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The Phar Lap and Mars refs came from a Wikipedia search via Google. Most of the rest is off the top of my head. : robinp 01:06, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Don't know about the crater, but the Phar Lap one's right. Timaru Race course is called Phar Lap Raceway - it's about 2km north of Washdyke. Grutness
Added a bit more body text and provided a basic organizational framework for other contributions, but this stub article really requires some more local input.
Rmackenzie 18:38, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
I've now bulked out the original article. Future editorial content needs to come from Kiwis with more detailed knowledge about the town. The framework of subheadings is provisional and may need to be revised. Rmackenzie 01:26, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Can you really consider this a stub now? - Nichlemn 01:07, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
Most of the article is fine, but there are significant gaps, such as the local politics and 20th century history components, that need attention.-- Rmackenzie 10:22, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
Added to Golf courses in New Zealand category. Not sure if its right though :o Sasank 00:19, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
Advert or info guys !?! Smog is a problem people NEED to know about !
Do Auckland and Christchurch not pretend to have no smog on calm winter days ??
142.162.21.1 ( talk) 11:20, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi @ Roger 8 Roger: - where in the Stats NZ webpage http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/population/census_counts/2013CensusUsuallyResidentPopulationCounts_HOTP2013Census/Commentary.aspx#orderofcities does it say that Nelson is a city? Or do you have another source that shows it is? Cheers, Ollieinc ( talk) 07:37, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
To continue and to refer to Nelson as requested, the reasoning why Nelson is a city seems the same as Timaru. City status was granted by the monarch in 1858 and has never been revoked. The recent changes to local govt structures are nothing more than exercises in administration areas that will, inevitably, change again in the future. Here is an interesting press article about Nelson that has some ideas but misses the point and muddles up the Nelson District and the City of Nelson. http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/10313884/Is-Nelson-really-a-city . It quotes the actual wording of the legislation about granting an urban area city status. This presumably means that the Timaru District (not the city/town) bannot currenetly be a city status under the L.G.Act but could apply for city status if its population later exceededs 50,000. It would probably fail because it would not reach the other requirements, such as being a major regional hub (the town of Timaru is a hub but not the district). Roger 8 Roger ( talk) 00:21, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
Not a criticism, just wondering.
Avaiki ( talk) 05:16, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
Is there a source for the size of Timaru in the side bar? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hdert ( talk • contribs) 05:40, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
The following Statement is not quite correct: "Following the loss of a number of vessels off the coast, work started on the redevelopment of the artificial port in 1877, which eventually caused sand washed south down the Pacific shoreline to build up against the northern mole. This was the beginning of the extensive land reclamation around the Caroline Bay district, an area which is still growing today."
The longshore drift at Timaru is south to north, and the coarse sediment built up behind the South Mole, resulting in a large reclaimed area at the southern end of the port. The finer sediment was able to drift to build up on the north of the North Mole, creating the beach at Caroline Bay. Another result was that little of the sediment reached Washdyke lagoon, which has steadily decreased in size since 1881 when the moles were constructed. I know there is a simplified version in Te Ara Encyclopedia, which is also incorrect. I did a study on this in 7th form geography. I'm trying to find sources on line, but there isn't a lot. Maybe someone still in Timaru could find a source at the museum or in a book to back it up.
Sorry I tried to log in but forgot my username and password Tim Costelloe
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The Phar Lap and Mars refs came from a Wikipedia search via Google. Most of the rest is off the top of my head. : robinp 01:06, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Don't know about the crater, but the Phar Lap one's right. Timaru Race course is called Phar Lap Raceway - it's about 2km north of Washdyke. Grutness
Added a bit more body text and provided a basic organizational framework for other contributions, but this stub article really requires some more local input.
Rmackenzie 18:38, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
I've now bulked out the original article. Future editorial content needs to come from Kiwis with more detailed knowledge about the town. The framework of subheadings is provisional and may need to be revised. Rmackenzie 01:26, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Can you really consider this a stub now? - Nichlemn 01:07, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
Most of the article is fine, but there are significant gaps, such as the local politics and 20th century history components, that need attention.-- Rmackenzie 10:22, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
Added to Golf courses in New Zealand category. Not sure if its right though :o Sasank 00:19, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
Advert or info guys !?! Smog is a problem people NEED to know about !
Do Auckland and Christchurch not pretend to have no smog on calm winter days ??
142.162.21.1 ( talk) 11:20, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi @ Roger 8 Roger: - where in the Stats NZ webpage http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/population/census_counts/2013CensusUsuallyResidentPopulationCounts_HOTP2013Census/Commentary.aspx#orderofcities does it say that Nelson is a city? Or do you have another source that shows it is? Cheers, Ollieinc ( talk) 07:37, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
To continue and to refer to Nelson as requested, the reasoning why Nelson is a city seems the same as Timaru. City status was granted by the monarch in 1858 and has never been revoked. The recent changes to local govt structures are nothing more than exercises in administration areas that will, inevitably, change again in the future. Here is an interesting press article about Nelson that has some ideas but misses the point and muddles up the Nelson District and the City of Nelson. http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/10313884/Is-Nelson-really-a-city . It quotes the actual wording of the legislation about granting an urban area city status. This presumably means that the Timaru District (not the city/town) bannot currenetly be a city status under the L.G.Act but could apply for city status if its population later exceededs 50,000. It would probably fail because it would not reach the other requirements, such as being a major regional hub (the town of Timaru is a hub but not the district). Roger 8 Roger ( talk) 00:21, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
Not a criticism, just wondering.
Avaiki ( talk) 05:16, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
Is there a source for the size of Timaru in the side bar? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hdert ( talk • contribs) 05:40, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
The following Statement is not quite correct: "Following the loss of a number of vessels off the coast, work started on the redevelopment of the artificial port in 1877, which eventually caused sand washed south down the Pacific shoreline to build up against the northern mole. This was the beginning of the extensive land reclamation around the Caroline Bay district, an area which is still growing today."
The longshore drift at Timaru is south to north, and the coarse sediment built up behind the South Mole, resulting in a large reclaimed area at the southern end of the port. The finer sediment was able to drift to build up on the north of the North Mole, creating the beach at Caroline Bay. Another result was that little of the sediment reached Washdyke lagoon, which has steadily decreased in size since 1881 when the moles were constructed. I know there is a simplified version in Te Ara Encyclopedia, which is also incorrect. I did a study on this in 7th form geography. I'm trying to find sources on line, but there isn't a lot. Maybe someone still in Timaru could find a source at the museum or in a book to back it up.
Sorry I tried to log in but forgot my username and password Tim Costelloe