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missing a timeline - venn was it? also missing Venn diagram of parties involved — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.153.148.230 ( talk) 14:19, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
Websurfer2 can you clarify why you restored this? The FBI investigation concluded there were no links (see p. 119 here). Alaexis ¿question? 05:45, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Russian interference in the elections was clearly proven, but this thread is about Alfa-bank and the nature of its connection to a Trump server, not Russian interference in general. The suspicion was very quickly discarded because the connection was not proven to be nefarious. This turned out to NOT be part of the Russian interference, but, at the time, because of Trump's favorable actions toward Russian interests, leaking the suspicions of a secret backchannel to the press seemed to be justified:
The trial took place in May 2022, and the jury found Sussman not guilty. During the trial, it was revealed by Robby Mook that, even though campaign members "weren't totally confident" in the veracity of the information, in light of Trump's favorable actions toward Russian interests, leaking the suspicions of a secret backchannel to the press seemed to be justified, and Hillary Clinton agreed with that decision. Mook believed journalists would verify the story before publication. [1] [2]
The idea of establishing a secret backchannel between Trump and Russia isn't odd at all. Jared Kushner approached Russia's ambassador to Washington and suggested setting up a secret (from American intelligence agencies) and secure communications backchannel. The idea was so dangerous and odd, seen from an American security perspective, that the Russian ambassador realized this and was shocked at the very idea. No normal person would ever suggest such a thing. Only someone who had no loyalty to American interests would even try to do that, but the Trump campaign tried. As far as we know, the Russian ambassador didn't go along with the idea. It would have been a ticking bomb under Russian-U.S. relations.
Also read Russia investigation origins counter-narrative#Sussmann trial and acquittal, and John Durham#Prosecution of Michael Sussmann (and the next section there about "Alfa Bank investigation"). -- Valjean ( talk) ( PING me) 20:33, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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3 similarly named articles are covering same topic and mostly identical as one as huge part of 4th just repeats content of first 3 ones 85.238.103.38 ( talk) 04:34, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
This article is highly speculative and assumes that every contact Trump had with any Russian entity has lead to the Russian interference. this is not a timeline based on hard evidence but a barrage of sinister names and speculations of their connectivity. This kind of "connect the dots" conspiracy mongering is below the standards of Wikimedia.I suggest this article in it's entirety be transferred to Yahoo. 97.120.153.185 ( talk) 09:15, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
We say: Through September 2021, U.S. government investigators had been unable to explain the activity
I cannot find an allusion to this in the NYT source. Am I missing it? I believe the latest federal investigation mentioned by the NYT is the FBI investigation all the way back in 2016. I don't see where the NYT says anyone, (e.g. Durham) continued investigating it until 2021. DFlhb ( talk) 15:52, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
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missing a timeline - venn was it? also missing Venn diagram of parties involved — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.153.148.230 ( talk) 14:19, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
Websurfer2 can you clarify why you restored this? The FBI investigation concluded there were no links (see p. 119 here). Alaexis ¿question? 05:45, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Russian interference in the elections was clearly proven, but this thread is about Alfa-bank and the nature of its connection to a Trump server, not Russian interference in general. The suspicion was very quickly discarded because the connection was not proven to be nefarious. This turned out to NOT be part of the Russian interference, but, at the time, because of Trump's favorable actions toward Russian interests, leaking the suspicions of a secret backchannel to the press seemed to be justified:
The trial took place in May 2022, and the jury found Sussman not guilty. During the trial, it was revealed by Robby Mook that, even though campaign members "weren't totally confident" in the veracity of the information, in light of Trump's favorable actions toward Russian interests, leaking the suspicions of a secret backchannel to the press seemed to be justified, and Hillary Clinton agreed with that decision. Mook believed journalists would verify the story before publication. [1] [2]
The idea of establishing a secret backchannel between Trump and Russia isn't odd at all. Jared Kushner approached Russia's ambassador to Washington and suggested setting up a secret (from American intelligence agencies) and secure communications backchannel. The idea was so dangerous and odd, seen from an American security perspective, that the Russian ambassador realized this and was shocked at the very idea. No normal person would ever suggest such a thing. Only someone who had no loyalty to American interests would even try to do that, but the Trump campaign tried. As far as we know, the Russian ambassador didn't go along with the idea. It would have been a ticking bomb under Russian-U.S. relations.
Also read Russia investigation origins counter-narrative#Sussmann trial and acquittal, and John Durham#Prosecution of Michael Sussmann (and the next section there about "Alfa Bank investigation"). -- Valjean ( talk) ( PING me) 20:33, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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3 similarly named articles are covering same topic and mostly identical as one as huge part of 4th just repeats content of first 3 ones 85.238.103.38 ( talk) 04:34, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
This article is highly speculative and assumes that every contact Trump had with any Russian entity has lead to the Russian interference. this is not a timeline based on hard evidence but a barrage of sinister names and speculations of their connectivity. This kind of "connect the dots" conspiracy mongering is below the standards of Wikimedia.I suggest this article in it's entirety be transferred to Yahoo. 97.120.153.185 ( talk) 09:15, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
We say: Through September 2021, U.S. government investigators had been unable to explain the activity
I cannot find an allusion to this in the NYT source. Am I missing it? I believe the latest federal investigation mentioned by the NYT is the FBI investigation all the way back in 2016. I don't see where the NYT says anyone, (e.g. Durham) continued investigating it until 2021. DFlhb ( talk) 15:52, 21 April 2023 (UTC)