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This was added to the end of the lede, and while it's not patent nonsense, it's pretty badly written (nobody owns Tiandihui, of course) and lacks sources. If someone can rewrite this with clear source, and the incident is significant enough to not cause undue weight, then please do so. Thanks. hateless 02:05, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
-- Gisling ( talk) 00:40, 16 August 2012 (UTC).
This article is totally biased from the HK point of view. The Hong Men was started in the 1600's in Shanghai or that region. Its heyday came in Shanghai in the 1930's. Then it jumped to Taiwan after 1949. The HK groups are mere offshoots of a much more pervasive and powerful group. In Taiwan, government and gangs are intertwined.
This has to do with the nature of Chinese society. Men may choose the official path, but many others join gangs and end up as powerful as officials, if not more powerful.. I know this from first hand sources.
This writer is trying to clean up the image of Triads in HK, not describe the entire organization and its history, Requires massive revision. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.206.88.205 ( talk) 02:26, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
What's the precise connection with Chee Kung Tong which is also called "hongmen" ? 46.212.30.35 ( talk) 07:02, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
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This was added to the end of the lede, and while it's not patent nonsense, it's pretty badly written (nobody owns Tiandihui, of course) and lacks sources. If someone can rewrite this with clear source, and the incident is significant enough to not cause undue weight, then please do so. Thanks. hateless 02:05, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
-- Gisling ( talk) 00:40, 16 August 2012 (UTC).
This article is totally biased from the HK point of view. The Hong Men was started in the 1600's in Shanghai or that region. Its heyday came in Shanghai in the 1930's. Then it jumped to Taiwan after 1949. The HK groups are mere offshoots of a much more pervasive and powerful group. In Taiwan, government and gangs are intertwined.
This has to do with the nature of Chinese society. Men may choose the official path, but many others join gangs and end up as powerful as officials, if not more powerful.. I know this from first hand sources.
This writer is trying to clean up the image of Triads in HK, not describe the entire organization and its history, Requires massive revision. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.206.88.205 ( talk) 02:26, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
What's the precise connection with Chee Kung Tong which is also called "hongmen" ? 46.212.30.35 ( talk) 07:02, 14 May 2023 (UTC)