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An excellent article, with quite frankly the best and most thorough family background I've ever seen in an article! I have just a few small concerns before I can promote this article to GA status.
Other than that, it's an amazing well-written article and I hope to pass it shortly. To that end, I have placed the nomination on hold for a period of up to seven days so that these minor corrections may be made, after which it may be failed without any further notice. Cheers, CP 22:14, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Could his assassination be related in any way to the assassination of James M. Hinds (December 5, 1833—October 22, 1868) who, according to Wikipedia, was also from Arkansas and killed less than a month later by members of the Ku Klux Klan?
Just so I am clear, in the 8 hours between the shots being fired and his death, he gave a speech on his porch while bleeding to death? Can this be made clearer? Thanks. 71.90.27.200 ( talk) 23:43, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
Does his last name have a long or a short i? Q·L· 1968 ☿ 00:53, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
This article could do with a once-over to check for any deterioration since its promotion to FA in 2007, whether it meets current FA standards, and at the very least, citing of the uncited material. At this stage, I don't think it needs to be looked at for FAR in any respect, but having some ACW buffs take a look and give it a spritz would probably be a good way of it falling foul of the old FA review process. Cheers, Peacemaker67 ( click to talk to me) 07:59, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
Does anyone have Neal's work? The article has an uncited date of Hindman returning to Arkansas in 1867, but Warner's Generals in Gray gives 1868 as the year that happened. Hog Farm Talk 22:08, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
This article needs a lot of work in sourcing. I'm adding this one to the noticed list. While this article is very much in my area of interest, I'm not sure that I can fix this by myself. If my wife lets me, I can get Neal pretty cheap off the internet, I can get Christ from the library, and I have books about Shiloh, but lacking Shea's work about Prairie Grove (had borrowed it from a relative as needed at times earlier, but have since moved several hours away), anything about Chickamauga, and with only a middling source about the Atlanta campaign, I'm worried that I wouldn't really be able to address this in a timely manner. At a minimum, access to Neal and Shea would be needed to repair this one. A serious work about Atlanta really ought to be consulted as well, and the same applies to Chickamauga (Cozzens's This Terrible Sound is a good one-volume treatment). This really needs FAR unless someone else pops up to at least tag team this, but I don't have the heart to bring it there myself. I also promised my wife that I wouldn't be purchasing any more books for a month or two after I overflowed a third bookcase in the apartment, so it would take me awhile to accumulate everything that would be needed. Hog Farm Talk 18:36, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
@ Nishkid64, Mike Christie, and Peacemaker67: - Any objections to me converting the referencing system to sfns? I think there are significant advantages to using sfns isntead of the ref tags, as it's helped me find referencing issues a couple times and makes it easier to tie cites directly to the books used. Hog Farm Talk 21:00, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
Once I get this fully written, I may have to trim it - it's already over 40kb of readable prose, and I'm only through the end of 1863, although the latter years of his life shouldn't require as much detail. There was simply a lot the article didn't include beforehand, such as his 1863 suspension from command. Hog Farm Talk 04:44, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
I primarily intend to be using Neal as the main bio source, supported by Warner and Symonds in places. (the print copy I got ahold of lists Kremm as a co-author) Moodey is a primary source that I intend to replace, and I anticipate replacing Nash as well because I'm not sold on that being particularly high-quality. Dougan can support Neal for the Arkansas Family stuff, and Shea and a few journal articles not yet used will be the backbone for the 1862 Arkansas material. For Chickamauga and Chattanooga, I plan on using Peter Cozzens's This Terrible Sound and The Shipwreck of Their Hopes, and for Atlanta, Albert E. Castel's Decision in the West. The postwar material will probably have to lean heavily on Neal with a light touch of Warner. I currently don't have copies of Woods 1987 or Mark Christ's Rugged and Sublime. I think I can manage without either, but have several ways to get ahold of either if anyone deems it necessary to include either. Any thoughts? I know the article is leaning in Neal pretty heavily even in some of the rewritten places, but I don't think it's entirely avoidable, as noted above, because there's only one usable dedicated biography of Hindman. Hog Farm Talk 19:18, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
Hog Farm requested that I look over this article. My comments follow. Some are error fixes and others are only suggestions. Djmaschek ( talk) 22:29, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
Thanks, @ Djmaschek:! Hog Farm Talk 22:56, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
Apologies for very piecemeal comments from iPad/car/hotspot editing.
On the night of September 27, while sitting in his home with his children, Hindman was shot through a window of his home. He was hit in the neck and jaw, and his windBecause this is the start of a new section, the year should be supplied. There are other sections that start with dates without year ... SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 15:47, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
Dr. Daniel A. Linthicum ...MOS:DOCTOR, was he a physician, M.D., what? Why do we need the Dr at all? SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 15:48, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
Public outcry led to Hindman's removal from his regional command, and he was defeated at the Battle of Prairie Grove in December.
Returning to politics, he opposed the Reconstruction Era government of Arkansas, and was assassinated late on September 27, 1868, dying the next morning....also, and died the next morning ...
[edit.... and an overpowering sense of starting sentences with after ...
I'm finding a bit more copyediting needs than I feel confident to tackle, especially from the car; I wonder if Z1720 might be enticed to look in? SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 16:06, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
Having been wounded at Shiloh, Hindman was promoted to major general and sent to the Trans-Mississippi Department, to command Arkansas, Missouri, the Indian Territory, and part of Louisiana.. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 15:06, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
fled to Mexico, but returned to Helena in 1867. Returning to politics,SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 15:08, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
Hindman was shot by an assassin at his home late on September 27, 1868, and died the next morning. Before his death, Hindman suggested the shooting was politically motivated, but the assassin is not known.How about ...
Hindman was shot by an unknown assassin at his home late on September 27, 1868, and died the next morning. Before his death, he suggested the shooting was politically motivated.SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 15:10, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
... where there was more room for his political ambitions.SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 15:14, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
Hindman's unit, the 2nd Mississippi, trained at Camp McClung near Vicksburg, Mississippi in January 1847, before being transferred to New Orleans, Louisiana.SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 20:00, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
His service included a time as a post adjutant at Mazafil from April 26 through May 1848.. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 20:02, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
Hindman's regiment returned to Mississippi later in 1848, where they received a welcoming barbeque in early August.SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 20:04, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
Stopping at Move to Arkansas to allow you time to repair any damage I've inflicted. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 20:53, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
Hog Farm, I've lost track of where we are here; best I can tell, at one point I wasn't happy with the prose, and wanted fresh eyes. Did that happen yet? Or can you think of someone we might pester? Or shall I keep plugging away, with the idea that I would be the third Satis ? Whatever you think best, ... SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 21:19, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
G'day, here are my thoughts as I go:
Down to "Opposing the Know-Nothings". More to come. Peacemaker67 ( click to talk to me) 10:34, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
Frankly, I'm pretty happy with this now. Peacemaker67 ( click to talk to me) 07:46, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
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An excellent article, with quite frankly the best and most thorough family background I've ever seen in an article! I have just a few small concerns before I can promote this article to GA status.
Other than that, it's an amazing well-written article and I hope to pass it shortly. To that end, I have placed the nomination on hold for a period of up to seven days so that these minor corrections may be made, after which it may be failed without any further notice. Cheers, CP 22:14, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Could his assassination be related in any way to the assassination of James M. Hinds (December 5, 1833—October 22, 1868) who, according to Wikipedia, was also from Arkansas and killed less than a month later by members of the Ku Klux Klan?
Just so I am clear, in the 8 hours between the shots being fired and his death, he gave a speech on his porch while bleeding to death? Can this be made clearer? Thanks. 71.90.27.200 ( talk) 23:43, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
Does his last name have a long or a short i? Q·L· 1968 ☿ 00:53, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
This article could do with a once-over to check for any deterioration since its promotion to FA in 2007, whether it meets current FA standards, and at the very least, citing of the uncited material. At this stage, I don't think it needs to be looked at for FAR in any respect, but having some ACW buffs take a look and give it a spritz would probably be a good way of it falling foul of the old FA review process. Cheers, Peacemaker67 ( click to talk to me) 07:59, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
Does anyone have Neal's work? The article has an uncited date of Hindman returning to Arkansas in 1867, but Warner's Generals in Gray gives 1868 as the year that happened. Hog Farm Talk 22:08, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
This article needs a lot of work in sourcing. I'm adding this one to the noticed list. While this article is very much in my area of interest, I'm not sure that I can fix this by myself. If my wife lets me, I can get Neal pretty cheap off the internet, I can get Christ from the library, and I have books about Shiloh, but lacking Shea's work about Prairie Grove (had borrowed it from a relative as needed at times earlier, but have since moved several hours away), anything about Chickamauga, and with only a middling source about the Atlanta campaign, I'm worried that I wouldn't really be able to address this in a timely manner. At a minimum, access to Neal and Shea would be needed to repair this one. A serious work about Atlanta really ought to be consulted as well, and the same applies to Chickamauga (Cozzens's This Terrible Sound is a good one-volume treatment). This really needs FAR unless someone else pops up to at least tag team this, but I don't have the heart to bring it there myself. I also promised my wife that I wouldn't be purchasing any more books for a month or two after I overflowed a third bookcase in the apartment, so it would take me awhile to accumulate everything that would be needed. Hog Farm Talk 18:36, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
@ Nishkid64, Mike Christie, and Peacemaker67: - Any objections to me converting the referencing system to sfns? I think there are significant advantages to using sfns isntead of the ref tags, as it's helped me find referencing issues a couple times and makes it easier to tie cites directly to the books used. Hog Farm Talk 21:00, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
Once I get this fully written, I may have to trim it - it's already over 40kb of readable prose, and I'm only through the end of 1863, although the latter years of his life shouldn't require as much detail. There was simply a lot the article didn't include beforehand, such as his 1863 suspension from command. Hog Farm Talk 04:44, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
I primarily intend to be using Neal as the main bio source, supported by Warner and Symonds in places. (the print copy I got ahold of lists Kremm as a co-author) Moodey is a primary source that I intend to replace, and I anticipate replacing Nash as well because I'm not sold on that being particularly high-quality. Dougan can support Neal for the Arkansas Family stuff, and Shea and a few journal articles not yet used will be the backbone for the 1862 Arkansas material. For Chickamauga and Chattanooga, I plan on using Peter Cozzens's This Terrible Sound and The Shipwreck of Their Hopes, and for Atlanta, Albert E. Castel's Decision in the West. The postwar material will probably have to lean heavily on Neal with a light touch of Warner. I currently don't have copies of Woods 1987 or Mark Christ's Rugged and Sublime. I think I can manage without either, but have several ways to get ahold of either if anyone deems it necessary to include either. Any thoughts? I know the article is leaning in Neal pretty heavily even in some of the rewritten places, but I don't think it's entirely avoidable, as noted above, because there's only one usable dedicated biography of Hindman. Hog Farm Talk 19:18, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
Hog Farm requested that I look over this article. My comments follow. Some are error fixes and others are only suggestions. Djmaschek ( talk) 22:29, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
Thanks, @ Djmaschek:! Hog Farm Talk 22:56, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
Apologies for very piecemeal comments from iPad/car/hotspot editing.
On the night of September 27, while sitting in his home with his children, Hindman was shot through a window of his home. He was hit in the neck and jaw, and his windBecause this is the start of a new section, the year should be supplied. There are other sections that start with dates without year ... SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 15:47, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
Dr. Daniel A. Linthicum ...MOS:DOCTOR, was he a physician, M.D., what? Why do we need the Dr at all? SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 15:48, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
Public outcry led to Hindman's removal from his regional command, and he was defeated at the Battle of Prairie Grove in December.
Returning to politics, he opposed the Reconstruction Era government of Arkansas, and was assassinated late on September 27, 1868, dying the next morning....also, and died the next morning ...
[edit.... and an overpowering sense of starting sentences with after ...
I'm finding a bit more copyediting needs than I feel confident to tackle, especially from the car; I wonder if Z1720 might be enticed to look in? SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 16:06, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
Having been wounded at Shiloh, Hindman was promoted to major general and sent to the Trans-Mississippi Department, to command Arkansas, Missouri, the Indian Territory, and part of Louisiana.. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 15:06, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
fled to Mexico, but returned to Helena in 1867. Returning to politics,SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 15:08, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
Hindman was shot by an assassin at his home late on September 27, 1868, and died the next morning. Before his death, Hindman suggested the shooting was politically motivated, but the assassin is not known.How about ...
Hindman was shot by an unknown assassin at his home late on September 27, 1868, and died the next morning. Before his death, he suggested the shooting was politically motivated.SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 15:10, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
... where there was more room for his political ambitions.SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 15:14, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
Hindman's unit, the 2nd Mississippi, trained at Camp McClung near Vicksburg, Mississippi in January 1847, before being transferred to New Orleans, Louisiana.SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 20:00, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
His service included a time as a post adjutant at Mazafil from April 26 through May 1848.. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 20:02, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
Hindman's regiment returned to Mississippi later in 1848, where they received a welcoming barbeque in early August.SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 20:04, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
Stopping at Move to Arkansas to allow you time to repair any damage I've inflicted. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 20:53, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
Hog Farm, I've lost track of where we are here; best I can tell, at one point I wasn't happy with the prose, and wanted fresh eyes. Did that happen yet? Or can you think of someone we might pester? Or shall I keep plugging away, with the idea that I would be the third Satis ? Whatever you think best, ... SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 21:19, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
G'day, here are my thoughts as I go:
Down to "Opposing the Know-Nothings". More to come. Peacemaker67 ( click to talk to me) 10:34, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
Frankly, I'm pretty happy with this now. Peacemaker67 ( click to talk to me) 07:46, 27 April 2022 (UTC)