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In the section Effects, there are way too many negative consequences of tiger parenting that overweigh the positive consequences of tiger parenting. WP:NPOV states that the article should not give any undue weight to any viewpoint. What should be done is that more paragraphs about the positive side of tiger parenting should be added to the section. DSCrowned( talk) 09:19, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
For most of the articles I read about the tiger moms, it seem to be considered abusive by many nowadays. Do you think that it is abusive or if the tiger moms teachings are appropriate and needed for the children's in Asia? [1]
Another question to be about the childrens in Asia developing depression and self-loath faster than most. What do you think is needed to stop this? [2]
By Tkwak5 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tkwak5 ( talk • contribs) 21:15, November 13, 2016 (UTC)
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Questions: 1. Is each fact referenced with an appropriate, reliable reference?— Tkwak5 ( talk) 02:53, 16 November 2016 (UTC). 2. Is the article neutral? Are there any claims, or frames, that appear heavily biased toward a particular position?— Tkwak5 ( talk) 02:53, 16 November 2016 (UTC). Cite And Website References http://www.medicaldaily.com/tiger-moms-may-help-their-kids-succeed-it-comes-psychological-cost-304606— Tkwak5 ( talk) 02:53, 16 November 2016 (UTC). http://www.economist.com/blogs/banyan/2011/05/depressed_students_south_Korea— Tkwak5 ( talk) 02:53, 16 November 2016 (UTC). Answers: 1. The fact seem to come from a reliable reference as both website use many examples to prove their studies such as the book of "Amy Chua’s Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother", a 2011 book that compared and contrast the traditional Chinese upbringings to those of the Western kind. As well as a survey released by the Institute for Social Development Studies that shows that Korean teenagers suffer stress and depression the most compare to other kids in other countries. These multiple sources and evidence that they use books and survey shows that they use reliable references.— Tkwak5 ( talk) 02:53, 16 November 2016 (UTC). 2. The articles seem to be neutral from what how I read through the articles. Like my answers above, they use multiple references such as books and surveys to show evidence and why tiger moms give stress to their kids. There was no "I believe" or "I think" from their articles. So from what I read from the articles, I frimly believe that they there are no heavy biased toward what they talk about. Everything seems pretty fair and neutral.— Tkwak5 ( talk) 02:53, 16 November 2016 (UTC). By Tkwak5— Tkwak5 ( talk) 02:53, 16 November 2016 (UTC).
The result of the move request was: Moved to Tiger parenting. There's rough consensus to move to this title and review of the article shows that, although the content started with focus on "mother" instance of the practice; this has gradually expanded to more about the whole concept than from single perspective. And naturally so will continue as the article keeps expanding. ( non-admin closure) – Ammarpad ( talk) 06:38, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
Tiger mother → Tiger parent – Sources (e.g. APA in 2013 - see references 6 and 7 on the main page) have quickly broadened the term from simply mother to parent. The recent case of Jennifer Pan highlights the devastating role that a "tiger father" can play on a child. The article uses the term "parent/ing" 54 times (vs. mother/s 29 times), and should therefore be renamed to reflect this broader and more inclusive viewpoint. JabberJaw (talk) 02:37, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
@ Backendgaming: Why do you keep erasing "South and Southeast Asia" from the lead and the rest of the article? I've added two sources confirming the method is prevalent in countries in those regions, including one about Amy Chua speaking about tiger mums of India. So what is your problem? The second sources literally discusses the tiger parenting model among Singaporean Chinese, Malay and Indian parents. So why do you keep removing it? Can we please solve this? ( 101.160.137.188 ( talk) 00:43, 25 March 2018 (UTC))
Not a Wikipedia editor, but it looks like the lede might have a typo. The first sentence reads: "Tiger mom is a form of strict parenting, whereby parents are highly invested in ensuring their children's success."
Surely, given the name of the article and the type of noun, it should read "Tiger parenting is a form of strict parenting," right? 50.117.135.97 ( talk) 18:55, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
I think the most content are related to the article topic. But I think the sources that chosen by author is too limited and biased which is not neutral enough. Under the title effect, it is mainly talking about the negative effect on tiger parents instead of the other reasons why this situation appears in some Asian countries instead of the western countries. It didn’t talk about the traditional Chinese family or Asian family background on how their parents have a early tough life so that they hope their children have a better life of the future and so on. I think the author needs to introduce more based on the Chinese family background and develop the idea of tiger parents and build a completed image of how it appear and how it affect. X5mao ( talk) 07:25, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
Upper class colonial era whites were traditionally subjected to very strict schooling, thought necessary to thrive in hostile environments, that ultimately depressed their fertility rates as they stopped associating childhood with happiness. It's an Anglo issue in general. 50.96.89.104 ( talk) 50.96.89.104 ( talk) 13:24, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
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In the section Effects, there are way too many negative consequences of tiger parenting that overweigh the positive consequences of tiger parenting. WP:NPOV states that the article should not give any undue weight to any viewpoint. What should be done is that more paragraphs about the positive side of tiger parenting should be added to the section. DSCrowned( talk) 09:19, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
For most of the articles I read about the tiger moms, it seem to be considered abusive by many nowadays. Do you think that it is abusive or if the tiger moms teachings are appropriate and needed for the children's in Asia? [1]
Another question to be about the childrens in Asia developing depression and self-loath faster than most. What do you think is needed to stop this? [2]
By Tkwak5 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tkwak5 ( talk • contribs) 21:15, November 13, 2016 (UTC)
References
Questions: 1. Is each fact referenced with an appropriate, reliable reference?— Tkwak5 ( talk) 02:53, 16 November 2016 (UTC). 2. Is the article neutral? Are there any claims, or frames, that appear heavily biased toward a particular position?— Tkwak5 ( talk) 02:53, 16 November 2016 (UTC). Cite And Website References http://www.medicaldaily.com/tiger-moms-may-help-their-kids-succeed-it-comes-psychological-cost-304606— Tkwak5 ( talk) 02:53, 16 November 2016 (UTC). http://www.economist.com/blogs/banyan/2011/05/depressed_students_south_Korea— Tkwak5 ( talk) 02:53, 16 November 2016 (UTC). Answers: 1. The fact seem to come from a reliable reference as both website use many examples to prove their studies such as the book of "Amy Chua’s Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother", a 2011 book that compared and contrast the traditional Chinese upbringings to those of the Western kind. As well as a survey released by the Institute for Social Development Studies that shows that Korean teenagers suffer stress and depression the most compare to other kids in other countries. These multiple sources and evidence that they use books and survey shows that they use reliable references.— Tkwak5 ( talk) 02:53, 16 November 2016 (UTC). 2. The articles seem to be neutral from what how I read through the articles. Like my answers above, they use multiple references such as books and surveys to show evidence and why tiger moms give stress to their kids. There was no "I believe" or "I think" from their articles. So from what I read from the articles, I frimly believe that they there are no heavy biased toward what they talk about. Everything seems pretty fair and neutral.— Tkwak5 ( talk) 02:53, 16 November 2016 (UTC). By Tkwak5— Tkwak5 ( talk) 02:53, 16 November 2016 (UTC).
The result of the move request was: Moved to Tiger parenting. There's rough consensus to move to this title and review of the article shows that, although the content started with focus on "mother" instance of the practice; this has gradually expanded to more about the whole concept than from single perspective. And naturally so will continue as the article keeps expanding. ( non-admin closure) – Ammarpad ( talk) 06:38, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
Tiger mother → Tiger parent – Sources (e.g. APA in 2013 - see references 6 and 7 on the main page) have quickly broadened the term from simply mother to parent. The recent case of Jennifer Pan highlights the devastating role that a "tiger father" can play on a child. The article uses the term "parent/ing" 54 times (vs. mother/s 29 times), and should therefore be renamed to reflect this broader and more inclusive viewpoint. JabberJaw (talk) 02:37, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
@ Backendgaming: Why do you keep erasing "South and Southeast Asia" from the lead and the rest of the article? I've added two sources confirming the method is prevalent in countries in those regions, including one about Amy Chua speaking about tiger mums of India. So what is your problem? The second sources literally discusses the tiger parenting model among Singaporean Chinese, Malay and Indian parents. So why do you keep removing it? Can we please solve this? ( 101.160.137.188 ( talk) 00:43, 25 March 2018 (UTC))
Not a Wikipedia editor, but it looks like the lede might have a typo. The first sentence reads: "Tiger mom is a form of strict parenting, whereby parents are highly invested in ensuring their children's success."
Surely, given the name of the article and the type of noun, it should read "Tiger parenting is a form of strict parenting," right? 50.117.135.97 ( talk) 18:55, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
I think the most content are related to the article topic. But I think the sources that chosen by author is too limited and biased which is not neutral enough. Under the title effect, it is mainly talking about the negative effect on tiger parents instead of the other reasons why this situation appears in some Asian countries instead of the western countries. It didn’t talk about the traditional Chinese family or Asian family background on how their parents have a early tough life so that they hope their children have a better life of the future and so on. I think the author needs to introduce more based on the Chinese family background and develop the idea of tiger parents and build a completed image of how it appear and how it affect. X5mao ( talk) 07:25, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
Upper class colonial era whites were traditionally subjected to very strict schooling, thought necessary to thrive in hostile environments, that ultimately depressed their fertility rates as they stopped associating childhood with happiness. It's an Anglo issue in general. 50.96.89.104 ( talk) 50.96.89.104 ( talk) 13:24, 23 November 2022 (UTC)