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(the Princes in the Tower) ... presumed murdered by King Richard III ... He was, however, in no way implicated in the murder of the two young princes...' One or the other, and the Scottish 'Not proven' applies to the various proposed initiators of the event 'if murder did in fact occur' (Richard III, the Duke of Buckingham, and Henry Tudor being the main candidates). Jackiespeel ( talk) 13:12, 12 May 2014 (UTC) reply

All three (and various others) had (at different times) means, motive and opportunity - and there are other scenarios. A request for rephrasing rather than bringing the arguments to this talk page. Jackiespeel ( talk) 13:18, 12 May 2014 (UTC) reply