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I'm biased since I took it, but I like the photo which has the closeup of the building
, rather than more of the lawn
. I'm not going to change it, but if someone else were to take a look at them both and decide ... dm ( talk) 22:23, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Following two chunks of material (and more) were added to the article. If past patterns were repeated, they would be deleted from the article for various reasons. I'd like to discuss these chunks and possibly restore them to the article, with modifications.
Chunk 1:
The cottage was moved to its current location at 20 Sicard Avenue, on land that was also part of the 300-acre (1.2 km2) farm owned by Paine, in 1908. [1] The house, which was declared a National Historic Landmark in 1972, is currently operated as a museum. [2] [1]
Reference:
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"Accompanying 2 photos, exterior, from 1971" (PDF). (1.08 MB)
This sounds factual and seems to be written well. It seems better than the current article. Since chunk 1 ends with footnote references, I assume that means all the material is sourced from that footnoted references. Let's check and discuss that? I'll check those documents, within a day or so about this matter, anyhow, and then likely want to restore this passage.
Chunk 2:
The Thomas Paine Monument is adjacent to the cottage. It was first erected in 1839 and topped by a bronze bust of Paine by Wilson McDonald that was added 1881. The monument was re-located to its present site in 1905 and stands next to Paine’s original burial site. Also next to the cottage is the Paine Memorial House, a two-story stone structure erected in 1925 by the Thomas Paine Historical Association. The house contains a number of Paine's personal effects, including the trunk in which he carried the papers of the Second Continental Congress and several first editions of his works.
This sounds factual but no source is given. Can a source for this material be given, please? I would be happy to receive an emailed copy of any scanned or other electronic document supporting this. If a source can't be provided, though, I cannot argue against keeping it out of the article. Please comment.
Discussion of other chunks of material would be similar; let's try to discuss these pieces, arbitrarily, first, either here or by email. Thanks! doncram ( talk) 12:45, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
A fact from Thomas Paine Cottage appeared on Wikipedia's
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I'm biased since I took it, but I like the photo which has the closeup of the building
, rather than more of the lawn
. I'm not going to change it, but if someone else were to take a look at them both and decide ... dm ( talk) 22:23, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Following two chunks of material (and more) were added to the article. If past patterns were repeated, they would be deleted from the article for various reasons. I'd like to discuss these chunks and possibly restore them to the article, with modifications.
Chunk 1:
The cottage was moved to its current location at 20 Sicard Avenue, on land that was also part of the 300-acre (1.2 km2) farm owned by Paine, in 1908. [1] The house, which was declared a National Historic Landmark in 1972, is currently operated as a museum. [2] [1]
Reference:
{{
citation}}
: External link in |title=
(
help); templatestyles stripmarker in |title=
at position 1 (
help) and
"Accompanying 2 photos, exterior, from 1971" (PDF). (1.08 MB)
This sounds factual and seems to be written well. It seems better than the current article. Since chunk 1 ends with footnote references, I assume that means all the material is sourced from that footnoted references. Let's check and discuss that? I'll check those documents, within a day or so about this matter, anyhow, and then likely want to restore this passage.
Chunk 2:
The Thomas Paine Monument is adjacent to the cottage. It was first erected in 1839 and topped by a bronze bust of Paine by Wilson McDonald that was added 1881. The monument was re-located to its present site in 1905 and stands next to Paine’s original burial site. Also next to the cottage is the Paine Memorial House, a two-story stone structure erected in 1925 by the Thomas Paine Historical Association. The house contains a number of Paine's personal effects, including the trunk in which he carried the papers of the Second Continental Congress and several first editions of his works.
This sounds factual but no source is given. Can a source for this material be given, please? I would be happy to receive an emailed copy of any scanned or other electronic document supporting this. If a source can't be provided, though, I cannot argue against keeping it out of the article. Please comment.
Discussion of other chunks of material would be similar; let's try to discuss these pieces, arbitrarily, first, either here or by email. Thanks! doncram ( talk) 12:45, 19 January 2009 (UTC)