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Irishpunktom, please quote from the article and point out to me where he compares islamophobia to Nazism of the 1930s. Otherwise, stop reverting. -- Karl Meier 16:17, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
Can I suggest that we set up separate articles for the cabinets of various prime ministers? This gives us an opportunity to write about the events and legacies of these cabinets as well. -- Leifern 23:28, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
This article is currently on the frontpage of nrk.no ( Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation): http://nrk.no/nyheter/1.3364975
A few minutes ago, this article claimed Jagland was a pedophile. Appearantly, wikipedia vandalism is frontpage-news worthy. Here is a translation of what Odd Erik Stende, Norwegian Labour Partys representative, had to say about it: - We will take any step necessary to remove this.
Any step except editing the goddamn wikipedia page, it seems, as this was up until a few minutes ago. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.48.55.71 ( talk) 16:27, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't we simply leave out the replacements for his seat in the Storting during his tenures as Prime Minister? __ meco ( talk) 08:01, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
I do not think this article is ready for GA. While it probably meets most of the criteria, it fails on 3(a), namely "it addresses the main aspects of the topic"; this must be understood within the context that Wikipedia articles have an "ideal" length, and that as far as possible, articles should strive to reach these. There is no length requirement in GA, but if more could be said about the topic, the article should be increased up to the ideal length. Such an ideal length is probably four time the current.
I also fear that many vital parts of Jagland's life are missing. For instance, the article has more on the AUF membership scandal, than it does on his period as Prime Minister (the "highlight" of his career). Can we not say more than one paragraph about him leading a government for a year? (Okay, maybe all we remember ten years afterwards is the Norwegian house, but at the time there must have been many important isues that we have forgotten now.) Also, during his nineteen months as Minister of Foreign Affairs, he must have been to more countries than just Sri Lanka and China. On top of this, the article is spending one sentence on his birth and education, one on his local political activity, one on his four years as leader of AUF, one on being general secretary of Norway's largest party for six years, one of being a MP for seven years, and one on his ten years of leadership in Norway's largest party (save the event of not being reelected in 2002).
Another area of importance is that of his ideology. He is generally considered to be on the right wing of the Labour Party, and a very keen supporter of EU membership. Neither of these are mentioned by a word. To be more precise, the article does not take up a single political opinion, except that of Australia's denial of refugees. My point here is that when the GA nominator comes in a week or four, they will probably point out this (plus a bucket of other stuff in my experience), so it would be best to start working on the expansion now, so the article is put on hold insted of just failed. Arsenikk (talk) 15:50, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
10 February 2009
10 February 2009
(UK) or February 10, 2009
(US), and nothing else. Choose one formatting for each article. If only a month and year are stated, there is never a comma in between.Was the Synnøve Svabø case really a scandal? Punkmorten ( talk) 20:10, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Those of us who spend of spare time reading the Manual of Style, can of course quote the policy on any word another would like to include:
The words scandal, affair, and -gate are often used in journalism to describe a controversial episode or in politics to discredit opponents. They typically imply wrongdoing or a point of view. The use of one of these words in an article should be qualified by attributing it to the party that uses it. They should not be used in article titles on current affairs, except in historical cases where the term is widely used by reputable historical sources (e.g., Teapot Dome scandal, Dreyfus affair or Spygate).
Regards, Arsenikk (talk) 21:53, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Are there too many quotes; are all quotes in this article necessary? (I'm not thinking about his infamous quotes, but rather about people's reactions to different things.) What do others think? Punkmorten ( talk) 20:12, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
This piece of news was described in the article. I took the liberty to remove it, for the following reason: "I don't see why a reader interested in Jagland's career would want to read about this". Punkmorten ( talk) 19:21, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
I removed the incorrect claim that he is an "economist". An economist is someone who has a higher degree in economics and somehow works as an economist. Jagland studied economics for some time, passing the "1. avdeling" ("first division") exam, but quit his studies when he became too occupied with politics. He has never had a "civilian" (i.e. non-political) profession. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fiskandsoup ( talk • contribs) 16:43, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
Some reference to his participation in ICANN strategy panel should perhaps be added
http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-2-17nov13-en.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.105.196.158 ( talk) 08:31, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
An issue the article does not make clear and out to be added: When Bondevik's first cabinet fell in 2000, why was Jens Stoltenberg appointed PM instead of Thorbjørn Jagland (who was still the party leader)? Anywikiuser ( talk) 21:09, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
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I find this page to be somewhat misleading and lacking in not only detail but information in general. The author of the page seems to be part of the bully group of the 1990’s and the page is quite one sided. More information should either be added or the page should be marked as incomplete and possibly partial. 84.208.186.147 ( talk) 10:10, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
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![]() | A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the "
Did you know?" column on
April 7, 2008. The text of the entry was: Did you know ...that the
cabinet of former
Norwegian Prime Minister
Thorbjørn Jagland resigned following a 1.9% drop in the
popular vote? |
Irishpunktom, please quote from the article and point out to me where he compares islamophobia to Nazism of the 1930s. Otherwise, stop reverting. -- Karl Meier 16:17, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
Can I suggest that we set up separate articles for the cabinets of various prime ministers? This gives us an opportunity to write about the events and legacies of these cabinets as well. -- Leifern 23:28, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
This article is currently on the frontpage of nrk.no ( Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation): http://nrk.no/nyheter/1.3364975
A few minutes ago, this article claimed Jagland was a pedophile. Appearantly, wikipedia vandalism is frontpage-news worthy. Here is a translation of what Odd Erik Stende, Norwegian Labour Partys representative, had to say about it: - We will take any step necessary to remove this.
Any step except editing the goddamn wikipedia page, it seems, as this was up until a few minutes ago. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.48.55.71 ( talk) 16:27, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't we simply leave out the replacements for his seat in the Storting during his tenures as Prime Minister? __ meco ( talk) 08:01, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
I do not think this article is ready for GA. While it probably meets most of the criteria, it fails on 3(a), namely "it addresses the main aspects of the topic"; this must be understood within the context that Wikipedia articles have an "ideal" length, and that as far as possible, articles should strive to reach these. There is no length requirement in GA, but if more could be said about the topic, the article should be increased up to the ideal length. Such an ideal length is probably four time the current.
I also fear that many vital parts of Jagland's life are missing. For instance, the article has more on the AUF membership scandal, than it does on his period as Prime Minister (the "highlight" of his career). Can we not say more than one paragraph about him leading a government for a year? (Okay, maybe all we remember ten years afterwards is the Norwegian house, but at the time there must have been many important isues that we have forgotten now.) Also, during his nineteen months as Minister of Foreign Affairs, he must have been to more countries than just Sri Lanka and China. On top of this, the article is spending one sentence on his birth and education, one on his local political activity, one on his four years as leader of AUF, one on being general secretary of Norway's largest party for six years, one of being a MP for seven years, and one on his ten years of leadership in Norway's largest party (save the event of not being reelected in 2002).
Another area of importance is that of his ideology. He is generally considered to be on the right wing of the Labour Party, and a very keen supporter of EU membership. Neither of these are mentioned by a word. To be more precise, the article does not take up a single political opinion, except that of Australia's denial of refugees. My point here is that when the GA nominator comes in a week or four, they will probably point out this (plus a bucket of other stuff in my experience), so it would be best to start working on the expansion now, so the article is put on hold insted of just failed. Arsenikk (talk) 15:50, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
10 February 2009
10 February 2009
(UK) or February 10, 2009
(US), and nothing else. Choose one formatting for each article. If only a month and year are stated, there is never a comma in between.Was the Synnøve Svabø case really a scandal? Punkmorten ( talk) 20:10, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Those of us who spend of spare time reading the Manual of Style, can of course quote the policy on any word another would like to include:
The words scandal, affair, and -gate are often used in journalism to describe a controversial episode or in politics to discredit opponents. They typically imply wrongdoing or a point of view. The use of one of these words in an article should be qualified by attributing it to the party that uses it. They should not be used in article titles on current affairs, except in historical cases where the term is widely used by reputable historical sources (e.g., Teapot Dome scandal, Dreyfus affair or Spygate).
Regards, Arsenikk (talk) 21:53, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Are there too many quotes; are all quotes in this article necessary? (I'm not thinking about his infamous quotes, but rather about people's reactions to different things.) What do others think? Punkmorten ( talk) 20:12, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
This piece of news was described in the article. I took the liberty to remove it, for the following reason: "I don't see why a reader interested in Jagland's career would want to read about this". Punkmorten ( talk) 19:21, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
I removed the incorrect claim that he is an "economist". An economist is someone who has a higher degree in economics and somehow works as an economist. Jagland studied economics for some time, passing the "1. avdeling" ("first division") exam, but quit his studies when he became too occupied with politics. He has never had a "civilian" (i.e. non-political) profession. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fiskandsoup ( talk • contribs) 16:43, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
Some reference to his participation in ICANN strategy panel should perhaps be added
http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-2-17nov13-en.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.105.196.158 ( talk) 08:31, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
An issue the article does not make clear and out to be added: When Bondevik's first cabinet fell in 2000, why was Jens Stoltenberg appointed PM instead of Thorbjørn Jagland (who was still the party leader)? Anywikiuser ( talk) 21:09, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
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I find this page to be somewhat misleading and lacking in not only detail but information in general. The author of the page seems to be part of the bully group of the 1990’s and the page is quite one sided. More information should either be added or the page should be marked as incomplete and possibly partial. 84.208.186.147 ( talk) 10:10, 11 May 2022 (UTC)