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Is there a source for Carthaginian casualties? Not just for the siege of Carthage, but for the entirety of the Third Punic War? That would be a more suitable fit for this article than an unsourced number. 2601:85:C101:C9D0:B4AD:B3A5:3F74:41FD ( talk) 16:20, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
The article on Hasdrubal - "He was taken to Rome and displayed during Scipio's triumph, but later allowed to live in peace in Italy.[2]" - quoting Mommsen - whereas this article states his fate is/was unknown. 104.169.18.5 ( talk) 10:28, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
It's pretty obvious that Numidia participated in this war. I mean the whole war started because of Numidia's attacks and the battle of Oroscopa. During the first year of the war, Numidia participated through limited combat, but by mid 148 BC a large Numidian army was sent to participate in the Siege of Carthage, and to relieve the Roman army which was harassed by Himilco Phameas's raids, after which Gulussa fought along the Roman army. In fact, the peace process itself was started after Himilco Phameas contacted Gulussa at the Roman camp to deliver his messages to the Romans. [1] The direct participation of Numidia itself began after Scipio sent envoys into Numidia to ask for military assistance to counter Himilco's cavalry, although the first envoy had to return as Massinissa was dying. After the return of the first envoy, another was sent and were able to convince Gulussa to participate in the war by sending light cavarly commanded by himself. [2] [3] [4] In fact, the captain of Carthage, Hasdrubal (not Hasdrubal the Boetharch, but another one) who was a grandson of Massinissa was executed by the Carthaginians because of his kinship ties to Gulussa, who was besieging Carthage. Whatever748 ( talk) 22:22, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
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Can we please return commas to these 6 places?
Background
“Hostages were taken and Carthage was prohibited from waging war outside Africa—and could wage war in Africa only with Rome's express permission.” (compound sentence, add comma after “taken”)
“The campaign ended in disaster at the Battle of Oroscopa and the army surrendered; many Carthaginians were subsequently massacred by the Numidians.” (Run-on/contains 3 independent clauses. Add comma after “Oroscopa” and split sentence into 2 at semicolon)
Course of the War
149 BC
“Censorinus's had the primary role of protecting the beached Roman ships and Manilius's housed the Roman legions.” (compound sentence, add comma after “ships”)
147 BC
“They had built a new fleet and once the channel was complete, the Carthaginians sailed out, taking the Romans by surprise.” (compound sentence, add comma after “fleet”)
“Fleeing Carthaginians were pursued by Rome's mounted Numidian allies and few escaped.” (compound sentence, add comma after “allies”)
Aftermath
“The Senate despatched a ten-man commission and Scipio was ordered to carry out further demolitions.” (compound sentence, add comma after “commission”) Amthisguy ( talk) 16:54, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
This article is currently in the category "Genocides in Africa". Presumably, this characterization stems from this article which I've found from the List of genocides (where this war is listed). What should be done here? We can't have this category sitting around if its not sourced in the article—is there something more to include here? Aza24 (talk) 03:39, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
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Is there a source for Carthaginian casualties? Not just for the siege of Carthage, but for the entirety of the Third Punic War? That would be a more suitable fit for this article than an unsourced number. 2601:85:C101:C9D0:B4AD:B3A5:3F74:41FD ( talk) 16:20, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
The article on Hasdrubal - "He was taken to Rome and displayed during Scipio's triumph, but later allowed to live in peace in Italy.[2]" - quoting Mommsen - whereas this article states his fate is/was unknown. 104.169.18.5 ( talk) 10:28, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
It's pretty obvious that Numidia participated in this war. I mean the whole war started because of Numidia's attacks and the battle of Oroscopa. During the first year of the war, Numidia participated through limited combat, but by mid 148 BC a large Numidian army was sent to participate in the Siege of Carthage, and to relieve the Roman army which was harassed by Himilco Phameas's raids, after which Gulussa fought along the Roman army. In fact, the peace process itself was started after Himilco Phameas contacted Gulussa at the Roman camp to deliver his messages to the Romans. [1] The direct participation of Numidia itself began after Scipio sent envoys into Numidia to ask for military assistance to counter Himilco's cavalry, although the first envoy had to return as Massinissa was dying. After the return of the first envoy, another was sent and were able to convince Gulussa to participate in the war by sending light cavarly commanded by himself. [2] [3] [4] In fact, the captain of Carthage, Hasdrubal (not Hasdrubal the Boetharch, but another one) who was a grandson of Massinissa was executed by the Carthaginians because of his kinship ties to Gulussa, who was besieging Carthage. Whatever748 ( talk) 22:22, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
References
Can we please return commas to these 6 places?
Background
“Hostages were taken and Carthage was prohibited from waging war outside Africa—and could wage war in Africa only with Rome's express permission.” (compound sentence, add comma after “taken”)
“The campaign ended in disaster at the Battle of Oroscopa and the army surrendered; many Carthaginians were subsequently massacred by the Numidians.” (Run-on/contains 3 independent clauses. Add comma after “Oroscopa” and split sentence into 2 at semicolon)
Course of the War
149 BC
“Censorinus's had the primary role of protecting the beached Roman ships and Manilius's housed the Roman legions.” (compound sentence, add comma after “ships”)
147 BC
“They had built a new fleet and once the channel was complete, the Carthaginians sailed out, taking the Romans by surprise.” (compound sentence, add comma after “fleet”)
“Fleeing Carthaginians were pursued by Rome's mounted Numidian allies and few escaped.” (compound sentence, add comma after “allies”)
Aftermath
“The Senate despatched a ten-man commission and Scipio was ordered to carry out further demolitions.” (compound sentence, add comma after “commission”) Amthisguy ( talk) 16:54, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
This article is currently in the category "Genocides in Africa". Presumably, this characterization stems from this article which I've found from the List of genocides (where this war is listed). What should be done here? We can't have this category sitting around if its not sourced in the article—is there something more to include here? Aza24 (talk) 03:39, 1 August 2023 (UTC)