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Are we sure.

Some of the usual sources don't seem to think this title exists. At least they seem to argue it was created after James II lost the throne and such creations are null. Certainly I can find discussion of an heir on this title petitioning (1839) but failing at the committee of privileges to prove a claim and succeed to the title. Garlicplanting ( talk) 14:05, 7 September 2014 (UTC) reply

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Are we sure.

Some of the usual sources don't seem to think this title exists. At least they seem to argue it was created after James II lost the throne and such creations are null. Certainly I can find discussion of an heir on this title petitioning (1839) but failing at the committee of privileges to prove a claim and succeed to the title. Garlicplanting ( talk) 14:05, 7 September 2014 (UTC) reply


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