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I used speedy deletion because I used the layout of the band's A Beautiful Lie page to start this one.
The article states that all the songs on the new album are written and performed solely by 30 Seconds to Mars. While I do believe this will turn out true, how do we know right now that there will not be any guest performers on the album, or that there were no other writers involved? Shouldn't this be removed from the article until we know for sure? Ryziun ( talk) 15:18, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Their song This Is War is featured in a video promo for EA's Dragon Age: Origins http://dragonage.bioware.com/gallery/videos/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.253.236.228 ( talk) 22:36, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
Where's the proof that the songs like "Kings & Queens", and the others will be on the new album? Just wondering. Story V ( talk) 23:07, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Now confirmed on the official website —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.253.236.228 ( talk) 02:16, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
Where are the sources that say the release date for 23rd November for the US and the UK?-- Loverdrive ( talk) 16:57, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
I requested that this page be protected, and I was granted three days. The issues being that (a) several IPs and editors were copying and pasting this blog into the article which is considered a copyright violation and (b) several IPs and editors were continuing to mention that this image might be the cover art. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, and speculating about future events should be well sourced. A rumor from a blog-like website is not considered a reliable source. Fezmar9 ( talk) 20:17, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
The Spin rating is based on the rating of the user that are log in in the site and The Guardian is a community, so they violate the wikipedia criteria. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.47.183.29 ( talk) 12:59, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
There is currently a dispute and ongoing edit war concerning the addition of two (negative) reviews to the article. One is from The Guardian [1] and the other from Spin [2]. It is being alleged that because you can login and register for these sites, that you can actually edit and influence the nature of the review and the overall rating. Whilst this is partially true for Spin, the rating that is altered is not the rating that is displayed on the article. Reviews from these sites have been used on multiple other articles. It seems clear that the IP user is intent on removing them due to their negative nature. However, wikipedia strives for a neutral point of view, which means representing both negative and positive view points. There is no valid reason to remove these reviews, yet the IP seems unable to understand what is being explained to them. In essence, the debate is should these reviews be included in the article or not? Nouse4aname ( talk) 09:24, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Here there isn't any rating. The Spin rating is based on the rating of the user. Both unreliable.-- Loverdrive ( talk) 23:52, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
— Iknow23 ( talk) 03:56, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Note: I have replaced the formerly used article by The Guardian with another one by the publisher - the first appeared to refer to the leaked version (mentioned West's vocals), this other one is the 2/5 review and is completely and utterly reliable in every way - except probably not in the eyes of some editors. kiac. ( talk- contrib) 04:45, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Fezmar9, the person who conducted the 'test' provided
this link (see above) to a reply he left at the IP, "...I understand your confusion for the Spin review. Right next to the star rating is a note saying 'Log in to rate' or something along those lines..."
NOTE the word confusion. If there is 'confusion' the material is unclear.—
Iknow23 (
talk)
05:30, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
I agree with your comment. Removing a Guardian review is outright censorship. The official rating they give has nothing to do with user input on the web site.
I've suffered the same problem myself on other pages. With fans of the subject in question doing their best to keep poor reviews off of the article —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cjmooney9 ( talk • contribs) 18:14, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
My god, this just never ends. With this edit I changed the Spin review source from citing the web to directly citing the physical print magazine, hoping it would put an end to this never-ending argument. However, a discussion took place here on my talk page shortly thereafter about the inclusion of both the magazine AND url within the citation. I can already tell that the discussion between myself and User:IKnow23 will go nowhere on my talk page, so I am moving the discussion here to involve the This Is War community to help reach a consensus. Fezmar9 ( talk) 18:46, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Question: the ref citation of ISSN 0886-3032. Is that directly from the actual print edition?
If it is only from the
Spin (magazine) wiki, see the TALK there.—
Iknow23 (
talk)
03:06, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
The article states the following in its lead: It is the first studio album by the band in four years, since A Beautiful Lie was released in 2005.
My question is how is this even worthy of mention? Four years is not an abnormally long period between album releases. I fail to see why it should even be mentioned in the lead. Enfestid ( talk) 20:15, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
There seems to be some edit warring over this Kanye West's and Brandon Flowers' involvement with This Is War. According to the sources, West provided vocals on "Hurricane", specifically the lyric "I need a heartbeat". [4] All of the original news posts of West's collaboration only recognized him as a vocalist. [5] After being told that West would appear on the album, and after not publicly announcing his absence, it would seem that people assumed the beats on "Hurricane" were programmed by West. The only source I could find supporting West providing beat programming was Wikipedia, and few blogs that likely got their information here. This collaboration had to be removed from the final version of the album due to legal reasons and label disputes. [6] The band also hopes to release this version of the song someday. [7] As for Brandon Flowers, I cannot find anything on his involvement since it was originally announced earlier this year. Does anyone have a physical copy of the album? Fezmar9 ( talk) 18:43, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
An editor repeatedly undertaking ignorant edits like this is not helping anyone. You are so dearly misinformed, as much as I've tried my best to help, you continue to ignore and you continue with the idiotic edits. Am i the only one seeing the complete and utter stupidity in this edit and others (obviously same editor)? A Copyright violation... what? Here is a brief excerpt from Wikipedia:Non-free content (yes, content which is NOT violating copyright): "Brief quotations of copyrighted text may be used to illustrate a point, establish context, or attribute a point of view or idea." The arrogance in this editor is blinding. kiac. ( talk- contrib) 13:15, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Melodic.net published a review on their website [8]. A very positive one. Add it.-- 79.46.176.26 ( talk) 17:05, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
L490 uses 2 very different sound concepts in it. At the start there is what sounds like Jem Finer's Longplayer and at the end there is a collection of what sounds like a Monks Hymn. What are these? Please answer. Eurovision 2009 and 2010 Sasha Son Sakis Rouvas 14:06, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
Don't delete positive reviews for negative ones.-- ItHysteria ( talk) 18:49, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
If you don't think the review listing as of this version doesn't accurately reflect the album's critical reception please explain why below, keeping in mind we strive for a neutral point of view. -- NeilN talk to me 19:54, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Upon downloading the new 30 Seconds to Mars 'Kings And Queens' single from iTunes, I noticed that on the album cover, there is a possible link between the words 'Mars' and 'War'.
Both words seem to be bolded in red on the white stripe, as opposed to in black - like the remainder of the album title and band name.
Mars, being the Roman deity concerning warfare, being linked to the 'War' in the title, is quite significant I believe. It may show the struggle that band has had in making the album, or perhaps is just a teaser of some sort for those who are more observant amongst us?
I believe this little quirk could easily be integrated into the 'Music style and themes' section, or even just above that, after this part: "The CD booklet, as well as the promotional and digital artwork features a roaring tiger. All retail albums include varied sleeves, separate from the booklet, featuring one of the 2,000 different covers." Now, in order for this to fit into the 'Music style and themes section', the section title may have to be changed so as to remove the ambiguity over whether the 'themes' refers to musical themes or general themes.
For reference and also your convenience, here is an embedded file of the album cover I am referring to:
Many thanks, and please be kind; this is my first contribution to Wikipedia
-- Patrick Rozendaal ( talk) 09:33, 1 February 2010 (UTC)Patrick Rozendaal
The album was certified gold by the bpi on April 1.-- 79.46.183.75 ( talk) 12:49, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
The New Jersey Devils used the song Vox Populi as part of their playoff introduction. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Artieb220 ( talk • contribs) 13:29, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
It was also used in a "Victoria's Secret" runway show in 2010. 94.15.207.226 ( talk) 20:54, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
What do we think about adding Space Rock to the infobox? My overall impression of the album was Space Rock. Not sure what constitutes a reliable source but here's a few links that refer to the album as such:
http://artisticalliance.org/aa/2010/04/30-seconds-to-mars-this-is-war-impression/
http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?albumid=42849
http://www.reviewbusters.net/game/review.aspx?id=2131
Jh39 ( talk) 01:00, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
The article currently has a section headed "Faces of Mars", and an accompanying image is captioned "Some covers of the Faces of Mars". Nowhere, however, is any explanation provided for the expression "Faces of Mars". Is this something official the band used? Where? Or is it just something we made up here? — JohnFromPinckney ( talk) 08:09, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
I just thought I'd point out that the reference for Emo in the infobox actually state that the band has moved out of the Emo genre with this album Jh39 ( talk) 19:39, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
PEAKED AT 39 IN 2010 < http://mexicancharts.com/showitem.asp?interpret=Thirty+Seconds+To+Mars&titel=This+Is+War&cat=a/> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.139.172.207 ( talk) 01:38, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
They're shooting a music video for Hurricane. Is it a single now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.253.236.228 ( talk) 18:23, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
It may not be a single, but we should add a description of the video anyway. 66.32.17.150 ( talk) 21:41, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
There's been a load of controversy over the Hurricane video (it being censored heavily for MTV to play it, and even then they wouldn't play the censored version) - surely that's notable enough for a mention? Amzi ( Talk To Me) 08:13, 16 December 2010 (UTC) It is the new single. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.55.179.92 ( talk) 14:20, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Someone turned off the disambiguation for "Hurricane", which I personally thought was a better move. But I come back today and it's back to redirecting to This Is War. Can we go back to having Hurricane have its own page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.32.64.83 ( talk) 13:29, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
According to an OTRS email, and checking [10], this was a fan-made cover and not an official one. I have removed it. Guy ( Help!) 21:35, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
The album was No. 47 in Germany source-- 79.216.174.128 ( talk) 15:47, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Due to the fact that the page is locked, I cannot make the most minor of changes, so I ask admins to do so. In the Hurricane controversy section, you have referred to Jared Leto's psuedonym as "Bartholomew Cubbin", when it is, in fact, "Bartholomew Cubbins". An "s" only needs to be added. There are references all over the internet, including an official band t-shirt with "Who the f#%k is Bartholomew Cubbins?" printed on it. Thanks. 94.15.207.226 ( talk) 20:52, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
"Kings And Queens" is available for download on the SingStore, the online store that you can purchase songs from for the SingStar series. 94.15.207.226 ( talk) 21:01, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
According to the " Hurricane" page, it says the next single is going to be " Night of the Hunter". Is this true? -- CDK ( talk) 19:26, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
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Platinum in the UK source-- 79.199.25.4 ( talk) 22:27, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
I think this album must be considered as hard rock and new prog. It have not the musical complexity of progressive rock (like yes, genesis and pink floyd). It have a hard rock and alt-rock sound with some elements of prog. The band is cited as a notable group of new prog, and this genre is cited in the band page, but it isn't in any album. -my english isn't very good, sorry- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.188.245.183 ( talk) 06:03, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
Well, five or six songs from the album have their own pages and every single one is decribed there as whether "new prog" or "progressive rock". If individual songs are labeled here as prog, then why the album isn't? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.6.175.249 ( talk) 21:42, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
The double platinum award in Belgium is sourced by Gulf News, which is a reliable and authoritative source. The certification was also listed here, but when the band began to use the name "Thirty Seconds to Mars" instead of "30 Seconds to Mars", it disappeared. In New Zealand, the album was certified when it left the chart, that's why it is not here (also From Yesterday, for example, charted in 2007 but was certified only in 2011). Label's press releases such as this are reliable sources, especially when it comes of album certifications or sales of their own artists. Also, on the web there are pictures of the band receiving those awards.-- Earthh ( talk) 12:28, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
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I used speedy deletion because I used the layout of the band's A Beautiful Lie page to start this one.
The article states that all the songs on the new album are written and performed solely by 30 Seconds to Mars. While I do believe this will turn out true, how do we know right now that there will not be any guest performers on the album, or that there were no other writers involved? Shouldn't this be removed from the article until we know for sure? Ryziun ( talk) 15:18, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Their song This Is War is featured in a video promo for EA's Dragon Age: Origins http://dragonage.bioware.com/gallery/videos/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.253.236.228 ( talk) 22:36, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
Where's the proof that the songs like "Kings & Queens", and the others will be on the new album? Just wondering. Story V ( talk) 23:07, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Now confirmed on the official website —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.253.236.228 ( talk) 02:16, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
Where are the sources that say the release date for 23rd November for the US and the UK?-- Loverdrive ( talk) 16:57, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
I requested that this page be protected, and I was granted three days. The issues being that (a) several IPs and editors were copying and pasting this blog into the article which is considered a copyright violation and (b) several IPs and editors were continuing to mention that this image might be the cover art. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, and speculating about future events should be well sourced. A rumor from a blog-like website is not considered a reliable source. Fezmar9 ( talk) 20:17, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
The Spin rating is based on the rating of the user that are log in in the site and The Guardian is a community, so they violate the wikipedia criteria. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.47.183.29 ( talk) 12:59, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
There is currently a dispute and ongoing edit war concerning the addition of two (negative) reviews to the article. One is from The Guardian [1] and the other from Spin [2]. It is being alleged that because you can login and register for these sites, that you can actually edit and influence the nature of the review and the overall rating. Whilst this is partially true for Spin, the rating that is altered is not the rating that is displayed on the article. Reviews from these sites have been used on multiple other articles. It seems clear that the IP user is intent on removing them due to their negative nature. However, wikipedia strives for a neutral point of view, which means representing both negative and positive view points. There is no valid reason to remove these reviews, yet the IP seems unable to understand what is being explained to them. In essence, the debate is should these reviews be included in the article or not? Nouse4aname ( talk) 09:24, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Here there isn't any rating. The Spin rating is based on the rating of the user. Both unreliable.-- Loverdrive ( talk) 23:52, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
— Iknow23 ( talk) 03:56, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Note: I have replaced the formerly used article by The Guardian with another one by the publisher - the first appeared to refer to the leaked version (mentioned West's vocals), this other one is the 2/5 review and is completely and utterly reliable in every way - except probably not in the eyes of some editors. kiac. ( talk- contrib) 04:45, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Fezmar9, the person who conducted the 'test' provided
this link (see above) to a reply he left at the IP, "...I understand your confusion for the Spin review. Right next to the star rating is a note saying 'Log in to rate' or something along those lines..."
NOTE the word confusion. If there is 'confusion' the material is unclear.—
Iknow23 (
talk)
05:30, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
I agree with your comment. Removing a Guardian review is outright censorship. The official rating they give has nothing to do with user input on the web site.
I've suffered the same problem myself on other pages. With fans of the subject in question doing their best to keep poor reviews off of the article —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cjmooney9 ( talk • contribs) 18:14, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
My god, this just never ends. With this edit I changed the Spin review source from citing the web to directly citing the physical print magazine, hoping it would put an end to this never-ending argument. However, a discussion took place here on my talk page shortly thereafter about the inclusion of both the magazine AND url within the citation. I can already tell that the discussion between myself and User:IKnow23 will go nowhere on my talk page, so I am moving the discussion here to involve the This Is War community to help reach a consensus. Fezmar9 ( talk) 18:46, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Question: the ref citation of ISSN 0886-3032. Is that directly from the actual print edition?
If it is only from the
Spin (magazine) wiki, see the TALK there.—
Iknow23 (
talk)
03:06, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
The article states the following in its lead: It is the first studio album by the band in four years, since A Beautiful Lie was released in 2005.
My question is how is this even worthy of mention? Four years is not an abnormally long period between album releases. I fail to see why it should even be mentioned in the lead. Enfestid ( talk) 20:15, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
There seems to be some edit warring over this Kanye West's and Brandon Flowers' involvement with This Is War. According to the sources, West provided vocals on "Hurricane", specifically the lyric "I need a heartbeat". [4] All of the original news posts of West's collaboration only recognized him as a vocalist. [5] After being told that West would appear on the album, and after not publicly announcing his absence, it would seem that people assumed the beats on "Hurricane" were programmed by West. The only source I could find supporting West providing beat programming was Wikipedia, and few blogs that likely got their information here. This collaboration had to be removed from the final version of the album due to legal reasons and label disputes. [6] The band also hopes to release this version of the song someday. [7] As for Brandon Flowers, I cannot find anything on his involvement since it was originally announced earlier this year. Does anyone have a physical copy of the album? Fezmar9 ( talk) 18:43, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
An editor repeatedly undertaking ignorant edits like this is not helping anyone. You are so dearly misinformed, as much as I've tried my best to help, you continue to ignore and you continue with the idiotic edits. Am i the only one seeing the complete and utter stupidity in this edit and others (obviously same editor)? A Copyright violation... what? Here is a brief excerpt from Wikipedia:Non-free content (yes, content which is NOT violating copyright): "Brief quotations of copyrighted text may be used to illustrate a point, establish context, or attribute a point of view or idea." The arrogance in this editor is blinding. kiac. ( talk- contrib) 13:15, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Melodic.net published a review on their website [8]. A very positive one. Add it.-- 79.46.176.26 ( talk) 17:05, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
L490 uses 2 very different sound concepts in it. At the start there is what sounds like Jem Finer's Longplayer and at the end there is a collection of what sounds like a Monks Hymn. What are these? Please answer. Eurovision 2009 and 2010 Sasha Son Sakis Rouvas 14:06, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
Don't delete positive reviews for negative ones.-- ItHysteria ( talk) 18:49, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
If you don't think the review listing as of this version doesn't accurately reflect the album's critical reception please explain why below, keeping in mind we strive for a neutral point of view. -- NeilN talk to me 19:54, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Upon downloading the new 30 Seconds to Mars 'Kings And Queens' single from iTunes, I noticed that on the album cover, there is a possible link between the words 'Mars' and 'War'.
Both words seem to be bolded in red on the white stripe, as opposed to in black - like the remainder of the album title and band name.
Mars, being the Roman deity concerning warfare, being linked to the 'War' in the title, is quite significant I believe. It may show the struggle that band has had in making the album, or perhaps is just a teaser of some sort for those who are more observant amongst us?
I believe this little quirk could easily be integrated into the 'Music style and themes' section, or even just above that, after this part: "The CD booklet, as well as the promotional and digital artwork features a roaring tiger. All retail albums include varied sleeves, separate from the booklet, featuring one of the 2,000 different covers." Now, in order for this to fit into the 'Music style and themes section', the section title may have to be changed so as to remove the ambiguity over whether the 'themes' refers to musical themes or general themes.
For reference and also your convenience, here is an embedded file of the album cover I am referring to:
Many thanks, and please be kind; this is my first contribution to Wikipedia
-- Patrick Rozendaal ( talk) 09:33, 1 February 2010 (UTC)Patrick Rozendaal
The album was certified gold by the bpi on April 1.-- 79.46.183.75 ( talk) 12:49, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
The New Jersey Devils used the song Vox Populi as part of their playoff introduction. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Artieb220 ( talk • contribs) 13:29, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
It was also used in a "Victoria's Secret" runway show in 2010. 94.15.207.226 ( talk) 20:54, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
What do we think about adding Space Rock to the infobox? My overall impression of the album was Space Rock. Not sure what constitutes a reliable source but here's a few links that refer to the album as such:
http://artisticalliance.org/aa/2010/04/30-seconds-to-mars-this-is-war-impression/
http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?albumid=42849
http://www.reviewbusters.net/game/review.aspx?id=2131
Jh39 ( talk) 01:00, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
The article currently has a section headed "Faces of Mars", and an accompanying image is captioned "Some covers of the Faces of Mars". Nowhere, however, is any explanation provided for the expression "Faces of Mars". Is this something official the band used? Where? Or is it just something we made up here? — JohnFromPinckney ( talk) 08:09, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
I just thought I'd point out that the reference for Emo in the infobox actually state that the band has moved out of the Emo genre with this album Jh39 ( talk) 19:39, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
PEAKED AT 39 IN 2010 < http://mexicancharts.com/showitem.asp?interpret=Thirty+Seconds+To+Mars&titel=This+Is+War&cat=a/> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.139.172.207 ( talk) 01:38, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
They're shooting a music video for Hurricane. Is it a single now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.253.236.228 ( talk) 18:23, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
It may not be a single, but we should add a description of the video anyway. 66.32.17.150 ( talk) 21:41, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
There's been a load of controversy over the Hurricane video (it being censored heavily for MTV to play it, and even then they wouldn't play the censored version) - surely that's notable enough for a mention? Amzi ( Talk To Me) 08:13, 16 December 2010 (UTC) It is the new single. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.55.179.92 ( talk) 14:20, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Someone turned off the disambiguation for "Hurricane", which I personally thought was a better move. But I come back today and it's back to redirecting to This Is War. Can we go back to having Hurricane have its own page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.32.64.83 ( talk) 13:29, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
According to an OTRS email, and checking [10], this was a fan-made cover and not an official one. I have removed it. Guy ( Help!) 21:35, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
The album was No. 47 in Germany source-- 79.216.174.128 ( talk) 15:47, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Due to the fact that the page is locked, I cannot make the most minor of changes, so I ask admins to do so. In the Hurricane controversy section, you have referred to Jared Leto's psuedonym as "Bartholomew Cubbin", when it is, in fact, "Bartholomew Cubbins". An "s" only needs to be added. There are references all over the internet, including an official band t-shirt with "Who the f#%k is Bartholomew Cubbins?" printed on it. Thanks. 94.15.207.226 ( talk) 20:52, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
"Kings And Queens" is available for download on the SingStore, the online store that you can purchase songs from for the SingStar series. 94.15.207.226 ( talk) 21:01, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
According to the " Hurricane" page, it says the next single is going to be " Night of the Hunter". Is this true? -- CDK ( talk) 19:26, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
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Platinum in the UK source-- 79.199.25.4 ( talk) 22:27, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
I think this album must be considered as hard rock and new prog. It have not the musical complexity of progressive rock (like yes, genesis and pink floyd). It have a hard rock and alt-rock sound with some elements of prog. The band is cited as a notable group of new prog, and this genre is cited in the band page, but it isn't in any album. -my english isn't very good, sorry- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.188.245.183 ( talk) 06:03, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
Well, five or six songs from the album have their own pages and every single one is decribed there as whether "new prog" or "progressive rock". If individual songs are labeled here as prog, then why the album isn't? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.6.175.249 ( talk) 21:42, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
The double platinum award in Belgium is sourced by Gulf News, which is a reliable and authoritative source. The certification was also listed here, but when the band began to use the name "Thirty Seconds to Mars" instead of "30 Seconds to Mars", it disappeared. In New Zealand, the album was certified when it left the chart, that's why it is not here (also From Yesterday, for example, charted in 2007 but was certified only in 2011). Label's press releases such as this are reliable sources, especially when it comes of album certifications or sales of their own artists. Also, on the web there are pictures of the band receiving those awards.-- Earthh ( talk) 12:28, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
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