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I've just completed some major editing of the article and have removed much of the peacock wording and the point of view, although there's still ample amounts of it in the article.
I've also included 2 of the references that user:THF mentioned below. However, I wasn't able to write more about the Harold Lewis/Gifts scandal because I wasn't able to access some of the article. Adding this to the article would be beneficial.
Lastly, I've put the article on my watchlist. Ptim, don't revert the edits I've made. If you want to add further to the article, please provide references that include information on what you're trying to reference. Many of the links I removed had no relation to the entry on Tim Howard. John 21:52, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
Some of the news Howard is most notable for is missing from this article:
In case it's not obvious to all, it appears that Ptim ( talk · contribs · logs) is P. Tim Howard himself. If that's true, there's a clear conflict of interest with his edits of an article of which he is the subject. Edits made by this editor should be scrutinized more carefully. TJRC ( talk) 18:50, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
There are edits being made by Ptim that have COI issues; minimizing the discipline as merely " moral conduct that ran afoul of technical rules" and claiming "an attempt to extort Howard." I'm undoing the whole mess. Ptim, please include reliable and verifiable third-party sources with future edits. TJRC ( talk) 23:52, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
The sources cited, the first is not on the Tim Howard discussed in this section. The other two are, and the consent decree cited covers the attempt to obtain 4-6 times the funds from Howard that were not legal, such activities are termed extortion. Failure to place check numbers, over payment, and a rule change on the title of the accounts in existence since 1995 are technical violations. These are the substance of the violations. (PTH) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.31.19.209 ( talk) 17:23, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Howard's role in the Harold Lewis affair is entirely absent from this article.
This probably belongs in the article somewhere, too. THF ( talk) 08:20, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
I have removed this section pending discussion. I am invoking WP:BLP so this section MUST NOT be replaced until there is consensus that it is fair and safe to do so. We discuss contentious material in its absence.
The section see here contains only one source. (One is not sourced and the third is a deadlink).
The concern isn't just with sourcing, it is with WP:UNDUE. Is it fair to record a list of raps in an article. I'd like that discussed before we do.-- Scott Mac 10:00, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Reviewing the links
-- Scott Mac 10:24, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
More cites:
That's how reprimands are reported. Jhw57, UKexpat, and I all believe it belongs in the article. You and Ptim are the only ones who don't. The article is already unreasonably sanitized even with the mention of the reprimands. THF ( talk) 10:40, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
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I've just completed some major editing of the article and have removed much of the peacock wording and the point of view, although there's still ample amounts of it in the article.
I've also included 2 of the references that user:THF mentioned below. However, I wasn't able to write more about the Harold Lewis/Gifts scandal because I wasn't able to access some of the article. Adding this to the article would be beneficial.
Lastly, I've put the article on my watchlist. Ptim, don't revert the edits I've made. If you want to add further to the article, please provide references that include information on what you're trying to reference. Many of the links I removed had no relation to the entry on Tim Howard. John 21:52, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
Some of the news Howard is most notable for is missing from this article:
In case it's not obvious to all, it appears that Ptim ( talk · contribs · logs) is P. Tim Howard himself. If that's true, there's a clear conflict of interest with his edits of an article of which he is the subject. Edits made by this editor should be scrutinized more carefully. TJRC ( talk) 18:50, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
There are edits being made by Ptim that have COI issues; minimizing the discipline as merely " moral conduct that ran afoul of technical rules" and claiming "an attempt to extort Howard." I'm undoing the whole mess. Ptim, please include reliable and verifiable third-party sources with future edits. TJRC ( talk) 23:52, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
The sources cited, the first is not on the Tim Howard discussed in this section. The other two are, and the consent decree cited covers the attempt to obtain 4-6 times the funds from Howard that were not legal, such activities are termed extortion. Failure to place check numbers, over payment, and a rule change on the title of the accounts in existence since 1995 are technical violations. These are the substance of the violations. (PTH) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.31.19.209 ( talk) 17:23, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Howard's role in the Harold Lewis affair is entirely absent from this article.
This probably belongs in the article somewhere, too. THF ( talk) 08:20, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
I have removed this section pending discussion. I am invoking WP:BLP so this section MUST NOT be replaced until there is consensus that it is fair and safe to do so. We discuss contentious material in its absence.
The section see here contains only one source. (One is not sourced and the third is a deadlink).
The concern isn't just with sourcing, it is with WP:UNDUE. Is it fair to record a list of raps in an article. I'd like that discussed before we do.-- Scott Mac 10:00, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Reviewing the links
-- Scott Mac 10:24, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
More cites:
That's how reprimands are reported. Jhw57, UKexpat, and I all believe it belongs in the article. You and Ptim are the only ones who don't. The article is already unreasonably sanitized even with the mention of the reprimands. THF ( talk) 10:40, 5 November 2010 (UTC)