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I saw there were some still-pending merger proposals, so I moved them here. I'm new to the merger process, so I hope I did it correctly. LimonesMI ( talk) 22:13, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
See Talk:merger discussion section. However, the link leads to nowhere. Could you provide a link to the merger discussions for what you have merged into this article? Veverve ( talk) 07:32, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
@ Manannan67: you merged some of the four articles to this one without explaining why.
It seems like it was a bad idea, since all the articles you have merged into this one are distinct concepts and not variations of fides ecclesiastica beliefs but respective levels of belief.
See for example [1]:
they are to be believed with divine faith (fides divina) and if they are also defined by the Church, then with defined divine faith (fides divina definita). If the Church defines a doctrine that is not immediately revealed, it is to be believed with ecclesiastical faith (fides ecclesiastica). A doctrine that theologians generally regard as a truth of revelation, but that has not been finally promulgated by the Church, is said to be proximate to faith (proxima fidei), and if such a truth is guaranteed as the logical conclusion from a revealed doctrine, it is called theologically certain (theologice certa). Below this level are many graces of certainty, ranging from common teaching (sententia communis), when Catholic theologians responsive to the Church's authority agree on some historical event as having occurred through the miraculous intervention of God.
I will now fix this by moving the article as suggested above. Veverve ( talk) 03:13, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
These are all gradations of the same concept: yes, gradations of theological certainty; not gradations of the fides ecclesiastica level of certainty. It is LimonesMI who suggested the article be renamed on this talk page, as I said.
The Doctrinal Commentary on the Concluding Formula of the Professio fidei from points 5. to 11. (included) mentions some theological notes. Veverve ( talk) 23:09, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
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I saw there were some still-pending merger proposals, so I moved them here. I'm new to the merger process, so I hope I did it correctly. LimonesMI ( talk) 22:13, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
See Talk:merger discussion section. However, the link leads to nowhere. Could you provide a link to the merger discussions for what you have merged into this article? Veverve ( talk) 07:32, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
@ Manannan67: you merged some of the four articles to this one without explaining why.
It seems like it was a bad idea, since all the articles you have merged into this one are distinct concepts and not variations of fides ecclesiastica beliefs but respective levels of belief.
See for example [1]:
they are to be believed with divine faith (fides divina) and if they are also defined by the Church, then with defined divine faith (fides divina definita). If the Church defines a doctrine that is not immediately revealed, it is to be believed with ecclesiastical faith (fides ecclesiastica). A doctrine that theologians generally regard as a truth of revelation, but that has not been finally promulgated by the Church, is said to be proximate to faith (proxima fidei), and if such a truth is guaranteed as the logical conclusion from a revealed doctrine, it is called theologically certain (theologice certa). Below this level are many graces of certainty, ranging from common teaching (sententia communis), when Catholic theologians responsive to the Church's authority agree on some historical event as having occurred through the miraculous intervention of God.
I will now fix this by moving the article as suggested above. Veverve ( talk) 03:13, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
These are all gradations of the same concept: yes, gradations of theological certainty; not gradations of the fides ecclesiastica level of certainty. It is LimonesMI who suggested the article be renamed on this talk page, as I said.
The Doctrinal Commentary on the Concluding Formula of the Professio fidei from points 5. to 11. (included) mentions some theological notes. Veverve ( talk) 23:09, 11 March 2023 (UTC)