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The Woody Guthrie page lists original lyrics quite different from original lyrics mentioned on this page.
Added new section titled "Original 1940 lyrics" Rochkind ( talk) 16:38, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
There are a couple of concerns about my recent edits here: First, I added links to Redwood for "Redwood forest", Long Island for "New York Island", and Rocky Mountains for "Canadian mountain" in the Guthrie lyrics, but I'm not sure if those are the most appropriate articles to link.
With regard to Staten Island, which if you look at the original paper version he penned (found this on the internet via a google search. I have posted it to my FB page, as Wikipedia will not let me post the original link, which is from darrylholter.files.wordpress.com. You may see the image I copied from Darrylholter. This is his image and I do not own any copyright. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10214785021951795&set=a.1190799722808&type=3&theater ), it was Staten Island, as originally written. When he came to New York City, he stayed with a couple, don't remember who, and they gave him free food and shelter. They lived in Staten Island. This information was obtained from an NPR show about Woody Guthrie. As I recall, he stayed with this couple, who were his well known (as entertainers I believe) friends, staying a two weeks or so before he moved on. Epotereiko ( talk) 01:10, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
Secondly, I don't know the origin of the Canadian lyrics -- hopefully my excerpt isn't a copyright violation. Silly Dan 00:54, 2004 Nov 15 (UTC)
Canadian lyrics by The Travellors .in 1955. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:8D80:404:4A0:19D:A080:3B49:A965 ( talk) 20:45, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
According to the best available information, the song, as written by Woody did include the "no tresspassing" and "relief office lyrics". Both Arlo Guthrie and the Woody Guthrie Foundation list this version on their official websites. I removed some of the previous author's comments about alleged original publishing (listed as both as 1940 and 1945) as I can find no references to support this. I have been told that these last two verses were (and still are) often struck from publishings of the the song on objection by an editor offended by Woody's political sentiments. However, I have yet to find any solid documentation of these rumors so I will not add them to the article unless I can find a reference or two.-- DrFunkenstien 04:52, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
couldn't the jib jab lyrics go on thier own page? woody guthrie is probably spinning in his grave.
I doubt he is spinning - chuckling if anything. It's folk music and changing the words as needed is part of the process. But still I agree - they need their own page, though at the moment they are of equal importance 20 years from now they will be less significant while woody will endure.
I have the Irish version of the song on tape - it's fun to listen to :) PMA 10:26, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Can anyone tell me how this is a "patriotic" song? besides the fact that it's been misused and abused by American patriots?
The "patriotic song" banner should definitely be removed. The song was written as a response to "God Bless America" and has nothing to do with "patriotism." As a lifelong socialist, Woody Guthrie would not have considered himself a "patriot" but a man looking out for the people, regardless of which nation they inhabited. Akulaalfa 06:29, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
Is there any reason to mention this JibJab parody twice in the article? "Modern usage" should be sufficient, the "there is also" part in the parody section is not needed. Maybe move it to parody, but the upper part is clearly better written. Ulkomaalainen 15:28, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Hello, Is "This land is your land" copyrighted & if so who owns the copyright? Also do you know if it is licenced under a GDFL compatible licence? The reason I ask is because we have it on wikisource & it has been proposed for deletion as a [ Land is Your Land copyright violation.] AllanHainey 12:36, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
The Guthrie song is not a parody so that reference above is not relevant. As with all vocal music, there are two aspects to the question of copyright - the music and the lyrics. The music is a variation of a folk tune, and thus resides in the public domain. The lyrics, on the other hand, were definitely written by Guthrie. Notwithstanding he was a socialist who may not have believed in such things, the lyrics would have come under protection of the Copyright Act, 1976, whose effects were retroactive to 1900 - except works for which copyright protection had already expired. However, by the time the Act was passed in 1976, the song had become so upbiquitous, in both domestic and international versions (Canadian, British, Irish, Scottish, Australian, etc.), that it might have become too commonly known and used to qualify for copyright protection. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:645:C300:C1C:61BB:A9D3:225:727 ( talk) 04:02, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
Along FDR's "Nation of immigrants", I believe that this song is not restrictive. On PBS "American Experience" and "Sesame Street", Pete Seeger singing along with children and Peter, Paul and Mary with chorists, it's a welcome song of being together.
Takima 12:01, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
What is the real story of Tis Land is your land?
According to the 2005 boxed set, "This Machine Kills Fascists", this is a traditional song and was arranged by Woody Guthrie (i.e. not actually written by him). Does anyone know if this is accurate, and should the page be updated to reflect this? Adam McMaster 09:02, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Interestingly, I have a record containing a cover of "This Land Is Your Land" from 1963, "Trini Lopez At PJ's." It lists the song's authors as "Boone-Gold" and the publishing is "Chappell & Co., Inc. ASCAP. Anybody know who these mysterious Boone & Gold people are, who claim to have written the song? What's the story there? - Nick McGaw, 17 June 2007
In this article, someone wrote: "In modern times, the first verse is often sung as:" and then proceeds to list the lyrics to the Canadian version of the song, not a modernized American version, which they seem to think it is. I'm an American, but when I was in elementary school in the mid 1980s, I remember our music teacher telling us that there was a Canadian version of the song, and those are the lyrics. The places mentioned in the verse obviously refer to Canada, not the United States. 66.251.84.28 17:21, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Woody Guthrie did not intend this to be a patriotic song. It is a protest song. This should be taken out. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.195.9.71 ( talk) 19:59, 18 March 2007 (UTC).
No he wouldn't, why else would he write: "This song is Copyrighted in U.S., under Seal of Copyright # 154085, for a period of 28 years, and anybody caught singin it without our permission, will be mighty good friends of ourn, cause we don't give a dern. Publish it. Write it. Sing it. Swing to it. Yodel it. We wrote it, that's all we wanted to do." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.68.155.56 ( talk) 11:01, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
A popular parody among schoolchildren is
This land is my land
This land ain't your land
I got a shotgun
And you don't got one
I'll blow your head
If you don't go away
This land was made just for me
I heard Pete Seeger sing this verse at a children's concert at my elementarty school in Brooklyn NY in the mid 1960s. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.228.240.57 ( talk • contribs) 18:40, 24 May 2007
When I hear the song I always think of the Native Americans the land was stolen from. Does no else find it an embarrassing song? I can imagine Nazi children singing it to each other in Poland after it was cleared of Slavs. There is something latently unpleasant about the song that is brought out in the other versions. Littlest Plum 23:26, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Far from making a "very interesting point", MQDuck, LittlestPlum merely expressed his very personal and subjective (and uncommon arguably for a good reason) POV of the song's lyrics, and more importantly, expressed it in an inappropriate venue. It maybe be some 5 years on now, but since no one else ever bothered to point it out, I figured I'd go ahead and mention this fact...if at least as a reminder to any future posters intending to spew their personal ideologies here, in a discussion page reserved for matters of article editing. Plus, being as LittlestP appears to be Australian, I doubt if he ever has any reason to be "always thinking about "Native Americans". Give me a break. The questionable authenticity of his motives is a larger reason why I feel the post needs to be called out. 66.233.214.191 ( talk) 22:38, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Actually, I came to this page precisely to weigh the point brought up by Littlest Plum and understand this song more deeply. I have always felt that same bother, (and I am also not natively from the USA,) and I wanted to illuminate it and work on it. The point brought forth by LP is only to further the study of this song, and there is nothing wrong in sharing and exploring it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Queenred ( talk • contribs) 21:13, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
Many songbooks include the freedom highway verse, and this verse was sung in many of the later covers. Arlo claims Woody taught it to him. In fact, this is an original Woody Guthrie verse as it appears in one of his many self published song books. The song (as "This Land") appears in the April 1945 songbook "Book One: Ten Songs." Here are the lyrics including the freedom highway verse.
CHORUS: THIS LAND IS YOUR LAND THIS LAND IS MY LAND.
FROM THE REDWOOD FOREST TO THE NEW YORK ISLAND
THE CANADIAN MOUNTAIN TO THE GULF STREAM WATERS
THIS LAND IS MADE FOR YOU AND ME.
AS I GO WALKING THIS RIBBON OF HIGHWAY
I SEE ABOVE ME THIS ENDLESS SKYWAY
AND ALL AROUND ME THE WIND KEEPS SAYING:
THIS LAND IS MADE FOR YOU AND ME.
I ROAM AND I RAMBLE AND I FOLLOW MY FOOTSTEPS
TILL I COME TO THE SANDS OF HER MINERAL DESERT
THE MIST IS LIFTING AND THE VOICE IS SAYING:
THIS LAND IS MADE FOR YOU AND ME.
WHERE THE WIND IS BLOWING I GO A STROLLING
THE WHEAT FIELD WAVING AND THE DUST A ROLLING
THE FOG IS LIFTING AND THE WIND IS SAYING
THIS LAND IS MADE FOR YOU AND ME.
NOBODY LIVING CAN EVER STOP ME
AS I GO WALKING MY FREEDOM HIGHWAY
NOBODY LIVING CAN MAKE ME TURN BACK
THIS LAND IS MADE FOR YOU AND ME.
Keep in mind that Woody probably never sang the same song the same way twice anyway.
-- Parsa ( talk) 16:00, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
I changed this verbiage at the top to "one source erroneously claims." I thought the previous rendering, "However, some sources claim" contradicted the sentence above. But what I really should have done, and didn't do, was to go and find the sheet music and compare it (or find recordings of both Carter Family songs, and determine the truth myself by ear.
I guess I'm saying that I took a guess. I'm changing it back. Alan Canon ( talk) 20:24, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
I have made a more conservative edit, revising "some sources claim" to "one source claims." It is an improvement to the article, because it is more verifiably accurate. It also "takes the curse off" the seeming contradiction of the paragraph's lead sentence. I think the average reader's experience of reading will be improved.
Wow, I just had a discussion with myself on a Wikipedia Talk page. Do I need to get a life, or what? Alan Canon ( talk) 20:28, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
A section of this article is called "Confirmation of two other verses" (which I just changed from "other two"—I imagine it's short for "the other two", but "two other" seems a lot more natural). However, that section now deals with three or four verses: two versions of "trespassing", "freedom highway", and "relief office". If the section confirms that Guthrie wrote all of them, the number should probably be changed. Also, it says, "A 1945 pamphlet which omitted the last two verses has caused some question as to whether the original song did in fact contain the full text. The original manuscript confirms both of these verses." But it's not clear which are "the last two verses". The last two mentioned in this section? — JerryFriedman (Talk) 06:04, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
The number of other national/racial/ethnic altneratives is getting awfully long; somebody adds a new one every couple of weeks. (It's pretty easy to make your own version, I guess.) It's in danger of turning into a miscellany list, if it hasn't done so already.
I think we could kill them all and just write a paragraph or two saying that many variations have been written using other geographic sites, expressing solidarity for countries, etc. Does anybody else agree? Disagree? (I am going to kill the Waterboys version, since we have a couple other Irish ones already) - DavidWBrooks 22:13, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Is there any info on his financial life? Did he give concerts? Work as a singer through a corporation? Record & sell his songs? Did he live & die poor? Stars4change ( talk) 05:40, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Where are the lyrics for the "Indian" version from? I grew up in India and I have never heard this version. If no can come up with a citation I suggest deleting this part. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cdeuskar ( talk • contribs) 05:41, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
This Land is your Land, This Land is my Land,
From the Himalayas down to Cape Comorin.
From Bombay city to old Calcutta,
This Land is made for you and me.
A common variation on this when I was about 10 years old, my school mates would sing the following: this land is my land, it isn't your land From California to the New York Island From the Redwood Forest to the Gulf Stream waters This land was made for only me.
and so on with verses about various amounts of violence to be used in typical childlike fashion. The other variations on this song listed on this page I am less familiar with. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.203.157.85 ( talk) 04:21, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
I read the article but I didn't see any mention of George McGovern quoting this song when he accepted the Democratic nomination for president in 1972. Should this be added somewhere?
I've added Category:Canadian patriotic songs as this is a highly notable, and still popular, patriotic tune in Canada, noting in my edit comment there are more Canadian-version verses; I'll see if I can find them. I note the objections above in some section about its inclusion; but where else to put it? - " This Land Is Your Land (Canada)" or " This Land Is Your Land (Canadian version) seems unnecessary, especially given this is originally a Woody Guthrie song and not traditional; perhaps the Cdn patriotic song category could go on the redirect....It's so ingrained in Canadian education that it's sometimes assumed it's Canadian in origin (certainly the Travellers' lyrics are); Red River Valley is in the opposite direction, originally a tune of Metis exile, the expulsion/resettlement after the US annexation of the region from the 1818 Treaty giving most of it to the US....but that's another matter, just a side-comment. Maybe taht redlink I just made could be a redirect to the section on this article containing the Canadian version? Skookum1 ( talk) 21:39, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
I find the Ludlow copyright to be suspicious to begin with, because of its date (1956, just around when Woody Guthrie was hospitalized at Greystone Park Psychiatric Hospital for Huntington's disease). Did Ludlow, Inc., take advantage of this psychiatric malady to coerce Guthrie into giving them publication rights? If so, it might have been bad form to go about copyrighting the song in the first place, as it might not have been what Guthrie would've wanted before taking ill. — Rickyrab | Talk 03:54, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
In the article is this:
The reference is this: Spivey, Christine A. This Land is Your land, This Land is My Land: Folk Music, Communism, and the Red Scare as a Part of the American Landscape. The Student Historical Journal 1996–1997, Loyola University New Orleans, 1996.
The reference does not prove that Woodie Guthrie had "sympathetic views of communism". Therefore, that claim should be removed from the article. -- Timeshifter ( talk) 04:13, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
Vol. 16, No. 1/2, pp. 109-124, http://www.jstor.com/stable/43921756. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editeur24 ( talk • contribs) 19:24, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
I remember hearing a modified, fifty state version in the 1960s:
...
From Blue Hawaii to the New York island,
From Mount McKinley to the Gulf Stream waters ...
Doesn't quite work that way, does it? WHPratt ( talk) 19:34, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
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The Woody Guthrie page lists original lyrics quite different from original lyrics mentioned on this page.
Added new section titled "Original 1940 lyrics" Rochkind ( talk) 16:38, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
There are a couple of concerns about my recent edits here: First, I added links to Redwood for "Redwood forest", Long Island for "New York Island", and Rocky Mountains for "Canadian mountain" in the Guthrie lyrics, but I'm not sure if those are the most appropriate articles to link.
With regard to Staten Island, which if you look at the original paper version he penned (found this on the internet via a google search. I have posted it to my FB page, as Wikipedia will not let me post the original link, which is from darrylholter.files.wordpress.com. You may see the image I copied from Darrylholter. This is his image and I do not own any copyright. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10214785021951795&set=a.1190799722808&type=3&theater ), it was Staten Island, as originally written. When he came to New York City, he stayed with a couple, don't remember who, and they gave him free food and shelter. They lived in Staten Island. This information was obtained from an NPR show about Woody Guthrie. As I recall, he stayed with this couple, who were his well known (as entertainers I believe) friends, staying a two weeks or so before he moved on. Epotereiko ( talk) 01:10, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
Secondly, I don't know the origin of the Canadian lyrics -- hopefully my excerpt isn't a copyright violation. Silly Dan 00:54, 2004 Nov 15 (UTC)
Canadian lyrics by The Travellors .in 1955. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:8D80:404:4A0:19D:A080:3B49:A965 ( talk) 20:45, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
According to the best available information, the song, as written by Woody did include the "no tresspassing" and "relief office lyrics". Both Arlo Guthrie and the Woody Guthrie Foundation list this version on their official websites. I removed some of the previous author's comments about alleged original publishing (listed as both as 1940 and 1945) as I can find no references to support this. I have been told that these last two verses were (and still are) often struck from publishings of the the song on objection by an editor offended by Woody's political sentiments. However, I have yet to find any solid documentation of these rumors so I will not add them to the article unless I can find a reference or two.-- DrFunkenstien 04:52, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
couldn't the jib jab lyrics go on thier own page? woody guthrie is probably spinning in his grave.
I doubt he is spinning - chuckling if anything. It's folk music and changing the words as needed is part of the process. But still I agree - they need their own page, though at the moment they are of equal importance 20 years from now they will be less significant while woody will endure.
I have the Irish version of the song on tape - it's fun to listen to :) PMA 10:26, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Can anyone tell me how this is a "patriotic" song? besides the fact that it's been misused and abused by American patriots?
The "patriotic song" banner should definitely be removed. The song was written as a response to "God Bless America" and has nothing to do with "patriotism." As a lifelong socialist, Woody Guthrie would not have considered himself a "patriot" but a man looking out for the people, regardless of which nation they inhabited. Akulaalfa 06:29, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
Is there any reason to mention this JibJab parody twice in the article? "Modern usage" should be sufficient, the "there is also" part in the parody section is not needed. Maybe move it to parody, but the upper part is clearly better written. Ulkomaalainen 15:28, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Hello, Is "This land is your land" copyrighted & if so who owns the copyright? Also do you know if it is licenced under a GDFL compatible licence? The reason I ask is because we have it on wikisource & it has been proposed for deletion as a [ Land is Your Land copyright violation.] AllanHainey 12:36, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
The Guthrie song is not a parody so that reference above is not relevant. As with all vocal music, there are two aspects to the question of copyright - the music and the lyrics. The music is a variation of a folk tune, and thus resides in the public domain. The lyrics, on the other hand, were definitely written by Guthrie. Notwithstanding he was a socialist who may not have believed in such things, the lyrics would have come under protection of the Copyright Act, 1976, whose effects were retroactive to 1900 - except works for which copyright protection had already expired. However, by the time the Act was passed in 1976, the song had become so upbiquitous, in both domestic and international versions (Canadian, British, Irish, Scottish, Australian, etc.), that it might have become too commonly known and used to qualify for copyright protection. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:645:C300:C1C:61BB:A9D3:225:727 ( talk) 04:02, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
Along FDR's "Nation of immigrants", I believe that this song is not restrictive. On PBS "American Experience" and "Sesame Street", Pete Seeger singing along with children and Peter, Paul and Mary with chorists, it's a welcome song of being together.
Takima 12:01, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
What is the real story of Tis Land is your land?
According to the 2005 boxed set, "This Machine Kills Fascists", this is a traditional song and was arranged by Woody Guthrie (i.e. not actually written by him). Does anyone know if this is accurate, and should the page be updated to reflect this? Adam McMaster 09:02, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Interestingly, I have a record containing a cover of "This Land Is Your Land" from 1963, "Trini Lopez At PJ's." It lists the song's authors as "Boone-Gold" and the publishing is "Chappell & Co., Inc. ASCAP. Anybody know who these mysterious Boone & Gold people are, who claim to have written the song? What's the story there? - Nick McGaw, 17 June 2007
In this article, someone wrote: "In modern times, the first verse is often sung as:" and then proceeds to list the lyrics to the Canadian version of the song, not a modernized American version, which they seem to think it is. I'm an American, but when I was in elementary school in the mid 1980s, I remember our music teacher telling us that there was a Canadian version of the song, and those are the lyrics. The places mentioned in the verse obviously refer to Canada, not the United States. 66.251.84.28 17:21, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Woody Guthrie did not intend this to be a patriotic song. It is a protest song. This should be taken out. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.195.9.71 ( talk) 19:59, 18 March 2007 (UTC).
No he wouldn't, why else would he write: "This song is Copyrighted in U.S., under Seal of Copyright # 154085, for a period of 28 years, and anybody caught singin it without our permission, will be mighty good friends of ourn, cause we don't give a dern. Publish it. Write it. Sing it. Swing to it. Yodel it. We wrote it, that's all we wanted to do." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.68.155.56 ( talk) 11:01, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
A popular parody among schoolchildren is
This land is my land
This land ain't your land
I got a shotgun
And you don't got one
I'll blow your head
If you don't go away
This land was made just for me
I heard Pete Seeger sing this verse at a children's concert at my elementarty school in Brooklyn NY in the mid 1960s. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.228.240.57 ( talk • contribs) 18:40, 24 May 2007
When I hear the song I always think of the Native Americans the land was stolen from. Does no else find it an embarrassing song? I can imagine Nazi children singing it to each other in Poland after it was cleared of Slavs. There is something latently unpleasant about the song that is brought out in the other versions. Littlest Plum 23:26, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Far from making a "very interesting point", MQDuck, LittlestPlum merely expressed his very personal and subjective (and uncommon arguably for a good reason) POV of the song's lyrics, and more importantly, expressed it in an inappropriate venue. It maybe be some 5 years on now, but since no one else ever bothered to point it out, I figured I'd go ahead and mention this fact...if at least as a reminder to any future posters intending to spew their personal ideologies here, in a discussion page reserved for matters of article editing. Plus, being as LittlestP appears to be Australian, I doubt if he ever has any reason to be "always thinking about "Native Americans". Give me a break. The questionable authenticity of his motives is a larger reason why I feel the post needs to be called out. 66.233.214.191 ( talk) 22:38, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Actually, I came to this page precisely to weigh the point brought up by Littlest Plum and understand this song more deeply. I have always felt that same bother, (and I am also not natively from the USA,) and I wanted to illuminate it and work on it. The point brought forth by LP is only to further the study of this song, and there is nothing wrong in sharing and exploring it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Queenred ( talk • contribs) 21:13, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
Many songbooks include the freedom highway verse, and this verse was sung in many of the later covers. Arlo claims Woody taught it to him. In fact, this is an original Woody Guthrie verse as it appears in one of his many self published song books. The song (as "This Land") appears in the April 1945 songbook "Book One: Ten Songs." Here are the lyrics including the freedom highway verse.
CHORUS: THIS LAND IS YOUR LAND THIS LAND IS MY LAND.
FROM THE REDWOOD FOREST TO THE NEW YORK ISLAND
THE CANADIAN MOUNTAIN TO THE GULF STREAM WATERS
THIS LAND IS MADE FOR YOU AND ME.
AS I GO WALKING THIS RIBBON OF HIGHWAY
I SEE ABOVE ME THIS ENDLESS SKYWAY
AND ALL AROUND ME THE WIND KEEPS SAYING:
THIS LAND IS MADE FOR YOU AND ME.
I ROAM AND I RAMBLE AND I FOLLOW MY FOOTSTEPS
TILL I COME TO THE SANDS OF HER MINERAL DESERT
THE MIST IS LIFTING AND THE VOICE IS SAYING:
THIS LAND IS MADE FOR YOU AND ME.
WHERE THE WIND IS BLOWING I GO A STROLLING
THE WHEAT FIELD WAVING AND THE DUST A ROLLING
THE FOG IS LIFTING AND THE WIND IS SAYING
THIS LAND IS MADE FOR YOU AND ME.
NOBODY LIVING CAN EVER STOP ME
AS I GO WALKING MY FREEDOM HIGHWAY
NOBODY LIVING CAN MAKE ME TURN BACK
THIS LAND IS MADE FOR YOU AND ME.
Keep in mind that Woody probably never sang the same song the same way twice anyway.
-- Parsa ( talk) 16:00, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
I changed this verbiage at the top to "one source erroneously claims." I thought the previous rendering, "However, some sources claim" contradicted the sentence above. But what I really should have done, and didn't do, was to go and find the sheet music and compare it (or find recordings of both Carter Family songs, and determine the truth myself by ear.
I guess I'm saying that I took a guess. I'm changing it back. Alan Canon ( talk) 20:24, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
I have made a more conservative edit, revising "some sources claim" to "one source claims." It is an improvement to the article, because it is more verifiably accurate. It also "takes the curse off" the seeming contradiction of the paragraph's lead sentence. I think the average reader's experience of reading will be improved.
Wow, I just had a discussion with myself on a Wikipedia Talk page. Do I need to get a life, or what? Alan Canon ( talk) 20:28, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
A section of this article is called "Confirmation of two other verses" (which I just changed from "other two"—I imagine it's short for "the other two", but "two other" seems a lot more natural). However, that section now deals with three or four verses: two versions of "trespassing", "freedom highway", and "relief office". If the section confirms that Guthrie wrote all of them, the number should probably be changed. Also, it says, "A 1945 pamphlet which omitted the last two verses has caused some question as to whether the original song did in fact contain the full text. The original manuscript confirms both of these verses." But it's not clear which are "the last two verses". The last two mentioned in this section? — JerryFriedman (Talk) 06:04, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
The number of other national/racial/ethnic altneratives is getting awfully long; somebody adds a new one every couple of weeks. (It's pretty easy to make your own version, I guess.) It's in danger of turning into a miscellany list, if it hasn't done so already.
I think we could kill them all and just write a paragraph or two saying that many variations have been written using other geographic sites, expressing solidarity for countries, etc. Does anybody else agree? Disagree? (I am going to kill the Waterboys version, since we have a couple other Irish ones already) - DavidWBrooks 22:13, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Is there any info on his financial life? Did he give concerts? Work as a singer through a corporation? Record & sell his songs? Did he live & die poor? Stars4change ( talk) 05:40, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Where are the lyrics for the "Indian" version from? I grew up in India and I have never heard this version. If no can come up with a citation I suggest deleting this part. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cdeuskar ( talk • contribs) 05:41, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
This Land is your Land, This Land is my Land,
From the Himalayas down to Cape Comorin.
From Bombay city to old Calcutta,
This Land is made for you and me.
A common variation on this when I was about 10 years old, my school mates would sing the following: this land is my land, it isn't your land From California to the New York Island From the Redwood Forest to the Gulf Stream waters This land was made for only me.
and so on with verses about various amounts of violence to be used in typical childlike fashion. The other variations on this song listed on this page I am less familiar with. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.203.157.85 ( talk) 04:21, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
I read the article but I didn't see any mention of George McGovern quoting this song when he accepted the Democratic nomination for president in 1972. Should this be added somewhere?
I've added Category:Canadian patriotic songs as this is a highly notable, and still popular, patriotic tune in Canada, noting in my edit comment there are more Canadian-version verses; I'll see if I can find them. I note the objections above in some section about its inclusion; but where else to put it? - " This Land Is Your Land (Canada)" or " This Land Is Your Land (Canadian version) seems unnecessary, especially given this is originally a Woody Guthrie song and not traditional; perhaps the Cdn patriotic song category could go on the redirect....It's so ingrained in Canadian education that it's sometimes assumed it's Canadian in origin (certainly the Travellers' lyrics are); Red River Valley is in the opposite direction, originally a tune of Metis exile, the expulsion/resettlement after the US annexation of the region from the 1818 Treaty giving most of it to the US....but that's another matter, just a side-comment. Maybe taht redlink I just made could be a redirect to the section on this article containing the Canadian version? Skookum1 ( talk) 21:39, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
I find the Ludlow copyright to be suspicious to begin with, because of its date (1956, just around when Woody Guthrie was hospitalized at Greystone Park Psychiatric Hospital for Huntington's disease). Did Ludlow, Inc., take advantage of this psychiatric malady to coerce Guthrie into giving them publication rights? If so, it might have been bad form to go about copyrighting the song in the first place, as it might not have been what Guthrie would've wanted before taking ill. — Rickyrab | Talk 03:54, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
In the article is this:
The reference is this: Spivey, Christine A. This Land is Your land, This Land is My Land: Folk Music, Communism, and the Red Scare as a Part of the American Landscape. The Student Historical Journal 1996–1997, Loyola University New Orleans, 1996.
The reference does not prove that Woodie Guthrie had "sympathetic views of communism". Therefore, that claim should be removed from the article. -- Timeshifter ( talk) 04:13, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
Vol. 16, No. 1/2, pp. 109-124, http://www.jstor.com/stable/43921756. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editeur24 ( talk • contribs) 19:24, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
I remember hearing a modified, fifty state version in the 1960s:
...
From Blue Hawaii to the New York island,
From Mount McKinley to the Gulf Stream waters ...
Doesn't quite work that way, does it? WHPratt ( talk) 19:34, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
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