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I added the section called "Dangerous?" to differentiate between the type of thrombosis that can kill you vs. those that are innocuous but more likely to occur. My experience was that I had a superficial thrombosis which was not dangerous but all the information on the web regarding thrombosis/blood clots goes pretty quickly to "stroke, pulmonary embolism, heart attack, DEATH". So I blew an ER visit on finding out the difference between the two. Thought this would be helpful to people who will end up here to allay fears about the harmless versions. I put it near the top so that people who are trying to self diagnose would find it quickly. Hope I'm conforming to conventions and not stepping on any toes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bthegoodwin ( talk • contribs) 00:42, 2 August 2011 (UTC) Bthegoodwin ( talk) 00:59, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
I removed a stray/malformed image tag. I didn't see the image filename so I couldn't correct it.
I had a blood coming out of my penis while ejaculating....does anybody know what that is???????
I had surgery (lumpectomey w/ node removal) for breast cancer on 12/20/06. I am now in radaition treatments. Today they discovered two blood clots in my arm (the same as the side of breast cancer and node removal). They are treating me with herceptin(?) and coumadin. So many people have told me to be very careful and not break the blod clots as they could cause either a heart attack or brain anyerism(sp), both of which could be fatal.
Is this really true? Is this really that serious?
maximink Maximink 08:05, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
I don't know if this will still be helpful, but yes, this is considered a risk if you currently have a clot (also called a 'thrombus'). If you have a clot in your veins that won't break up and it gets disconnected from where it is attached in your arm, the next stop is your heart and brain. If it gets to your heart, it can stop blood, causing a heart attack; if it gets to your brain, it can stop blood, causing a stroke. HOWEVER, are these clots still even there? They should have given you a drug or done surgery to get rid of the clots. Once they are gone, I do not believe you do not have to worry about accidentally breaking them up, right? And if you are on coumadin, I think they must have done something to get rid of those clots. Ask your medical provider and find out about those clots.
You said you are on herceptin for this...hmmm. Well, herceptin is for breast cancer. So I bet you are on herceptin for breast cancer and just coumadin for the clotting. Coumadin does not break up clots, it keeps you from forming new clots. You do have to be careful when you are on coumadin b/c you can't stop bleeding as well if you get hurt (because of that whole anti-clotting thing).
All of this information is given as a student nurse and is not meant to be taken as medical advice, just to explain the patho in plain language--see your doctor!!
Shula100 12:31, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
I wonder, if Virchow's triad covers dehydration as a source (maybe "composition of the blood")... Vis-a-vis L. McPherson (the scientologists say, that dehydration cannot cause thrombosis...; the attorney of a relative of McPherson says, that dehydration can cause thrombosis; the GERM wikipedia ( de:Thrombose) says, that dehydration can cause thrombosis; and IIRC a paper in the seat pocket in an aircraft told me, that dehydration can cause thrombosis)... The article here does not say, if thrombosis can be caused by dehydration... at least not as clearly as I would like it... Even if it is proven, that dehydration cannot cause thrombosis, we should mention that in the article for maximum clarification... Thx. -- Homer Landskirty 18:48, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Venous thrombosis less common in those with participate in sports doi: 10.1111/j.1538-7836.2007.02732.x JFW | T@lk 06:43, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
I do not think a Virchow's Quadrate exists. I've only heard of the Virchow's Triad. Can anyone explain? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Drteoh ( talk • contribs) 19:27, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
I doubt that Reginald VelJohnson was the one that coined the term, considering he is an actor that was not alive during the year listed. JoeyFNK ( talk) 02:58, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Malignancy is more common in VTE, with the usual suspects standing out: ovary, pancreas etc http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1538-7836.2008.02928.x JFW | T@lk 08:38, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
This vital article (I have changed the importance to "top") is presently in a ghastly state, which is always a good thing when MCOTW comes crashing in with power tools.
Let's see how this one goes. JFW | T@lk 06:28, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
http://asheducationbook.hematologylibrary.org/cgi/content/full/2005/1/1 - is an excellent introduction on venous thrombosis by Rosendaal. JFW | T@lk 22:49, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
I think the article would be improved with some expansion to the section on Causes. The serpinopathy section of another article claims that "Well characterised serpinopathies include emphysema, cirrhosis, thrombosis and dementia." and provides a citation. I suspect there may be other causes as well, but was surprised to find this article mentioning nothing on it at all about the serpin connection that has apparently now been established. N2e ( talk) 19:06, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Couldn't be more timely. Free full text -- Steven Fruitsmaak ( Reply) 19:29, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Having suffered a VTE and being overweight or obese almost doubles the risk that it will happen again: http://archinte.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/168/15/1678 JFW | T@lk 22:00, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
When I was a child, I used to read a lot of "real life medicine" stories and one which stuck out involving a lady who exercised compulsively (I believe the story involved her substituting exercise for prior over-eating) and the sheer number of thigh exercises she did lead to a thrombus in her thigh which started blocking all blood flow. I thought I remember a similar story in the "The Dark Side of the Moo" article on Chung Moo Quan, but it turns out that was a case of compartment syndrome. Anyone with more knowledge know whether it's plausible that the first case was indeed an exercise-related thrombus? I'm afraid the only other case I remember clearly involved a girl overdosing on a particular type of carotene supplements which were being marketed as FDA-approved tanning pills (They were FDA approved, but only for food dye and at much lower dosages). - 67.171.65.251 ( talk) 02:23, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
I note the following:
I know the difference between "venous" (in the vein) and "arterial" (in the artery).
This article contains information about both "venous" and "arterial" thrombosis. It seems to me that this would be a better structure:
The link to hypoxia should probably be more correctly linked to ischemia . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taxtropel ( talk • contribs) 20:15, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
By ISTH doi:10.1111/jth.12725 JFW | T@lk 19:24, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
doi:10.1182/blood-2016-05-718114 JFW | T@lk 11:21, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
Some content was added about folic acid deficiency being a risk factor for thrombosis by elevating homocysteine. Firstly, it was added to the opening paragraph on the pathogenesis, whereas hyperhomocysteinaemia still fits within Virchow's triad. Secondly, I am not aware of good epidemiological evidence that folic acid deficiency is actually associated with increased thrombosis risk. Biochemical plausibility does not mean real world association. JFW | T@lk 08:59, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
from the article: "However, thromboprophylaxis can lead to complications such as bleeding. There are new, non-invasive ways to stratify bleeding risk for patients with VTE and PE, by using tools like the RIETE Registry. The RIETE registry is an interactive database which uses data from previous and current patients, even groups not typically recruited like women and elderly as well as those with pre-existing conditions like Cancer or renal failure. The RIETE Registry offers more personalized options for patients with clotting risk, and it also has created a predictive calculator based on the registry's findings.[31]" I looked at the reference and it is a calculator of risk ONLY for thromboembolism, not thrombosis. (We all know the difference, right?). I will wait for comments before moving it to thromboembolism. Best Regards,
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I added the section called "Dangerous?" to differentiate between the type of thrombosis that can kill you vs. those that are innocuous but more likely to occur. My experience was that I had a superficial thrombosis which was not dangerous but all the information on the web regarding thrombosis/blood clots goes pretty quickly to "stroke, pulmonary embolism, heart attack, DEATH". So I blew an ER visit on finding out the difference between the two. Thought this would be helpful to people who will end up here to allay fears about the harmless versions. I put it near the top so that people who are trying to self diagnose would find it quickly. Hope I'm conforming to conventions and not stepping on any toes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bthegoodwin ( talk • contribs) 00:42, 2 August 2011 (UTC) Bthegoodwin ( talk) 00:59, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
I removed a stray/malformed image tag. I didn't see the image filename so I couldn't correct it.
I had a blood coming out of my penis while ejaculating....does anybody know what that is???????
I had surgery (lumpectomey w/ node removal) for breast cancer on 12/20/06. I am now in radaition treatments. Today they discovered two blood clots in my arm (the same as the side of breast cancer and node removal). They are treating me with herceptin(?) and coumadin. So many people have told me to be very careful and not break the blod clots as they could cause either a heart attack or brain anyerism(sp), both of which could be fatal.
Is this really true? Is this really that serious?
maximink Maximink 08:05, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
I don't know if this will still be helpful, but yes, this is considered a risk if you currently have a clot (also called a 'thrombus'). If you have a clot in your veins that won't break up and it gets disconnected from where it is attached in your arm, the next stop is your heart and brain. If it gets to your heart, it can stop blood, causing a heart attack; if it gets to your brain, it can stop blood, causing a stroke. HOWEVER, are these clots still even there? They should have given you a drug or done surgery to get rid of the clots. Once they are gone, I do not believe you do not have to worry about accidentally breaking them up, right? And if you are on coumadin, I think they must have done something to get rid of those clots. Ask your medical provider and find out about those clots.
You said you are on herceptin for this...hmmm. Well, herceptin is for breast cancer. So I bet you are on herceptin for breast cancer and just coumadin for the clotting. Coumadin does not break up clots, it keeps you from forming new clots. You do have to be careful when you are on coumadin b/c you can't stop bleeding as well if you get hurt (because of that whole anti-clotting thing).
All of this information is given as a student nurse and is not meant to be taken as medical advice, just to explain the patho in plain language--see your doctor!!
Shula100 12:31, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
I wonder, if Virchow's triad covers dehydration as a source (maybe "composition of the blood")... Vis-a-vis L. McPherson (the scientologists say, that dehydration cannot cause thrombosis...; the attorney of a relative of McPherson says, that dehydration can cause thrombosis; the GERM wikipedia ( de:Thrombose) says, that dehydration can cause thrombosis; and IIRC a paper in the seat pocket in an aircraft told me, that dehydration can cause thrombosis)... The article here does not say, if thrombosis can be caused by dehydration... at least not as clearly as I would like it... Even if it is proven, that dehydration cannot cause thrombosis, we should mention that in the article for maximum clarification... Thx. -- Homer Landskirty 18:48, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Venous thrombosis less common in those with participate in sports doi: 10.1111/j.1538-7836.2007.02732.x JFW | T@lk 06:43, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
I do not think a Virchow's Quadrate exists. I've only heard of the Virchow's Triad. Can anyone explain? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Drteoh ( talk • contribs) 19:27, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
I doubt that Reginald VelJohnson was the one that coined the term, considering he is an actor that was not alive during the year listed. JoeyFNK ( talk) 02:58, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Malignancy is more common in VTE, with the usual suspects standing out: ovary, pancreas etc http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1538-7836.2008.02928.x JFW | T@lk 08:38, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
This vital article (I have changed the importance to "top") is presently in a ghastly state, which is always a good thing when MCOTW comes crashing in with power tools.
Let's see how this one goes. JFW | T@lk 06:28, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
http://asheducationbook.hematologylibrary.org/cgi/content/full/2005/1/1 - is an excellent introduction on venous thrombosis by Rosendaal. JFW | T@lk 22:49, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
I think the article would be improved with some expansion to the section on Causes. The serpinopathy section of another article claims that "Well characterised serpinopathies include emphysema, cirrhosis, thrombosis and dementia." and provides a citation. I suspect there may be other causes as well, but was surprised to find this article mentioning nothing on it at all about the serpin connection that has apparently now been established. N2e ( talk) 19:06, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Couldn't be more timely. Free full text -- Steven Fruitsmaak ( Reply) 19:29, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Having suffered a VTE and being overweight or obese almost doubles the risk that it will happen again: http://archinte.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/168/15/1678 JFW | T@lk 22:00, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
When I was a child, I used to read a lot of "real life medicine" stories and one which stuck out involving a lady who exercised compulsively (I believe the story involved her substituting exercise for prior over-eating) and the sheer number of thigh exercises she did lead to a thrombus in her thigh which started blocking all blood flow. I thought I remember a similar story in the "The Dark Side of the Moo" article on Chung Moo Quan, but it turns out that was a case of compartment syndrome. Anyone with more knowledge know whether it's plausible that the first case was indeed an exercise-related thrombus? I'm afraid the only other case I remember clearly involved a girl overdosing on a particular type of carotene supplements which were being marketed as FDA-approved tanning pills (They were FDA approved, but only for food dye and at much lower dosages). - 67.171.65.251 ( talk) 02:23, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
I note the following:
I know the difference between "venous" (in the vein) and "arterial" (in the artery).
This article contains information about both "venous" and "arterial" thrombosis. It seems to me that this would be a better structure:
The link to hypoxia should probably be more correctly linked to ischemia . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taxtropel ( talk • contribs) 20:15, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
By ISTH doi:10.1111/jth.12725 JFW | T@lk 19:24, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
doi:10.1182/blood-2016-05-718114 JFW | T@lk 11:21, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
Some content was added about folic acid deficiency being a risk factor for thrombosis by elevating homocysteine. Firstly, it was added to the opening paragraph on the pathogenesis, whereas hyperhomocysteinaemia still fits within Virchow's triad. Secondly, I am not aware of good epidemiological evidence that folic acid deficiency is actually associated with increased thrombosis risk. Biochemical plausibility does not mean real world association. JFW | T@lk 08:59, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
from the article: "However, thromboprophylaxis can lead to complications such as bleeding. There are new, non-invasive ways to stratify bleeding risk for patients with VTE and PE, by using tools like the RIETE Registry. The RIETE registry is an interactive database which uses data from previous and current patients, even groups not typically recruited like women and elderly as well as those with pre-existing conditions like Cancer or renal failure. The RIETE Registry offers more personalized options for patients with clotting risk, and it also has created a predictive calculator based on the registry's findings.[31]" I looked at the reference and it is a calculator of risk ONLY for thromboembolism, not thrombosis. (We all know the difference, right?). I will wait for comments before moving it to thromboembolism. Best Regards,