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I'm hoping to further develop this article over the coming weeks and then submit it it to GA review. As part of that, I'd like to alter the citation system. This requires prior discussion on the talk page under the WP:CITEVAR policy.
Currently the article uses long citations, e.g. "AD Saunders Tilbury Fort and the Development of Artillery Fortifications in the Thames Estuary (The Antiquaries Journal, 1960)" With a greater density of citations, this can be less easy to use or read. I'm proposing the harvb template and bibliography approach, supported by cite web in cs2 mode. This produces short citations, such as "Saunders 1960, pp. 18-19", with the full book details automatically linked in a bibliography below. For an example of how this looks and works in practice, have a look at Henry I of England, which I was also involved in.
I'd welcome your thoughts. Hchc2009 ( talk) 16:59, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Sainsf ( talk · contribs) 15:15, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Great, I would love to review one of your masterpieces. Sainsf ( talk · contribs) 15:15, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Fairly well-written as always, so these are mere nitpicks :) Sainsf ( talk · contribs) 18:37, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
That should be it. Cheers, Sainsf ( talk · contribs) 18:37, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the changes. I am happy to promote this. Cheers, Sainsf ( talk · contribs) 10:41, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
@ Wham2001: I think the change you have made to the Saunders citation could be confusing. The url link to IA is to the full-text of the 1960 edition, which does not have an ISBN. The ISBN applies to the amended 1977 edition, which is not available on IA. The way I cited the book makes this clear, and unless there is a strong direction in WP guidelines I suggest changing it back. Kognos ( talk) 11:52, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
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parameter: i.e. * {{cite book | last1= Saunders | first1 = Andrew D. | author-link=Andrew Saunders | title = Tilbury Fort: Essex | year= 1960 | publisher = Her Majesty's Stationery Office | location = London, UK | url=https://archive.org/details/tilbury-fort-official-guidebook | ref={{sfnref|Saunders|1977}}}} Amended edition (1977) {{ISBN|0-1167-0311-3}}
. As I see it this is a fudge, since the anchor tag is connected to the wrong source.
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I'm hoping to further develop this article over the coming weeks and then submit it it to GA review. As part of that, I'd like to alter the citation system. This requires prior discussion on the talk page under the WP:CITEVAR policy.
Currently the article uses long citations, e.g. "AD Saunders Tilbury Fort and the Development of Artillery Fortifications in the Thames Estuary (The Antiquaries Journal, 1960)" With a greater density of citations, this can be less easy to use or read. I'm proposing the harvb template and bibliography approach, supported by cite web in cs2 mode. This produces short citations, such as "Saunders 1960, pp. 18-19", with the full book details automatically linked in a bibliography below. For an example of how this looks and works in practice, have a look at Henry I of England, which I was also involved in.
I'd welcome your thoughts. Hchc2009 ( talk) 16:59, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Sainsf ( talk · contribs) 15:15, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Great, I would love to review one of your masterpieces. Sainsf ( talk · contribs) 15:15, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Fairly well-written as always, so these are mere nitpicks :) Sainsf ( talk · contribs) 18:37, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
That should be it. Cheers, Sainsf ( talk · contribs) 18:37, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the changes. I am happy to promote this. Cheers, Sainsf ( talk · contribs) 10:41, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
@ Wham2001: I think the change you have made to the Saunders citation could be confusing. The url link to IA is to the full-text of the 1960 edition, which does not have an ISBN. The ISBN applies to the amended 1977 edition, which is not available on IA. The way I cited the book makes this clear, and unless there is a strong direction in WP guidelines I suggest changing it back. Kognos ( talk) 11:52, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
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parameter: i.e. * {{cite book | last1= Saunders | first1 = Andrew D. | author-link=Andrew Saunders | title = Tilbury Fort: Essex | year= 1960 | publisher = Her Majesty's Stationery Office | location = London, UK | url=https://archive.org/details/tilbury-fort-official-guidebook | ref={{sfnref|Saunders|1977}}}} Amended edition (1977) {{ISBN|0-1167-0311-3}}
. As I see it this is a fudge, since the anchor tag is connected to the wrong source.