still going on in 2009, that is a logical fallacy. Others would date the end to a different time, such as 2005 when the IRA formally called an end to their armed campaign, or when devolved government was restored to Northern Ireland. O Fenian ( talk) 12:16, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Since nobody has provided sources or disagreed despite plenty of advance notice, I have moved this page. O Fenian ( talk) 19:54, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Allow me to suggest a compromise – if we end the chronology in 2007 can "peace process" then be removed from the title? After 1998, that seems to be the most realistic end-date. The St Andrews Agreement was implemented, devolution was restored, Operation Banner officially ended, and the UVF & UDA ended their campaigns. ~Asarlaí 04:45, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
This is unreadable for anyone who doesn´t know the involved groups. Loyalists? RUC? People`s Democracy? All are just mentioned without anything explaining to what side they belong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.57.243.129 ( talk) 13:09, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
These appear to be duplicated. Does anyone know which is the actual date or was it an overnight gun battle? GiollaUidir ( talk) 15:06, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
there is a bit missing dated 2nd February 1992 which can be found in another article the two should be tied together Paddy Clarke was killed at his north Belfast home by members of the UDA West Belfast Brigade.[2]
source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Graham_bookmakers'_shooting#cite_note-McDon222-2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fclarke ( talk • contribs) 13:52, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi Snowded, why do you feel it was better with the prior wording? Gob Lofa ( talk) 18:52, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
Gob Lofa already knows that this edit is contentious having tried it elsewhere so why they think it is suddenly alright to try it elsewhere smacks of disregard for other editors. Mabuska (talk) 11:43, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
Is there any particular reason the Burning of Bombay Street is not on the timeline? It strikes me as a fairly significant omission. -- Drmargi ( talk) 10:29, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
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Are there any guidelines for including names of victims, e.g. are attacks with many victims intended to have the names left out for space reasons? It seems a bit haphazard at the moment. Gob Lofa ( talk) 18:42, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
The intro paragraph for 1960s decade appears to treat a political opinion as an indisputable statement. There is more than one aspect to this: one is that discrimination had taking place in one direction only; two is the level to which discrimination may have taken place; three is the inference that all "Ulster Protestants" were taking part in discrimination against Roman Catholics and/or nationalists. Various reports have suggested that there was no extant institutionalised discrimination in, for example, housing. Also that discrimination was less a conspiracy, and more a natural process of identity - with Roman Catholics tending to employ and recommend Roman Catholics and family members, and various Protestants tending to employ and recommend fellow Protestants and family members.
The end to " one man, one vote" issue was confined specifically to local council elections - the general elections were the same as in the rest of the UK (and the overall results were often similar). -- 24.182.92.247 ( talk) 20:30, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: pages moved as requested per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 14:45, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
– I would prefer to replace the "Northern Ireland Troubles" with simply Troubles to match the parent article located at The Troubles, however I wouldn't mind if people wish to retain "Northern Ireland". The main point is the removal of "and peace process", which will also change the scopes of the articles slightly. Again the parent article is located at "The Troubles" not "The Troubles and peace process", so it makes no sense for spin-off articles to have an entirely different scope. FDW777 ( talk) 21:20, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
I feel like the key is not very accessible. The colours are not colourblind friendly and also way too light to be easily distinguishable. I am not really sure how to go about changing this, but maybe:
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Political or civil violence |
Paramilitary killing, bombing or assassination attempt |
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K-Paramilitary killing, bombing or assassination attempt |
providing not only (more clearly distinguished) colours, but also a letter indicator.
Aside from that, I am not entirely sure there is a need for a colour key at all?
Any ideas on this? Anboersma ( talk) 20:10, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
I've removed these. Firstly they are copyright violations. Secondly it makes no sense for post-Troubles (1998 onwards) to go into way more detail that the actual years of the Troubles. Obviously some post-1998 events needs to be included, but these tend to be key events not insignificant ones. Kathleen's bike ( talk) 17:02, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
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How about a page move to Timeline of the Northern Ireland Troubles? Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 19:59, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Why haven't the shooting of the PSNI officer outside the school in Derry by the RIRA in 2008 been added to the timeline? -- 193.61.159.26 ( talk) 01:36, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
So why is the RPG attack in Fermanagh included? Whats the difference between and RPG injuring PSNI and a shotgun injuring them? -- 193.61.159.26 ( talk) 01:36, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Superfopp can you cite some source(s) for the dates (see The Troubles) Wgh001 ( talk) 16:03, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
The lead says that "The duration of the Troubles is conventionally dated from the riots of 1968 ...". Why, then, are events prior to the riots of 1968 included in the chronology? The chronology should surely begin with the Derry riots of 1968. Mooretwin ( talk) 17:06, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
If these events are to be included, this article should be moved back to Chronology of the Northern Ireland Troubles and Peace Process. Where are the sources that say the 2009 events are part of the Troubles? There are none. This article currently consists of nothing more than editors' opinons that the Troubles are still going on in 2009, if it is moved back to the other title all the problems are solved immediately. I should also add that just because the majority view that the Troubles ended in 1998 does not necessarily mean a view exists that they are still going on in 2009, that is a logical fallacy. Others would date the end to a different time, such as 2005 when the IRA formally called an end to their armed campaign, or when devolved government was restored to Northern Ireland. O Fenian ( talk) 12:16, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Since nobody has provided sources or disagreed despite plenty of advance notice, I have moved this page. O Fenian ( talk) 19:54, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Allow me to suggest a compromise – if we end the chronology in 2007 can "peace process" then be removed from the title? After 1998, that seems to be the most realistic end-date. The St Andrews Agreement was implemented, devolution was restored, Operation Banner officially ended, and the UVF & UDA ended their campaigns. ~Asarlaí 04:45, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
This is unreadable for anyone who doesn´t know the involved groups. Loyalists? RUC? People`s Democracy? All are just mentioned without anything explaining to what side they belong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.57.243.129 ( talk) 13:09, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
These appear to be duplicated. Does anyone know which is the actual date or was it an overnight gun battle? GiollaUidir ( talk) 15:06, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
there is a bit missing dated 2nd February 1992 which can be found in another article the two should be tied together Paddy Clarke was killed at his north Belfast home by members of the UDA West Belfast Brigade.[2]
source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Graham_bookmakers'_shooting#cite_note-McDon222-2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fclarke ( talk • contribs) 13:52, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi Snowded, why do you feel it was better with the prior wording? Gob Lofa ( talk) 18:52, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
Gob Lofa already knows that this edit is contentious having tried it elsewhere so why they think it is suddenly alright to try it elsewhere smacks of disregard for other editors. Mabuska (talk) 11:43, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
Is there any particular reason the Burning of Bombay Street is not on the timeline? It strikes me as a fairly significant omission. -- Drmargi ( talk) 10:29, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
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Are there any guidelines for including names of victims, e.g. are attacks with many victims intended to have the names left out for space reasons? It seems a bit haphazard at the moment. Gob Lofa ( talk) 18:42, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
The intro paragraph for 1960s decade appears to treat a political opinion as an indisputable statement. There is more than one aspect to this: one is that discrimination had taking place in one direction only; two is the level to which discrimination may have taken place; three is the inference that all "Ulster Protestants" were taking part in discrimination against Roman Catholics and/or nationalists. Various reports have suggested that there was no extant institutionalised discrimination in, for example, housing. Also that discrimination was less a conspiracy, and more a natural process of identity - with Roman Catholics tending to employ and recommend Roman Catholics and family members, and various Protestants tending to employ and recommend fellow Protestants and family members.
The end to " one man, one vote" issue was confined specifically to local council elections - the general elections were the same as in the rest of the UK (and the overall results were often similar). -- 24.182.92.247 ( talk) 20:30, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: pages moved as requested per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 14:45, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
– I would prefer to replace the "Northern Ireland Troubles" with simply Troubles to match the parent article located at The Troubles, however I wouldn't mind if people wish to retain "Northern Ireland". The main point is the removal of "and peace process", which will also change the scopes of the articles slightly. Again the parent article is located at "The Troubles" not "The Troubles and peace process", so it makes no sense for spin-off articles to have an entirely different scope. FDW777 ( talk) 21:20, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
I feel like the key is not very accessible. The colours are not colourblind friendly and also way too light to be easily distinguishable. I am not really sure how to go about changing this, but maybe:
instead of:
Political action or event |
Political or civil violence |
Paramilitary killing, bombing or assassination attempt |
something more like this?:
PA-Political action or event |
V-Political or civil violence |
K-Paramilitary killing, bombing or assassination attempt |
providing not only (more clearly distinguished) colours, but also a letter indicator.
Aside from that, I am not entirely sure there is a need for a colour key at all?
Any ideas on this? Anboersma ( talk) 20:10, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
I've removed these. Firstly they are copyright violations. Secondly it makes no sense for post-Troubles (1998 onwards) to go into way more detail that the actual years of the Troubles. Obviously some post-1998 events needs to be included, but these tend to be key events not insignificant ones. Kathleen's bike ( talk) 17:02, 23 May 2024 (UTC)