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Disclaimer - I don't understand this at all - can you tell? :o). Seeking clarification, please. Type_(metaphysics) says "Types are a category of being." Then, should "type" not also be in the list of "Physical thoughts, Minds, Classes, Properties, Relations...."? It also says "an instance of a type is called a token of that thing" - is the term 'token' specific to types or does it also refer to instances of other categories? --—Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.240.229.6 ( talk • contribs) 15:39, 9 March 2004
As a major topic in metaphysics, perhaps the biggest, it strikes me how poor this page is. It is clearly a mish-mash of different writers using inconsistent terminology (the poor quality is even reflected in the article's title: the article is called "category of being," even though the bolded word in the opening sentence is "categories of being." Before I added it, searching for "ontological scheme" did not even redirect here.
I think an expert should rewrite the whole thing, starting off by giving the goal (to create a minimal, exhaustive, and exclusive list of all the fundamental kinds (no universal negative categories, or disjunctive categories) of things that exist) - i.e. a category has to "earn" a place on the list by proving itself to be irreducible to other categories, or capable of being eliminated entirely. In the second part, s/he should then list the categories that have been argued to exist (be generous in this part, since reductive/eliminative arguments will come next). And in the third part, s/he should discuss arguments for/against certain categories e.g. Hume argued that space and time don't "deserve" a category on the list because they are only constructs of the human mind. —Preceding unsigned comment added by KSchutte ( talk • contribs) 20:34, 31 January 2007
The link to point of view in the Categorical distinctions section is pointing to a disambiguation page that I'm currently working on. I have no idea where the proper location of this link should go. Could one of the article editors please take a look at Point of view and move the link accordingly? Or post here and let me know and I'll do it? - Thank you. - Zvar 17:09, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
There is a take on ousia which regards every individual thing as infinite. I believe it is so in The Symposium, certainly in Blake, and elsewhere. If it is taken as such the 'bundle theory' and phylogenic and culturo-symbolic adaptations in man create a very interesting system. Wblakesx ( talk) 19:02, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
Fink, Eugen, Ute Saine, and Thomas Saine. "The oasis of happiness: Toward an ontology of play." Yale French Studies (1968): 19-30. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Idrisdaneel ( talk • contribs) 09:41, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
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I'm glad to wait a few days, but I think the multiple issues tag should be removed from this article. Most sections have citations attached to practically every line and the sources cited are standard and non-problematic. ThomasMikael ( talk) 14:02, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
The proper name for the territory that this page would be better be titled "Theory of Categories." Discussion of the categories of being is generally referred to by this phrase in the literature of philosophy and metaphysics. The lineage or imprimatur on using "Theory of Categories" vs. "Category of being" runs from Duns Scotus (who technically referred to the discussion as "The Doctrine of Being" to the latter-day 20th century philosophers from Ernst Bloch, Franz Rosenzweig, Walter Benjamin and even Gershom Scholem to (much more famously or infamously) Heidegger and other continental philosophers of his persuasion. Outside of the elder sources leading up to the competing modern spheres of discussion I've just mentioned, the question is not much discussed (though it is an important issue within that particular sphere of discourse). It is true that Aristotle did not designate that his work on Categories was a theory or doctrine--but he didn't organize recurrent themes in his work under headings like that elsewhere either. Rather this has been a convention for perhaps twelve hundred to two thousand years as a way to refer, for example, to recurrent themes in the work of authors from antiquity. So far as I can recall, "categories of being" used as an effective subject heading (rather than a descriptive phrase) is a form of nomination for this territory that I've only encountered on this particular Wikipedia page and though it's not a terrible descriptor (re: the Theory of Categories is concerned with ontology or questions of being and existence) I think it is not the recognized term. I move to rename the page, redirect categories of being and mention somewhere in the introductory. If I don't hear any objections in the next day or two and I'm going to go ahead and pull the trigger on this.
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Disclaimer - I don't understand this at all - can you tell? :o). Seeking clarification, please. Type_(metaphysics) says "Types are a category of being." Then, should "type" not also be in the list of "Physical thoughts, Minds, Classes, Properties, Relations...."? It also says "an instance of a type is called a token of that thing" - is the term 'token' specific to types or does it also refer to instances of other categories? --—Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.240.229.6 ( talk • contribs) 15:39, 9 March 2004
As a major topic in metaphysics, perhaps the biggest, it strikes me how poor this page is. It is clearly a mish-mash of different writers using inconsistent terminology (the poor quality is even reflected in the article's title: the article is called "category of being," even though the bolded word in the opening sentence is "categories of being." Before I added it, searching for "ontological scheme" did not even redirect here.
I think an expert should rewrite the whole thing, starting off by giving the goal (to create a minimal, exhaustive, and exclusive list of all the fundamental kinds (no universal negative categories, or disjunctive categories) of things that exist) - i.e. a category has to "earn" a place on the list by proving itself to be irreducible to other categories, or capable of being eliminated entirely. In the second part, s/he should then list the categories that have been argued to exist (be generous in this part, since reductive/eliminative arguments will come next). And in the third part, s/he should discuss arguments for/against certain categories e.g. Hume argued that space and time don't "deserve" a category on the list because they are only constructs of the human mind. —Preceding unsigned comment added by KSchutte ( talk • contribs) 20:34, 31 January 2007
The link to point of view in the Categorical distinctions section is pointing to a disambiguation page that I'm currently working on. I have no idea where the proper location of this link should go. Could one of the article editors please take a look at Point of view and move the link accordingly? Or post here and let me know and I'll do it? - Thank you. - Zvar 17:09, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
There is a take on ousia which regards every individual thing as infinite. I believe it is so in The Symposium, certainly in Blake, and elsewhere. If it is taken as such the 'bundle theory' and phylogenic and culturo-symbolic adaptations in man create a very interesting system. Wblakesx ( talk) 19:02, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
Fink, Eugen, Ute Saine, and Thomas Saine. "The oasis of happiness: Toward an ontology of play." Yale French Studies (1968): 19-30. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Idrisdaneel ( talk • contribs) 09:41, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
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I'm glad to wait a few days, but I think the multiple issues tag should be removed from this article. Most sections have citations attached to practically every line and the sources cited are standard and non-problematic. ThomasMikael ( talk) 14:02, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
The proper name for the territory that this page would be better be titled "Theory of Categories." Discussion of the categories of being is generally referred to by this phrase in the literature of philosophy and metaphysics. The lineage or imprimatur on using "Theory of Categories" vs. "Category of being" runs from Duns Scotus (who technically referred to the discussion as "The Doctrine of Being" to the latter-day 20th century philosophers from Ernst Bloch, Franz Rosenzweig, Walter Benjamin and even Gershom Scholem to (much more famously or infamously) Heidegger and other continental philosophers of his persuasion. Outside of the elder sources leading up to the competing modern spheres of discussion I've just mentioned, the question is not much discussed (though it is an important issue within that particular sphere of discourse). It is true that Aristotle did not designate that his work on Categories was a theory or doctrine--but he didn't organize recurrent themes in his work under headings like that elsewhere either. Rather this has been a convention for perhaps twelve hundred to two thousand years as a way to refer, for example, to recurrent themes in the work of authors from antiquity. So far as I can recall, "categories of being" used as an effective subject heading (rather than a descriptive phrase) is a form of nomination for this territory that I've only encountered on this particular Wikipedia page and though it's not a terrible descriptor (re: the Theory of Categories is concerned with ontology or questions of being and existence) I think it is not the recognized term. I move to rename the page, redirect categories of being and mention somewhere in the introductory. If I don't hear any objections in the next day or two and I'm going to go ahead and pull the trigger on this.