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The following sentence was removed from the main article: "He has been accused of being a Republican In Name Only (RINO) by conservatives. [1]"
While the charge is out there, the us of a post to a blog to support the statement is questionable. A search of Google News was unsuccessful in identifying a more mainstream source. Please reinsert with an appropriate link. Alansohn 16:00, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
Regarding the following passage:
"There has been much speculation that Kean will drop out of the race because of heavy conservative opposition in relatiation for his father's role on the 9/11 Commission, which was criticized by some conservatives..."
This seems to be highly likely to be POV (or maybe the author's wishful thinking) and also UNSOURCED.
If after the press conference on March 27, Kean is still in the race, then let's take the passage out.
69.39.172.90 09:21, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi Abe. You're obviously an experienced Wikipedia user. You are no doubt familiar with the concept of original research, and how it is highly discouraged here. You have repeatedly added material of original research to the Thomas Kean Jr. page today. I removed this material because you did not provide a source. You reverted this change, and tried to use Wikipedia as a source. The pages you linked to also do not cite their source. This is clearly a case of original research. I must ask that you remove this material until you can provide a reputable source for these facts. I am not disagreeing with the facts, or claiming that they are in any way incorrect or falsified. I just want a reputable, verifiable source.
Furthermore, I fail to see the significance of the median income value of these districts. It appears out of context and does not relate to the paragraph.
Please note that there is an article specifically for this campaign/race/election. The section on the election in the Thomas Kean Jr. article (and in the Menendez article, which I've already changed) should be a BRIEF summary of the race; interested readers can then go to the main article. Among other things, this means that there should only be ONE place to get into discussions about text related to campaign events, rather than THREE places (Kean, Menendez, and election article).
I'd welcome someone else moving most of the campaign text out of this article (I suspect that most of it is already in the campaign article); if no one else does it in a day or so, I will. John Broughton 12:51, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Normally I'd just revert changes by a new user that are so blatantly POV (in favor of Kean and against Menendez), but given the number of edits that Atarpatel did, I'm hoping that he/she might be willing to abide by wikipedia rules in doing edits in the future. So some comments:
I quite enjoyed reading your accusations that I am biased. I will admit to being new to wikipedia, but I'm trying to get rid of the blatant bias already existing in the article, such as citing the swift-boat ad as pretty much the only major occurrence in the race. Also, saying that Kean screwed up in the debate when comparing Westfield and Union City is completely wrong and judgmental - I actually believe it was a great move on him part. Also, where's all the info about how Menendez tried to prevent free speech during a Kean press conference in Jersey City?
Too be honest, you have no standing to say that I am biased when you clearly don't understand the meaning of the word. I do intend to continue editing this and other articles to make them as objective as possible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.142.229.154 ( talk • contribs) 03:12, 17 July 2006
While the article states that Kean opposes the administration's Social Security plan, I believe it needs to be made more specific. Senator Menendez claims otherwise, and the truth - from the article cited here - seems to be a little of both. Kean appears to support a slightly less drastic version of the administration plan - putting 2% into private accounts instead of 4% - which may not be the biggest distinction in the world, but I believe it's worth expanding upon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.52.215.100 ( talk • contribs) 20:05, 9 October 2006
"Dirty WikiTricks" Bwithh 20:49, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
This whole section reads like it was written by a member of his staff or something. What gives? 98.168.192.162 ( talk) 02:44, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
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The following sentence was removed from the main article: "He has been accused of being a Republican In Name Only (RINO) by conservatives. [1]"
While the charge is out there, the us of a post to a blog to support the statement is questionable. A search of Google News was unsuccessful in identifying a more mainstream source. Please reinsert with an appropriate link. Alansohn 16:00, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
Regarding the following passage:
"There has been much speculation that Kean will drop out of the race because of heavy conservative opposition in relatiation for his father's role on the 9/11 Commission, which was criticized by some conservatives..."
This seems to be highly likely to be POV (or maybe the author's wishful thinking) and also UNSOURCED.
If after the press conference on March 27, Kean is still in the race, then let's take the passage out.
69.39.172.90 09:21, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi Abe. You're obviously an experienced Wikipedia user. You are no doubt familiar with the concept of original research, and how it is highly discouraged here. You have repeatedly added material of original research to the Thomas Kean Jr. page today. I removed this material because you did not provide a source. You reverted this change, and tried to use Wikipedia as a source. The pages you linked to also do not cite their source. This is clearly a case of original research. I must ask that you remove this material until you can provide a reputable source for these facts. I am not disagreeing with the facts, or claiming that they are in any way incorrect or falsified. I just want a reputable, verifiable source.
Furthermore, I fail to see the significance of the median income value of these districts. It appears out of context and does not relate to the paragraph.
Please note that there is an article specifically for this campaign/race/election. The section on the election in the Thomas Kean Jr. article (and in the Menendez article, which I've already changed) should be a BRIEF summary of the race; interested readers can then go to the main article. Among other things, this means that there should only be ONE place to get into discussions about text related to campaign events, rather than THREE places (Kean, Menendez, and election article).
I'd welcome someone else moving most of the campaign text out of this article (I suspect that most of it is already in the campaign article); if no one else does it in a day or so, I will. John Broughton 12:51, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Normally I'd just revert changes by a new user that are so blatantly POV (in favor of Kean and against Menendez), but given the number of edits that Atarpatel did, I'm hoping that he/she might be willing to abide by wikipedia rules in doing edits in the future. So some comments:
I quite enjoyed reading your accusations that I am biased. I will admit to being new to wikipedia, but I'm trying to get rid of the blatant bias already existing in the article, such as citing the swift-boat ad as pretty much the only major occurrence in the race. Also, saying that Kean screwed up in the debate when comparing Westfield and Union City is completely wrong and judgmental - I actually believe it was a great move on him part. Also, where's all the info about how Menendez tried to prevent free speech during a Kean press conference in Jersey City?
Too be honest, you have no standing to say that I am biased when you clearly don't understand the meaning of the word. I do intend to continue editing this and other articles to make them as objective as possible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.142.229.154 ( talk • contribs) 03:12, 17 July 2006
While the article states that Kean opposes the administration's Social Security plan, I believe it needs to be made more specific. Senator Menendez claims otherwise, and the truth - from the article cited here - seems to be a little of both. Kean appears to support a slightly less drastic version of the administration plan - putting 2% into private accounts instead of 4% - which may not be the biggest distinction in the world, but I believe it's worth expanding upon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.52.215.100 ( talk • contribs) 20:05, 9 October 2006
"Dirty WikiTricks" Bwithh 20:49, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
This whole section reads like it was written by a member of his staff or something. What gives? 98.168.192.162 ( talk) 02:44, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
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