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This material is written in a rather non-encyclopedic, even inflammatory style, and is clearly not NPOV. This person certainly sounds worthy of more then the stub one-liner that was here before your contribution, but I think the content needs a lot of work. It's missing some basic facts, and full of opinions expressed as fact. Some examples:
Please read WP:NPOV, WP:VERIFY and WP:CITE, and try to fix the material. — johndburger 13:41, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
__________________________________________________________
Anchorage Daily News June 12, 1996
JUDGE JAILS OBERMEYER FOR 30 DAYS EX-SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER'S PROBATION REVOKED FOR COURTHOUSE ALTERCATIONS Liz Ruskin, Daily News Reporter
(Text of copyrighted news article removed - can be viewed in page history if required)
-via Tom Cod
Tom writes: If someone would presume to be my editor or censor, that person should at least have some familiarity with this issue and the community it emanates from. Uh, so only Alaskans can edit your material? That's not how Wikipedia works (or editing in general, for that matter). And censor is the kind of overwrought language that your subject seems to like to use. Your material has been "censored" by at least four different editors—I'd pay attention to that, as well as the warning at the top of this Talk page. Biographies (that's what this is) of living people have to be written very carefully, here and elsewhere.
But anyway, the newspaper article you've provided is a beginning—I've added it as a reference, and changed some of the material to match the facts as stated there. It's not hard to do things properly. — johndburger 12:59, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Not sure what you're talking about—your material was reverted (by multiple editors) due to it's style, lack of references, etc., not because it was "outrageous". Perhaps you're referring to my comment of "unbelievable" concerning failing the bar dozens of times? If you read that carefully, you'll see that I simply asked for a better, substantiated number. Not unreasonable, I think, for any Wikipedia article, but especially important for living persons' biographies. (Please read WP:BLP.) Wikipedia is global, it's largely irrelevant what "the reading public in Anchorage" is familiar with. — johndburger 21:40, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
Do local people know more about libel? If you won't read WP:BLP, at least read the warning at the top of this very page. If you disagree with the policy, then as a lawyer, it'd be great if you could refine it. 'Til then, I'll follow the rules. — johndburger 10:42, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
What Arichnad said. :) — johndburger 01:23, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
User User:Tobermeyer6, who is or claims to be Theresa Obermeyer, added some comments and requests to the body of the article, where they don't belong, so they were deleted, but they do belong here on the talk page so I'll repost it here. The complete diff is here. I omitted some material because it's intertwined with other material (see the diff for full details) but the bulk is contained here:
Herostratus ( talk) 03:01, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
11/9/13 Theresa Nangle Obermeyer, Ph.D. I have mailed documents about Mr. William J. Moran, Jr., Chair, Alaska Permanent Fund Board regarding http://www.apfboardconfirmatin.org/moran.html to Ms. Maggie Dennis, Senior Community Advocate, Wikimedia Foundation. She acknowledged receipt of the packet 11/6/13. I hope that she has forwarded the documents to those who will research what I mailed. I would appreciate that very much. In the meantime, please update my biography as above as follows: "She received her Ph.D. from St. Louis University, St. Louis, Missouri 1975 and her Master of Education 1970 from the same institution." If appropriate, update that statement as follows:". . .her Master of Education 1970 from St. Louis University as well."In other words, I have two degrees from St. Louis University. I apologize if I have not follows the rules of Wikipedia and hope that my biography will, at a minimum, be corrected to include that I have a Ph.D. and M.Ed. from St. Louis University. Thank you in advance for any help that you can give in this regard.
THERESA NANGLE OBERMEYER, Ph.D., has held Alaska Type A Teaching Certificate since 1979 and Alaska Real Estate Broker’s License since 1979. She received her Ph.D. from St. Louis University, St. Louis, Missouri 1975 and her Master of Education 1970 from the same institution. She majored in Political Science and minored in History, English, and Education at Maryville University from which she graduated 1967, St. Louis, Missouri. She graduated from Villa Duchesne High School, 1963. Dr. Obermeyer held public office on Anchorage School Board 1990-94 and prior to that taught at McLaughlin High School 1984-90. She was her Party's Nominee to U.S. Senate 1996. She has been a college administrator at four colleges in three states including Lindenwood University, Loyola University Maryland, St. Louis Community College at Florissant Valley, and University of Alaska. She taught Introduction to Sociology at Chapman University Fort Richardson/Elemndorf part-time 1981-1993. She was a Fulbright Fellow twice to India 1974 and to Jordan 1977. She is married with four adult children. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tobermeyer6 ( talk • contribs) 21:05, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
I have locked the page for 3 days as we appear to have a content dispute brewing. The subject of the article should raise their concerns on the talk page here rather then editing the page directly. Thanks. Spartaz Humbug! 09:50, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
It appears that the "official site" is no longer archived at archive.org; although it is still available at archive.is (see http://archive.is/KWSKO ). Is there consensus to use this alternate archive site for the link in the article, or just remove mention of the no longer active official site? --- Barek ( talk • contribs) - 17:56, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
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This material is written in a rather non-encyclopedic, even inflammatory style, and is clearly not NPOV. This person certainly sounds worthy of more then the stub one-liner that was here before your contribution, but I think the content needs a lot of work. It's missing some basic facts, and full of opinions expressed as fact. Some examples:
Please read WP:NPOV, WP:VERIFY and WP:CITE, and try to fix the material. — johndburger 13:41, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
__________________________________________________________
Anchorage Daily News June 12, 1996
JUDGE JAILS OBERMEYER FOR 30 DAYS EX-SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER'S PROBATION REVOKED FOR COURTHOUSE ALTERCATIONS Liz Ruskin, Daily News Reporter
(Text of copyrighted news article removed - can be viewed in page history if required)
-via Tom Cod
Tom writes: If someone would presume to be my editor or censor, that person should at least have some familiarity with this issue and the community it emanates from. Uh, so only Alaskans can edit your material? That's not how Wikipedia works (or editing in general, for that matter). And censor is the kind of overwrought language that your subject seems to like to use. Your material has been "censored" by at least four different editors—I'd pay attention to that, as well as the warning at the top of this Talk page. Biographies (that's what this is) of living people have to be written very carefully, here and elsewhere.
But anyway, the newspaper article you've provided is a beginning—I've added it as a reference, and changed some of the material to match the facts as stated there. It's not hard to do things properly. — johndburger 12:59, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Not sure what you're talking about—your material was reverted (by multiple editors) due to it's style, lack of references, etc., not because it was "outrageous". Perhaps you're referring to my comment of "unbelievable" concerning failing the bar dozens of times? If you read that carefully, you'll see that I simply asked for a better, substantiated number. Not unreasonable, I think, for any Wikipedia article, but especially important for living persons' biographies. (Please read WP:BLP.) Wikipedia is global, it's largely irrelevant what "the reading public in Anchorage" is familiar with. — johndburger 21:40, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
Do local people know more about libel? If you won't read WP:BLP, at least read the warning at the top of this very page. If you disagree with the policy, then as a lawyer, it'd be great if you could refine it. 'Til then, I'll follow the rules. — johndburger 10:42, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
What Arichnad said. :) — johndburger 01:23, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
User User:Tobermeyer6, who is or claims to be Theresa Obermeyer, added some comments and requests to the body of the article, where they don't belong, so they were deleted, but they do belong here on the talk page so I'll repost it here. The complete diff is here. I omitted some material because it's intertwined with other material (see the diff for full details) but the bulk is contained here:
Herostratus ( talk) 03:01, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
11/9/13 Theresa Nangle Obermeyer, Ph.D. I have mailed documents about Mr. William J. Moran, Jr., Chair, Alaska Permanent Fund Board regarding http://www.apfboardconfirmatin.org/moran.html to Ms. Maggie Dennis, Senior Community Advocate, Wikimedia Foundation. She acknowledged receipt of the packet 11/6/13. I hope that she has forwarded the documents to those who will research what I mailed. I would appreciate that very much. In the meantime, please update my biography as above as follows: "She received her Ph.D. from St. Louis University, St. Louis, Missouri 1975 and her Master of Education 1970 from the same institution." If appropriate, update that statement as follows:". . .her Master of Education 1970 from St. Louis University as well."In other words, I have two degrees from St. Louis University. I apologize if I have not follows the rules of Wikipedia and hope that my biography will, at a minimum, be corrected to include that I have a Ph.D. and M.Ed. from St. Louis University. Thank you in advance for any help that you can give in this regard.
THERESA NANGLE OBERMEYER, Ph.D., has held Alaska Type A Teaching Certificate since 1979 and Alaska Real Estate Broker’s License since 1979. She received her Ph.D. from St. Louis University, St. Louis, Missouri 1975 and her Master of Education 1970 from the same institution. She majored in Political Science and minored in History, English, and Education at Maryville University from which she graduated 1967, St. Louis, Missouri. She graduated from Villa Duchesne High School, 1963. Dr. Obermeyer held public office on Anchorage School Board 1990-94 and prior to that taught at McLaughlin High School 1984-90. She was her Party's Nominee to U.S. Senate 1996. She has been a college administrator at four colleges in three states including Lindenwood University, Loyola University Maryland, St. Louis Community College at Florissant Valley, and University of Alaska. She taught Introduction to Sociology at Chapman University Fort Richardson/Elemndorf part-time 1981-1993. She was a Fulbright Fellow twice to India 1974 and to Jordan 1977. She is married with four adult children. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tobermeyer6 ( talk • contribs) 21:05, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
I have locked the page for 3 days as we appear to have a content dispute brewing. The subject of the article should raise their concerns on the talk page here rather then editing the page directly. Thanks. Spartaz Humbug! 09:50, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
It appears that the "official site" is no longer archived at archive.org; although it is still available at archive.is (see http://archive.is/KWSKO ). Is there consensus to use this alternate archive site for the link in the article, or just remove mention of the no longer active official site? --- Barek ( talk • contribs) - 17:56, 11 November 2013 (UTC)