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I'm about to make a couple of changes to this article. For a start, the present tone, and particularly the repeated usage of "Bishop Tom", is far too chummy. It sounds suspiciously like it's been written by a C of E apparatchik. Secondly, I'm adding a reference to the incident on December 5th 2006. Bedesboy 15:37, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks to the anon contributor for this. I've edited some typos. I've also read that he's a disciplinarian, though I can't recall where - we could really use a source for that one. Plus I removed "The Bishop's justifications to Mr Humphreys were not entirely convincing and some people thought that they came across as self-serving and not a little sanctimonious" - unless we can get a concrete record of named individuals in published media calling his explanation these things we can't really include that sentence. I heard the interview too and I thought it was self-serving and sanctimonious - but that's just my POV. Bedesboy 20:48, 19 December 2006 (UTC).
I have removed what are obviously not neutral statements. Phrases such as ...in a somewhat tortuous explanation... do not adhere to Wikipedia's NPOV rule. Also we need to avoid weasel phrases such as "he is known in the church as..."; It needs either a citation or removing completely. Finally, the use of irony does not set the correct tone for appears to be such a "controversial" subject. Please see Wikipedia:Guidelines for controversial articles for more information. -- Jp-hickson 14:04, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
I've just come across this article for the first time and it does strike me as being very unbalanced. While the drunkeness is important to mention, I think it's been given far too much prominence. Little else is said about his work as Bishop of Southwark; but plenty about what happened when he was drunk! Cover it by all means but let's get it into perspective. Can we do some tidying up and trimming back here please? Contaldo80 ( talk) 12:54, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved to Tom Butler (bishop). Favonian ( talk) 22:17, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Thomas Butler (bishop) → Tom Butler (bishop) – It's perfectly obvious the man's common name is Tom Butler. D B D 22:25, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
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I'm about to make a couple of changes to this article. For a start, the present tone, and particularly the repeated usage of "Bishop Tom", is far too chummy. It sounds suspiciously like it's been written by a C of E apparatchik. Secondly, I'm adding a reference to the incident on December 5th 2006. Bedesboy 15:37, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks to the anon contributor for this. I've edited some typos. I've also read that he's a disciplinarian, though I can't recall where - we could really use a source for that one. Plus I removed "The Bishop's justifications to Mr Humphreys were not entirely convincing and some people thought that they came across as self-serving and not a little sanctimonious" - unless we can get a concrete record of named individuals in published media calling his explanation these things we can't really include that sentence. I heard the interview too and I thought it was self-serving and sanctimonious - but that's just my POV. Bedesboy 20:48, 19 December 2006 (UTC).
I have removed what are obviously not neutral statements. Phrases such as ...in a somewhat tortuous explanation... do not adhere to Wikipedia's NPOV rule. Also we need to avoid weasel phrases such as "he is known in the church as..."; It needs either a citation or removing completely. Finally, the use of irony does not set the correct tone for appears to be such a "controversial" subject. Please see Wikipedia:Guidelines for controversial articles for more information. -- Jp-hickson 14:04, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
I've just come across this article for the first time and it does strike me as being very unbalanced. While the drunkeness is important to mention, I think it's been given far too much prominence. Little else is said about his work as Bishop of Southwark; but plenty about what happened when he was drunk! Cover it by all means but let's get it into perspective. Can we do some tidying up and trimming back here please? Contaldo80 ( talk) 12:54, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved to Tom Butler (bishop). Favonian ( talk) 22:17, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Thomas Butler (bishop) → Tom Butler (bishop) – It's perfectly obvious the man's common name is Tom Butler. D B D 22:25, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
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