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Please do not run automatic link generators on this article. In Wikipedia, internal links are supposed to connect an article to as many other articles as possible, but only WHERE THE LINK IS RELEVANT TO THE CONTEXT OF THE SENTENCE.
Someone ran the whole article through a link generator, linking things which were completely distracting to the article and the links that would actually be helpful to a reader.
For example, if a sentence mentions the Queen Mary, Old growth forest, or Haitian refugees being the location or subject of an episode, these things can be linked, but if an item mentions the progressive rock band Tool having recorded a song that mentions The X-Files, progressive rock should not really be linked because it's not directly relevant to this article, it's only used to categorize something that is (i.e. Tool, who should be linked). Otherwise you get to a point where every word but "the" and "a" can be linked.
Shouldn't the importance of this show to the Fox's emergence as a major player be touched on? Because with all due respect to The Simpsons; The X-Files is the biggest hit the Fox network has ever had. Mattm1138 22:42, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
I know they're not that different, but which version of the intro is best? Is it best to mention science fiction/drama as genres in the first sentence? I don't think it's necessary, since they're in the info box at the right, and the quote about sci-fi from the Times gives a bit clearer picture where the show lies as far as genre (appeals to many who are not sci-fi genre fans, and won awards in drama categories, yet is also fundamentally sci fi in the concepts).
The X-Files is an award-winning television series, created by Chris Carter, which first aired on September 10, 1993 and ended on May 19, 2002. The show was one of the FOX network's first major hits, and its main characters and slogans (e.g. "The Truth Is Out There," "Trust No One," "Deny Everything," "I Want to Believe") became pop culture touchstones. Described by The New York Times as "the defining series of the 1990s," The X-Files was seen to "make science fiction accessible to viewers who didn't consider themselves sci-fi fans," [1] coinciding with the era's widespread distrust of governments, interest in conspiracy theories and spirituality, and belief in the existence of extraterrestrial life. [2]
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The X-Files is a television series, created by Chris Carter, which first aired on September 10, 1993 and ended on May 19, 2002. The show was one of the FOX network's first major hits, and its main characters and slogans (e.g. "The Truth Is Out There," "Trust No One," "Deny Everything," "I Want to Believe") became pop culture touchstones. The X-Files was seen as a defining series of the 1990s, coinciding with the era's widespread distrust of governments, interest in conspiracy theories and spirituality, and belief in the existence of extraterrestrial life. [2] According to The New York Times, it "made science fiction accessible to viewers who didn't consider themselves sci-fi fans," [1] winning awards including Emmys and a Peabody.
What do you think about creating an article or at least devote some space here to The X-Files Magazine ?
I was almost sure that it was the Simpsons that started the season-by-season series bandwagon. One thing I’m sure we’ll find is true is that whatever the show that started it, it was on Fox. ~PhantomBPR
The first few seasons were broadcast on Friday nights at 9pm before moving to Sundays. If someone can find out (or remember) when the time slot changed this should be added to the article. Shoehorn 22:53, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
I found a really nice site that's a shrine to Glen Morgan & James Wong (plus Darin Morgan) but has some great interviews with them and anecdotes about the inspiration for various aspects of various scripts they did, plus lost scenes that were cut from "One Breath," "Clyde Bruckman" and others due to time constraints. I haven't seen this information elsewhere so I think it would be a useful link for the article, as these guys did write or oversee many of the series' best and most famous episodes.
For example, has info on Flukeman-- the costume took 6 hours to be put on Darin Morgan, had to be discarded and remade everyday of shooting after being immersed in sewage for the day's shoot, and he was in the thing for 20 hours straight at times basically unable to move (plus with two layers on contact lenses on each eye to tint it properly), so he urinated inside his suit. After a few 20-hour days of that, the guy damn well deserved to be an X-Files writer.
URL is here: http://www.morganandwongonline.com/episodes.html
One pivotal shipper episode was "Triangle" (6x03), in which Mulder and Scully shared their first on-camera kiss - on a ship, in fact - although the episode did not actually take place in reality.
The 'fan faire' section seems to be thinly-veiled Alienware marketing added by 209.42.44.132. While it may be true that The X-Files inspired the company's founders, I don't think that deserves an entry in the main X-Files article. Any objections to getting rid of it? Chrismear 00:13, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
The "X-Files" article incorrectly lists the episode count of the series as 202, and every time I change it, someone incorrectly changes it back. Though "The Truth" was assigned two production codes (9x19 and 9x20) due to it's double-length and has subsequently been split up into two parts for reruns, it originally aired as a single episode, with only one title and end credits sequence. The Season 9 DVD reflects this, it plays as originally aired and it labled as episode #19, and the packaging officially counts 19 episodes on the complete set. In any event, to say that there were 202 episodes has no merit. If one strictly adheres to the production numbers, then one must also accept Episode 3x99, which was the interactive "X-Files" video game. The footage for this game was shot by the "X-Files" crew during the show's third season and was given a production code for internal purposes. The fact that the game is obviously not an "X-Files" episode completely invalidates the production codes as a strict basis for episode count.
Did the list of fan terms come from a different source/list, and if so, where? Some of them seem needlessly obscure, or have at least fallen out of use. If no one has an issue, I'll pare them down to more commonly-used terms (seeing as they're an anecdotal part of the page, anyway) Frey at last 01:04, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm a big X-Files fan, but some of the entries in the Trivia section seem too trivial to me. "Scully was named after sportscaster Vin Scully" is interesting, but "The number of Scully's files (stolen by Duane Barry) is 73317" is not (unless, of course, that number is supposed to be significant.) Anyone object to it being trimmed down? Pelago 14:19, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
"42" is the answer to life, the universe, and everything, according to the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy. mulder, i believe, lived in apt #42 (right?). tongue-in-cheek humor for sci-fi nerds.
I hope no one minds but I have added and expanded on the "Mythology Section". As a fan of the X-Files (as is usual with everyone - of the main plot rather than the other epidodes) I thought it wise to add this section with the episodes in order, incorporating the movie to make more sense. It takes up little room and is quite significant so thoght It a good idea, hope others do. Maybe it needs tidying up a little but I think it should be kept never the less. :0)
Someone has removed the breakdown of "mytholology" episodes by season and replaced it with just a list of episodes on the "X-Files Mythology" DVD set. I haven't seen all the episodes mentioned on the by-season list, but I suspect that the DVD set leaves out relevant episodes. Is there a consensus on which episodes are considered part of the mytharc? 70.226.180.159 03:09, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Yes, you are correct. I suspect in the decision to make the mythology DVD's, they left out some mythology episodes to make the count 60, such as "The Christmas Carol" saga, "Musings of a Cigarette Smoking Man" and "The Unnatural". I don't know why they left out those episodes, but they need to be included in this list. I also believe that episodes such as "Lenord Betts" could also be considered mythology because it is when Scully realizes she has cancer. But that should be decided by everyone here and not just me. Does anyone perhaps have a copy of the old mythology list we were all happy with?-- Exer 505 03:04, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
Sorry about that. I believe the one we're all happy with is the one with the mythology episodes broken down by seasons. -- Exer 505 19:10, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
I finally figured out how to go into the history of this article and replaced the mythology DVD format with the individual season mythology format. I also added The Unnatural to the list of mythology episodes. I'm sure we can all agree that this is mythology. I sure hope this section isn't changed again.-- Exer 505 15:29, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
I would just like to say that I love the mythology section in its current condition. I think it is the best it has ever been as of April 22nd 2007.
It seems as though someone has deleted both Dreamlands and the Unnatural from the mythology plotline. If Wetwired and Red Museum can be placed as mythology, then there is no reason why Dreamland 1 and 2 and the Unnatural shouldn't be.
Why isn't the catchy and famous X-Files themesong (intro) mentioned in this article? 194.144.242.224 17:06, 29 March 2006
Can someone clarify whether the X-files really exist within the FBI and add this piece of info to the article? Thanks!
In the Article page it is mentioned under trivia that Security Council Resolution 1013 would state that any government capturing an alien would kill it immediately. I've searched for the text of this resolution, but Resolution 1013 from the UN actually deals with Rwanda. Am I correct in assuming the reference to this resolution is not a piece of trivia but actually a piece of fiction?
Man, this page is such a mess. Looking at the WikiProject page for the correct structure of a TV show page, this one is quite off. I'm thinking that things like the Trivia, Taglines, Fan Terminology and Around the World sections should all be under one section with a number of subsections. Plus, the Character/Cast list needs to be moved up and other things moved around. Oh, what the heck, I'm going to give it a shot. Let me know if I mess this up. Zepheus 07:47, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Would anyone go up in flames if I included the Wold Newton speculations about character origins at the very end of the various characters' articles, if any? Fox Mulder has a most interesting one, and I would like to add it, but wanted to check with other editors first before getting shot down.
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Could we perhaps include a list of parodies? About every comedy show in the 90's parodied The X-files. I just though it would be a fun little list to make.-- Exer 505 15:33, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
I have marked this page for cleanup. You can see my reasons why on the Wikipedia:Cleanup Page. I'm hoping that fans of the show (like myself) and anyone interested in improving Wikipedia can help make this page better. If you are interested in a focused cleanup, please contact me on my X-Files cleanup subpage. Zepheus 05:25, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
Hello all. As self-appointed ‘’X-Files Cleanup Task Leader’’, I have created a list of things that I think need to be worked on for this page. Charles has already joined on to the cleanup team. Comments and suggestions are absolutely necessary, so please leave them under the appropriate tab, or make a new subheading if need be.
I've made a subpage on my profile in order to facilitate the cleanup process. Click here to go there. - Zepheus 21:53, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
The cast section is rediciously boring. It would be better to describe some of the characters a bit within the X-Files fictional universe. - TheDJ ( talk • contribs • WikiProject Television) 11:18, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
The X-Files has influenced a large number of television shows (such as Supernatural, which is mentioned), films, and even musicians (Catatonia) since it first aired. This is barely touched upon in the Legacy section, and it mostly just lists a number of similar shows. There were also a number of shows that spoofed The X-Files, including The Simpsons and MadTV. I think that these should be mentioned here.
This section needs references and citations. Where did Carter say that Kolchak was the “father of The X-Files?” I know much of this is true, but it needs harder proof.
Kolchak is practically in Chris Carter's press releases. He mentioned that show ALL the time. Just check out the Carter FAQ and interviews used as references on the page.
And btw, the "father of the X-Files" thing is not in reference to the character Kolchak or the show of Kolchak: The Night Stalker (though it COULD be, according to Carter), the words were used to describe Arthur Dales, a character Carter/Spotnitz wrote who is the father of the "X file" cases, WITHIN the X-Files universe (see episode "Travelers"), in that he was the first to investigate them. The part was written specifically for Darren McGavin who played Kolchak to appear in the role. 172.148.185.131 14:42, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
This list only touches upon the many awards the show has won (or been nominated for). I don’t think we need to list them all, but there should be a mention that it won awards from many different agencies and not just Emmys. For example, it won the Environmental Media Award twice during its run. [1]
Early Fan Acclaim This section reads as follows – ‘’“Many fans consider the show's creative peak to have occurred before the fifth season....”’’ Where does this information come from? According to GEOS, the most popular seasons are Seasons 5 and 6 [2]. Also, this section notes that The X-Files won only one Cinematography Emmy. While this is true, the show was nominated for ‘’ Outstanding Achievement in Cinematography in Regular Series’’ by the ASC 10 times, and won the award twice(see link #1). I think words like “legendary” need to be removed; that doesn’t feel like NPOV. We can possibly say “popular” perhaps, but not “legendary.” This section could also possible be reordered. The show underwent a number of changes behind-the-scenes that affected its tone and quality. Perhaps this section could be ordered by “era.” For example, ‘’’Seasons 1-2’’’, ‘’’Seasons 3-4’’’, etc.
Trivia A lot of this information is important and interesting, and needs to be moved to the appropriate category. For example, “When "Requiem" (the season 7 finale) completed shooting, the producers were unsure if they would come back for an eighth season,” could easily be worked into the history section. And a lot of this information is completely unnecessary and unimportant. For example, “Scully's telephone number is 555-3564 and (202) 555-6431 (at home),” can be moved to that character’s page if it isn’t already there. It’s simply not important to the show.
Not sure what to do with these.
This could probably be moved to legacy.
At the very least, this section needs an intro stating how many countries the show has aired in, where it’s most popular, and places where it’s banned (if any). Most of these foreign titles are devastatingly uninteresting and unimportant. Zepheus 23:02, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
This list needs to be shortened significantly. So much of this is junk. - Zepheus 16:29, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Where did the TOC go? Am I missing something? - Zepheus 02:48, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm going to try to force a TOC later, when I can do it correctly. - Zepheus 00:27, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
I made a new page for recurring characters. I moved the whole list to that page. I don't think all of the names on the main page need to be removed, but perhaps half. Any ideas? - Zepheus 00:26, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
I removed these trivia because I can not see their importance. If they are important, they should be worked into the main article and not simply plopped into trivia. I suggest if you do reincorporate them that you strike it from this list.
- Zepheus 03:52, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
I've removed the following pieces of trivia in addition to those already gone:
Thingymajig 11:55, 8 June 2006 (BST)
This was removed from the Fan Terminology section. Couldn't find any official website for it. Doesn't seem notable enough for front page.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Zepheus ( talk • contribs)
This section also needs quite a lot of work. There is, on the season 2 section, an ideal template which should be replicated for the other 8 seasons. We also need to come up with more concise synopses for all remaining 170+ episodes. It will be worth it in the end however.
Thingymajig 20:49, 8 June 2006 (BST)
I quote this from the original clean-up marking page:
" Contains way too many lists, which comprise roughly 1/3 to 1/2 of the page. A substantial amount of information on the page is fan speculation rather than sourced references. The show was important in the history of television, but the Wikipedia page has become a collection of fan trivia. Much of the information can be integrated into the rest of the page (with some effort)."
Most of the superfluous trivia has been deleted, making the article much more concise. The speculatory sections of the article have either been sourced, or if they are entirely unnecessary, deleted entirely. I, along with others, especially Zepheus, have endeavoured to make this article fufill the cleanup requirements and I personally believe they have been. Okay, the article can constantly be improved and edited, and I shall continue to do so, but the key cleanup requirements, IMO, are fufilled. Can it be removed from the cleanup section?
Thingymajig 16:44, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
I've removed it now. It meets the requirements for cleanup sticky to be removed Thingymajig 15:34, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
That Cast section looks great. Who did that? Only one comment, I don't think the years on show section needs parentheses around the years, such as (1995-1997). I think simply 1995-1997 would look better (and be more correct). I'll make this change myself if there are no arguments against it. - Zepheus 21:37, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
'Twas me. Thingymajig 22:47, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
I figured it was you. Awesome work. All the work that you've done on this page is fantastic. Surely more work than I did, and I am thoroughly impressed with the page's improvement. - Zepheus 23:34, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
I would like to semi-officially announce that the X-Files cleanup is complete. A lot of people strived to make this article better, and I would like to thank them for their hard work on this. I would especially like to thank Xfpisher, Thingymajig, InShaneee and Bunbury18. Without them, this article wouldn't have improved from fan-cruft to a quality article.
Let's not let it end here. Everybody keep up the fact-checking, trivia-shortening and grammar-checking. - Zepheus 23:49, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
I imagine this is one of the main stumbling blocks that will prevent the article from becoming featured. Overall, this article has a lack of citations, especially in the influences section. But I'm having problems finding half decent interviews with Carter and the ilk. Anyone point some good ones out? Thingymajig 11:27, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
While we're talking about this, I'd like to bring up the 'Legacy' section. It's completely unsourced, and it seems like the only arguments for it would be original research, as well (barring some citable interviews with writer/producers saying how much they love X-Files). If these can't be found, I think it might just be best to condense it to a single sentence for insertion in the introduction. Thoughts? -- InShaneee 01:44, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Thought I'd bring up a few niggling little concerns I wasn't able to work out on my own with the article since it's now 'crunch time' :) .
There, it's been made a good article. Now there's the push to featured article. Thingymajig 14:42, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Several of the images currently used in the article are tagged incorrectly, or missing sources or fair use rationales. I uploaded a number of them - using the older copyrighting system - but I'm a little out of my league now. I'm fine, of course, with having them deleted, or deleting them myself, but I didn't want to do that without first seeing if anyone could lend a hand. If not, and we we're infringing on copyrights by using those images here, then by all means let's delete them from the page.
Frey 08:24, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, I wasn't logged in when I made these cuts [3] to the Trivia section.
The section was tagged for cleanup ("This article's trivia section is too large") as of 8-5-06, so I went through and deleted several items that either I knew to be false, needed a citation or more explanation, or didn't seem actually interesting in the way of "trivia." I'll outline my reasoning for most of my deletions:
Okay, that's about it. If you disagree, feel free to discuss it with me! If I don't hear anything, then I'll delete them/move them again, until asked to do otherwise.
-- Frey 21:45, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
In reference to the Mark Snow creating the x-files theme, it's mentioned in one of the FX:Behind the Truth segments from one of the first three seasons. I think he just said his elbow slipped. I can't remember exactly. Muldernscully 18:57, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
I checked my season 1 DVD the other day. It is on XF:Behind the Truth segment called 'Theme'. Mark Snow said that he had gone through several revisions, but CC felt that something was not quite right. Now paraphrasing Snow, "So Chris literally walks out of the room and I did this, (shows him placing his hand and forearm on keyboard *music plays*. I put my hand down on the keyboard and this sound was in the keyboard. And that was it." Muldernscully 19:48, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Found a secondary reference to a tv guide interview about the mulder/scully belief reversal here. Can't find anything about Final Destination (though if nothing can be found, it should be removed from that film's article, as well), and I'm betting the 'fox' thing is just speculation. -- InShaneee 14:53, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
What's with the kid, "Gibson"? He's obviously psychic and seems to be a recurring character, so I thought I'd find an explanation if I came to Wikipedia. Maybe someone familiar with the show could flesh out the guest cast a bit more...? Cribcage 04:44, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
I find it hard to believe that this article makes almost no mention of the fandom phenomenon. While it's commonplace for shows to have large online communities these days, complete with shippers of all varieties, The X-Files was surely one of the first (the first?) cross-over hit (Star Trek probably has true first place) to really run with usenet (no mention of ATXF and ATXC?! :o) and develop such a thriving fan community, especially wrt fan fiction. I mean you just don't see things like OBSSE with other shows... compare to Friends or Ally McBeal or... the difference is insane. People were so into it. And Chris Carter & the writers really fed off it. Man, it was only 10-15 years ago! Anyone else here with me? :/ -- pfctdayelise ( translate?) 12:12, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Addendum: the major comparison would of course be BtVS, but X-files came first. :P
These references would probably be useful: "DDEB, GATB, MPPB, and Ratboy: The X-Files’ Media Fandom, Online and Off" in Deny All Knowledge: Reading The X-Files (a review is here); "YOUR SISTER IN ST. SCULLY': An Electronic Community of Female Fans of The X-Files" in the Journal of Popular Film and Television Fall 2001. pfctdayelise ( translate?) 12:35, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
I agree that it deserves mention. There was a section that had a short list of fan terms that was removed by an anonymous user. See this for the edit. We can put it back in and turn it into paragraphs if we use those books you listed as a basis. Do you want to work on that, pfctdayelise? - Zepheus (ツィフィアス) 20:00, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
I wasn't saying that a list of terms/acroynms was a good idea (I don't like lists in general). I was merely showing that the page did at least have some mention of the fans at one point. I thought the information might be a useful starting point. - Zepheus (ツィフィアス) 17:49, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Where did the hyphen come from? Imdb.com lists the show as "The X Files" and the screen cap from the title screen as depicted on the Wikipedia page does not show a hyphen. In my opinion, for what it's worth, the page should be redirected to "The X Files". 66.184.16.58 17:28, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
In the season one episode “fire”, is the fire casting entity human or alien? If he is alien, that means he was a member of the resistance that could control fire. I’m not sure if it is really that important, but I think there may be a connection. (Forgive me if I’m totally off, I’ve only just gotten to season 8.) ~PhantomBPR
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WOULD ONE CONSIDER X-FILES TO HAVE USED THE SAME INTRODUCTION THEME AND/OR INTRODUCTION SEQUENCE FOR THE LONGEST IN ITS ENTIRE RUN? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.28.35.126 ( talk • contribs)
The Simpsons title sequence is different every week. Bart is always writing something different on the chalkboard and the end sequence of the family plopping down on the sofa is different a lot. The X-Files, however, did not alter a single bit for 7 seasons. I have no idea if that is any kind of record. Shows like Bonanza or Gunsmoke that ran for 20 seasons, could conceivably have had static credit sequences. Muldernscully 15:46, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
"At the time of its final episode, it was the longest running sci-fi show in American television history" - Not true, how about Doctor Who? At that time it 3 times more episodes. Please reference.
This article does not mention the X-Files Mythology DVD sets, such as this. Perhaps this should go in the DVD section. Should it? BartonM 13:47, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
I believe that would be a valuable addition. -- Rob DiLLy 23:22, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
I have added the Mythology sets. It could be improved by creating a table (like the full season sets) and adding DVD box set cover art. BartonM 20:05, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Attention all X-Files editors. Please check out the peer review of this article at Wikipedia:Peer_review/The_X-Files. Let's work on the things that are brought up there. I've archived the automated review on my user subpage. Please check it out there and cross things out as you work on them. - Zepheus <ツィフィアス> 18:25, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
If anyone has the first season of The X-Files on DVD, they can take a screencap and upload it over the leaf vortex image, putting in proper image info of course. - Zepheus <ツィフィアス> 05:44, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
"The show, perhaps to add to the mystique, never displayed episode titles on screen. It was one of the first TV series whose fans disseminated information such as this strictly via the Internet."
At the very beginning of the article but its not true. I recorded every episode of the first two seasons and got all the episode titles from TV Guide. A mcmurray 07:58, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
What is the big deal of the first line of the article where it says, "The X-Files is/was an ..."? One person writes "is" and the next person comes along and changes it to "was". Is there a way we can resolve this revolving problem? Do the Wikipedia admins have a preference on how to refer to television shows that are no longer in production? The X-Files is still shown in syndication on various networks, but is not making new episodes. Therefore, it's kind of like a dead person whom you refer to in a past tense. I don't think using "was" diminishes the X-Files. What do other defunct televison series use? I personally don't mind either "is" or "was". I just want this constant switching back and forth between tenses to stop. Muldernscully 17:22, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Good point, Nalvage. Muldernscully 15:06, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Removed cfdnotice, cfd has completed. -- Kbdank71 16:17, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
I don't mean the supporting characters, but rather the number of extras that appeared in the early seasons (I think up until about 4?) playing different characters. Usually in speaking parts. Ones that spring to mind are the Native American woman who plays the Werewolf guy's sister in one episode, and the black-haired woman who features heavily in the episode with the Quaker-like folks. These actresses played a number of other minor but speaking parts in these early seasons, and I'm sure there were others too I noticed while watching it. Does anyone have any more info? Xzamuel 19:20, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
I counted 29 images on this page. Is that necessary? Feels like overkill to me. Plus, I believe that there might be a limit for screenshots on an article. - Zepheus <ゼィフィアス> 19:54, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
I agree with you. I feel like you're arguing with me for no reason. So perhaps I should reword what I said. The structure/organization of the article heavily favors the History section. I think people should be able to read the entire article in one sitting (see Article_length#Readability_issues). At this point, I scroll through the page, note its length and think "no thanks." Many people won't make it to the part of the article where it mentions the importance of the show. You can move that section up but that only solves half of the problem. The article is 120 kilobytes long when the recommendation in 32 KB. As for splitting the article up, see Wikipedia:Summary_style#Size.
In response to "two early writers on the show, if you didn't read the article," I helped write the article. A number of us improved it to GA status. It wasn't Featured material, but it was a drastic improvement. I'm not trying to champion myself, but I do feel the need to defend myself from insinuations of my ignorance. - Zepheus <ゼィフィアス> 17:51, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
This article is much too long (121K at the moment). Several sections should be removed and summarized here. Avt tor 21:40, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Someone continues to remove the following from the page (usually positioned above the second to last paragraph in Seasons 3-5 section)
I may be wrong here but I think the removers are not getting it. First of all the image is GNU licensed/"free", as it was taken by another Wikipedian. This means that even if it WASN'T a good image or relevant to the content of the page, it would still be perfectly legal to use it, unlike the vast majority of images whose legality is nebulous (although this is a fact of pop culture articles. even if we used far less images as many have suggested to address this issue and also cut down page size, we would still be in some technical violation just for having any screenshots to identify Mulder and Scully at all).
Anyway, there are no legal issues surrounding the particular Image:Stanley_Park_1999_Rain.jpg, as it is not a screenshot from the show (although they did film in Stanley Park on occasion). The only reason to remove the Vancouver image is if it's not relevant.
I think it is VERY relevant.
Even with all the pretty, tiny, screenshots littering the page, there is no image which clearly identifies the "X-Files look" (there is an image from One Breath, but this is an unusual surreal landscape). This is of course not necessary, but many episodes shot over the first five years from the pilot on, did have that foggy, rainy look. There are even quotes from Chris Carter to the effect that Vancouver was the "main character" in the show. Even in the years since they relocated to LA, Carter made such statements, regretting the move because he was so enamored of the aesthetic value of Vancouver as a background for this particular show. In the absence of any "free" image identifying an X-Files episode that looks "distinctively Vancouver", this photo shows what a typical outdoor daytime X-Files scene from this era might look like. No, I am not from Vancouver. In fact, I have never even been to Canada. But when I first saw this image, it looked to me like The X-Files. That's what I mean.
I also noticed this is currently the main image in the Climate of Vancouver article. That is what that section is explicitly talking about- there was large controversy over Duchovny's supposed hatred of the Vancouver climate, as a reason the show left Canada at that time; in addition, the next section explains how the new climate in LA was utilized in different ways by the producers, creating a new, lighter tone to the show. Everyone knows what southern California looks like. This picture quickly summarizes that Vancouver look for someone who doesn't read the text.
If the image itself is not enough, the image caption clearly states its relevance to The X-Files (and also provides information not specified in the article text, so by deleting the image that is also deleted). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.162.21.82 ( talk) 02:05, 30 March 2007 (UTC).
maybe we should have one of those .ogg sound clips, of mark snow's theme song as it is one of the most recognizeable aspects of the show (though I can't imagine many people reading this article wouldn't already have heard it).
and redirects: Typing "Frohike" should redirect automatically to Melvin Frohike. "Krycek" should redirect automatically to Alex Krycek. "Langly" (note spelling) should redirect to Richard Langly. There is apparently no one else notable with these names. Also, the first names of the Lone Gunmen were not even invented until several seasons into The X-Files, they usually went by last names only. 172.148.185.131 00:35, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Science fantasy huh? Umm. OK, I guess? Watched the whole run of the show, never referred to it or heard it referred to as science fantasy. A mcmurray ( talk • contribs) 19:46, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Seems like there should be articles on:
This is very confusing. Is this a new feature of TV show infoboxes? It doesn't work to list Millennium there. As described in the later section, and linked in The X-Files NAV box at the bottom, it is "related", not only are they both created by Carter and produced by Ten Thirteen, meaning there's a lot of overlap of fans, there was even a crossover episode and occasional in-jokes/allusions between the shows, which is mentioned in the appropriate section of this article. But fundamentally they don't appear to occur in the same universe, except for these few crossover episodes, which doesn't merit it being in the infobox at the top. Besides that, someone looking at the infobox would have the idea the relation between the shows is "chronological" like the relation between All in the Family and Archie Bunker's Place, and that's completely untrue. Lone Gunmen on the other hand, doesn't have complete continuity with The X-Files and has a different focus from what I've heard, but is definitely a spinoff of The X-Files.
На вибрану -- Miwanya 13:13, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
I believe the correct name of the ship used in the episode "Triangle" is RMS Queen Mary, not HMS.
The RMS is located in Long Beach, CA, and the RMS Queen Mary article references the episode being shot there.
Johncorle 18:21, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Okay. This issue has been going on in a slow motion edit war a long time. In the info box at the top, do we identify The X-Files as an American show, or an American AND also (secondarily) Canadian show? And in the intro sentence, do we have to characterize the show as being from a particular country? Obviously if we chose one country, it would have to be the United States, but the issue is more complicated than it seems.
I'm going to lay out the points I see on each side, and hopefully (please please) some other people will come on this page for once and say what they think on this issue. Maybe someone with more Wiki-knowledge can help make this decision from the facts below, even if that person has never watched the show.
For US only in infobox:
For US and also Canada in infobox:
I have yet to see a specific guideline on how to determine the nationality of a product created by/for a multinational company, with multinational crew and cast. I am not Canadian, in fact I have never been there, but I think until such time as there's a specific policy on how to determine nationality for all TV show articles (or someone makes us here aware of it), I will argue for Canada to be included as a secondary nationality - my preference was for a line break and then
Canada (filming, 1993-1998) - and edit as necessary. If the show was largely filmed in Canada, with Canadian actors in most of the secondary roles, and the look of those locations was considered of key importance, and it aired in Canada at the same time as in the US all through its run, I think we could consider viewers were watching both an American AND a Canadian product, at least for the first five years, regardless of where the money came from.
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Subpages should be made, length is getting oppressive. History of X-Files or X-Files seasons 1-3, or even each season could have its own article. Quadzilla99 03:19, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Just a notice, I will be nominating this for Good article review in two weeks if size trimming doesn't begin. Quadzilla99 11:32, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
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For parodies, I think we could include the "VISITORS FROM DOWN THE STREET" episode from CRUSADER (the BABYLON 5 spinoff). In that episode the human starship crew tries to contact a planet and winds up tangling with a paranoid alien, a red-scaled scientific female alien, and a cigarette-smoking alien who wants to make a deal with them.
The ANDROMEDA episode "PITILESS AS THE SUN" did another sort of reversal by borrowing the X-File concept and casting William B. Davis (the Cigarette Smoking Man actor) in the Mulder role. CharlesTheBold 00:41, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
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Please do not run automatic link generators on this article. In Wikipedia, internal links are supposed to connect an article to as many other articles as possible, but only WHERE THE LINK IS RELEVANT TO THE CONTEXT OF THE SENTENCE.
Someone ran the whole article through a link generator, linking things which were completely distracting to the article and the links that would actually be helpful to a reader.
For example, if a sentence mentions the Queen Mary, Old growth forest, or Haitian refugees being the location or subject of an episode, these things can be linked, but if an item mentions the progressive rock band Tool having recorded a song that mentions The X-Files, progressive rock should not really be linked because it's not directly relevant to this article, it's only used to categorize something that is (i.e. Tool, who should be linked). Otherwise you get to a point where every word but "the" and "a" can be linked.
Shouldn't the importance of this show to the Fox's emergence as a major player be touched on? Because with all due respect to The Simpsons; The X-Files is the biggest hit the Fox network has ever had. Mattm1138 22:42, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
I know they're not that different, but which version of the intro is best? Is it best to mention science fiction/drama as genres in the first sentence? I don't think it's necessary, since they're in the info box at the right, and the quote about sci-fi from the Times gives a bit clearer picture where the show lies as far as genre (appeals to many who are not sci-fi genre fans, and won awards in drama categories, yet is also fundamentally sci fi in the concepts).
The X-Files is an award-winning television series, created by Chris Carter, which first aired on September 10, 1993 and ended on May 19, 2002. The show was one of the FOX network's first major hits, and its main characters and slogans (e.g. "The Truth Is Out There," "Trust No One," "Deny Everything," "I Want to Believe") became pop culture touchstones. Described by The New York Times as "the defining series of the 1990s," The X-Files was seen to "make science fiction accessible to viewers who didn't consider themselves sci-fi fans," [1] coinciding with the era's widespread distrust of governments, interest in conspiracy theories and spirituality, and belief in the existence of extraterrestrial life. [2]
OR...
The X-Files is a television series, created by Chris Carter, which first aired on September 10, 1993 and ended on May 19, 2002. The show was one of the FOX network's first major hits, and its main characters and slogans (e.g. "The Truth Is Out There," "Trust No One," "Deny Everything," "I Want to Believe") became pop culture touchstones. The X-Files was seen as a defining series of the 1990s, coinciding with the era's widespread distrust of governments, interest in conspiracy theories and spirituality, and belief in the existence of extraterrestrial life. [2] According to The New York Times, it "made science fiction accessible to viewers who didn't consider themselves sci-fi fans," [1] winning awards including Emmys and a Peabody.
What do you think about creating an article or at least devote some space here to The X-Files Magazine ?
I was almost sure that it was the Simpsons that started the season-by-season series bandwagon. One thing I’m sure we’ll find is true is that whatever the show that started it, it was on Fox. ~PhantomBPR
The first few seasons were broadcast on Friday nights at 9pm before moving to Sundays. If someone can find out (or remember) when the time slot changed this should be added to the article. Shoehorn 22:53, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
I found a really nice site that's a shrine to Glen Morgan & James Wong (plus Darin Morgan) but has some great interviews with them and anecdotes about the inspiration for various aspects of various scripts they did, plus lost scenes that were cut from "One Breath," "Clyde Bruckman" and others due to time constraints. I haven't seen this information elsewhere so I think it would be a useful link for the article, as these guys did write or oversee many of the series' best and most famous episodes.
For example, has info on Flukeman-- the costume took 6 hours to be put on Darin Morgan, had to be discarded and remade everyday of shooting after being immersed in sewage for the day's shoot, and he was in the thing for 20 hours straight at times basically unable to move (plus with two layers on contact lenses on each eye to tint it properly), so he urinated inside his suit. After a few 20-hour days of that, the guy damn well deserved to be an X-Files writer.
URL is here: http://www.morganandwongonline.com/episodes.html
One pivotal shipper episode was "Triangle" (6x03), in which Mulder and Scully shared their first on-camera kiss - on a ship, in fact - although the episode did not actually take place in reality.
The 'fan faire' section seems to be thinly-veiled Alienware marketing added by 209.42.44.132. While it may be true that The X-Files inspired the company's founders, I don't think that deserves an entry in the main X-Files article. Any objections to getting rid of it? Chrismear 00:13, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
The "X-Files" article incorrectly lists the episode count of the series as 202, and every time I change it, someone incorrectly changes it back. Though "The Truth" was assigned two production codes (9x19 and 9x20) due to it's double-length and has subsequently been split up into two parts for reruns, it originally aired as a single episode, with only one title and end credits sequence. The Season 9 DVD reflects this, it plays as originally aired and it labled as episode #19, and the packaging officially counts 19 episodes on the complete set. In any event, to say that there were 202 episodes has no merit. If one strictly adheres to the production numbers, then one must also accept Episode 3x99, which was the interactive "X-Files" video game. The footage for this game was shot by the "X-Files" crew during the show's third season and was given a production code for internal purposes. The fact that the game is obviously not an "X-Files" episode completely invalidates the production codes as a strict basis for episode count.
Did the list of fan terms come from a different source/list, and if so, where? Some of them seem needlessly obscure, or have at least fallen out of use. If no one has an issue, I'll pare them down to more commonly-used terms (seeing as they're an anecdotal part of the page, anyway) Frey at last 01:04, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm a big X-Files fan, but some of the entries in the Trivia section seem too trivial to me. "Scully was named after sportscaster Vin Scully" is interesting, but "The number of Scully's files (stolen by Duane Barry) is 73317" is not (unless, of course, that number is supposed to be significant.) Anyone object to it being trimmed down? Pelago 14:19, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
"42" is the answer to life, the universe, and everything, according to the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy. mulder, i believe, lived in apt #42 (right?). tongue-in-cheek humor for sci-fi nerds.
I hope no one minds but I have added and expanded on the "Mythology Section". As a fan of the X-Files (as is usual with everyone - of the main plot rather than the other epidodes) I thought it wise to add this section with the episodes in order, incorporating the movie to make more sense. It takes up little room and is quite significant so thoght It a good idea, hope others do. Maybe it needs tidying up a little but I think it should be kept never the less. :0)
Someone has removed the breakdown of "mytholology" episodes by season and replaced it with just a list of episodes on the "X-Files Mythology" DVD set. I haven't seen all the episodes mentioned on the by-season list, but I suspect that the DVD set leaves out relevant episodes. Is there a consensus on which episodes are considered part of the mytharc? 70.226.180.159 03:09, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Yes, you are correct. I suspect in the decision to make the mythology DVD's, they left out some mythology episodes to make the count 60, such as "The Christmas Carol" saga, "Musings of a Cigarette Smoking Man" and "The Unnatural". I don't know why they left out those episodes, but they need to be included in this list. I also believe that episodes such as "Lenord Betts" could also be considered mythology because it is when Scully realizes she has cancer. But that should be decided by everyone here and not just me. Does anyone perhaps have a copy of the old mythology list we were all happy with?-- Exer 505 03:04, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
Sorry about that. I believe the one we're all happy with is the one with the mythology episodes broken down by seasons. -- Exer 505 19:10, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
I finally figured out how to go into the history of this article and replaced the mythology DVD format with the individual season mythology format. I also added The Unnatural to the list of mythology episodes. I'm sure we can all agree that this is mythology. I sure hope this section isn't changed again.-- Exer 505 15:29, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
I would just like to say that I love the mythology section in its current condition. I think it is the best it has ever been as of April 22nd 2007.
It seems as though someone has deleted both Dreamlands and the Unnatural from the mythology plotline. If Wetwired and Red Museum can be placed as mythology, then there is no reason why Dreamland 1 and 2 and the Unnatural shouldn't be.
Why isn't the catchy and famous X-Files themesong (intro) mentioned in this article? 194.144.242.224 17:06, 29 March 2006
Can someone clarify whether the X-files really exist within the FBI and add this piece of info to the article? Thanks!
In the Article page it is mentioned under trivia that Security Council Resolution 1013 would state that any government capturing an alien would kill it immediately. I've searched for the text of this resolution, but Resolution 1013 from the UN actually deals with Rwanda. Am I correct in assuming the reference to this resolution is not a piece of trivia but actually a piece of fiction?
Man, this page is such a mess. Looking at the WikiProject page for the correct structure of a TV show page, this one is quite off. I'm thinking that things like the Trivia, Taglines, Fan Terminology and Around the World sections should all be under one section with a number of subsections. Plus, the Character/Cast list needs to be moved up and other things moved around. Oh, what the heck, I'm going to give it a shot. Let me know if I mess this up. Zepheus 07:47, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Would anyone go up in flames if I included the Wold Newton speculations about character origins at the very end of the various characters' articles, if any? Fox Mulder has a most interesting one, and I would like to add it, but wanted to check with other editors first before getting shot down.
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Could we perhaps include a list of parodies? About every comedy show in the 90's parodied The X-files. I just though it would be a fun little list to make.-- Exer 505 15:33, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
I have marked this page for cleanup. You can see my reasons why on the Wikipedia:Cleanup Page. I'm hoping that fans of the show (like myself) and anyone interested in improving Wikipedia can help make this page better. If you are interested in a focused cleanup, please contact me on my X-Files cleanup subpage. Zepheus 05:25, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
Hello all. As self-appointed ‘’X-Files Cleanup Task Leader’’, I have created a list of things that I think need to be worked on for this page. Charles has already joined on to the cleanup team. Comments and suggestions are absolutely necessary, so please leave them under the appropriate tab, or make a new subheading if need be.
I've made a subpage on my profile in order to facilitate the cleanup process. Click here to go there. - Zepheus 21:53, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
The cast section is rediciously boring. It would be better to describe some of the characters a bit within the X-Files fictional universe. - TheDJ ( talk • contribs • WikiProject Television) 11:18, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
The X-Files has influenced a large number of television shows (such as Supernatural, which is mentioned), films, and even musicians (Catatonia) since it first aired. This is barely touched upon in the Legacy section, and it mostly just lists a number of similar shows. There were also a number of shows that spoofed The X-Files, including The Simpsons and MadTV. I think that these should be mentioned here.
This section needs references and citations. Where did Carter say that Kolchak was the “father of The X-Files?” I know much of this is true, but it needs harder proof.
Kolchak is practically in Chris Carter's press releases. He mentioned that show ALL the time. Just check out the Carter FAQ and interviews used as references on the page.
And btw, the "father of the X-Files" thing is not in reference to the character Kolchak or the show of Kolchak: The Night Stalker (though it COULD be, according to Carter), the words were used to describe Arthur Dales, a character Carter/Spotnitz wrote who is the father of the "X file" cases, WITHIN the X-Files universe (see episode "Travelers"), in that he was the first to investigate them. The part was written specifically for Darren McGavin who played Kolchak to appear in the role. 172.148.185.131 14:42, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
This list only touches upon the many awards the show has won (or been nominated for). I don’t think we need to list them all, but there should be a mention that it won awards from many different agencies and not just Emmys. For example, it won the Environmental Media Award twice during its run. [1]
Early Fan Acclaim This section reads as follows – ‘’“Many fans consider the show's creative peak to have occurred before the fifth season....”’’ Where does this information come from? According to GEOS, the most popular seasons are Seasons 5 and 6 [2]. Also, this section notes that The X-Files won only one Cinematography Emmy. While this is true, the show was nominated for ‘’ Outstanding Achievement in Cinematography in Regular Series’’ by the ASC 10 times, and won the award twice(see link #1). I think words like “legendary” need to be removed; that doesn’t feel like NPOV. We can possibly say “popular” perhaps, but not “legendary.” This section could also possible be reordered. The show underwent a number of changes behind-the-scenes that affected its tone and quality. Perhaps this section could be ordered by “era.” For example, ‘’’Seasons 1-2’’’, ‘’’Seasons 3-4’’’, etc.
Trivia A lot of this information is important and interesting, and needs to be moved to the appropriate category. For example, “When "Requiem" (the season 7 finale) completed shooting, the producers were unsure if they would come back for an eighth season,” could easily be worked into the history section. And a lot of this information is completely unnecessary and unimportant. For example, “Scully's telephone number is 555-3564 and (202) 555-6431 (at home),” can be moved to that character’s page if it isn’t already there. It’s simply not important to the show.
Not sure what to do with these.
This could probably be moved to legacy.
At the very least, this section needs an intro stating how many countries the show has aired in, where it’s most popular, and places where it’s banned (if any). Most of these foreign titles are devastatingly uninteresting and unimportant. Zepheus 23:02, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
This list needs to be shortened significantly. So much of this is junk. - Zepheus 16:29, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Where did the TOC go? Am I missing something? - Zepheus 02:48, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm going to try to force a TOC later, when I can do it correctly. - Zepheus 00:27, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
I made a new page for recurring characters. I moved the whole list to that page. I don't think all of the names on the main page need to be removed, but perhaps half. Any ideas? - Zepheus 00:26, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
I removed these trivia because I can not see their importance. If they are important, they should be worked into the main article and not simply plopped into trivia. I suggest if you do reincorporate them that you strike it from this list.
- Zepheus 03:52, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
I've removed the following pieces of trivia in addition to those already gone:
Thingymajig 11:55, 8 June 2006 (BST)
This was removed from the Fan Terminology section. Couldn't find any official website for it. Doesn't seem notable enough for front page.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Zepheus ( talk • contribs)
This section also needs quite a lot of work. There is, on the season 2 section, an ideal template which should be replicated for the other 8 seasons. We also need to come up with more concise synopses for all remaining 170+ episodes. It will be worth it in the end however.
Thingymajig 20:49, 8 June 2006 (BST)
I quote this from the original clean-up marking page:
" Contains way too many lists, which comprise roughly 1/3 to 1/2 of the page. A substantial amount of information on the page is fan speculation rather than sourced references. The show was important in the history of television, but the Wikipedia page has become a collection of fan trivia. Much of the information can be integrated into the rest of the page (with some effort)."
Most of the superfluous trivia has been deleted, making the article much more concise. The speculatory sections of the article have either been sourced, or if they are entirely unnecessary, deleted entirely. I, along with others, especially Zepheus, have endeavoured to make this article fufill the cleanup requirements and I personally believe they have been. Okay, the article can constantly be improved and edited, and I shall continue to do so, but the key cleanup requirements, IMO, are fufilled. Can it be removed from the cleanup section?
Thingymajig 16:44, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
I've removed it now. It meets the requirements for cleanup sticky to be removed Thingymajig 15:34, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
That Cast section looks great. Who did that? Only one comment, I don't think the years on show section needs parentheses around the years, such as (1995-1997). I think simply 1995-1997 would look better (and be more correct). I'll make this change myself if there are no arguments against it. - Zepheus 21:37, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
'Twas me. Thingymajig 22:47, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
I figured it was you. Awesome work. All the work that you've done on this page is fantastic. Surely more work than I did, and I am thoroughly impressed with the page's improvement. - Zepheus 23:34, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
I would like to semi-officially announce that the X-Files cleanup is complete. A lot of people strived to make this article better, and I would like to thank them for their hard work on this. I would especially like to thank Xfpisher, Thingymajig, InShaneee and Bunbury18. Without them, this article wouldn't have improved from fan-cruft to a quality article.
Let's not let it end here. Everybody keep up the fact-checking, trivia-shortening and grammar-checking. - Zepheus 23:49, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
I imagine this is one of the main stumbling blocks that will prevent the article from becoming featured. Overall, this article has a lack of citations, especially in the influences section. But I'm having problems finding half decent interviews with Carter and the ilk. Anyone point some good ones out? Thingymajig 11:27, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
While we're talking about this, I'd like to bring up the 'Legacy' section. It's completely unsourced, and it seems like the only arguments for it would be original research, as well (barring some citable interviews with writer/producers saying how much they love X-Files). If these can't be found, I think it might just be best to condense it to a single sentence for insertion in the introduction. Thoughts? -- InShaneee 01:44, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Thought I'd bring up a few niggling little concerns I wasn't able to work out on my own with the article since it's now 'crunch time' :) .
There, it's been made a good article. Now there's the push to featured article. Thingymajig 14:42, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Several of the images currently used in the article are tagged incorrectly, or missing sources or fair use rationales. I uploaded a number of them - using the older copyrighting system - but I'm a little out of my league now. I'm fine, of course, with having them deleted, or deleting them myself, but I didn't want to do that without first seeing if anyone could lend a hand. If not, and we we're infringing on copyrights by using those images here, then by all means let's delete them from the page.
Frey 08:24, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, I wasn't logged in when I made these cuts [3] to the Trivia section.
The section was tagged for cleanup ("This article's trivia section is too large") as of 8-5-06, so I went through and deleted several items that either I knew to be false, needed a citation or more explanation, or didn't seem actually interesting in the way of "trivia." I'll outline my reasoning for most of my deletions:
Okay, that's about it. If you disagree, feel free to discuss it with me! If I don't hear anything, then I'll delete them/move them again, until asked to do otherwise.
-- Frey 21:45, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
In reference to the Mark Snow creating the x-files theme, it's mentioned in one of the FX:Behind the Truth segments from one of the first three seasons. I think he just said his elbow slipped. I can't remember exactly. Muldernscully 18:57, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
I checked my season 1 DVD the other day. It is on XF:Behind the Truth segment called 'Theme'. Mark Snow said that he had gone through several revisions, but CC felt that something was not quite right. Now paraphrasing Snow, "So Chris literally walks out of the room and I did this, (shows him placing his hand and forearm on keyboard *music plays*. I put my hand down on the keyboard and this sound was in the keyboard. And that was it." Muldernscully 19:48, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Found a secondary reference to a tv guide interview about the mulder/scully belief reversal here. Can't find anything about Final Destination (though if nothing can be found, it should be removed from that film's article, as well), and I'm betting the 'fox' thing is just speculation. -- InShaneee 14:53, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
What's with the kid, "Gibson"? He's obviously psychic and seems to be a recurring character, so I thought I'd find an explanation if I came to Wikipedia. Maybe someone familiar with the show could flesh out the guest cast a bit more...? Cribcage 04:44, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
I find it hard to believe that this article makes almost no mention of the fandom phenomenon. While it's commonplace for shows to have large online communities these days, complete with shippers of all varieties, The X-Files was surely one of the first (the first?) cross-over hit (Star Trek probably has true first place) to really run with usenet (no mention of ATXF and ATXC?! :o) and develop such a thriving fan community, especially wrt fan fiction. I mean you just don't see things like OBSSE with other shows... compare to Friends or Ally McBeal or... the difference is insane. People were so into it. And Chris Carter & the writers really fed off it. Man, it was only 10-15 years ago! Anyone else here with me? :/ -- pfctdayelise ( translate?) 12:12, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Addendum: the major comparison would of course be BtVS, but X-files came first. :P
These references would probably be useful: "DDEB, GATB, MPPB, and Ratboy: The X-Files’ Media Fandom, Online and Off" in Deny All Knowledge: Reading The X-Files (a review is here); "YOUR SISTER IN ST. SCULLY': An Electronic Community of Female Fans of The X-Files" in the Journal of Popular Film and Television Fall 2001. pfctdayelise ( translate?) 12:35, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
I agree that it deserves mention. There was a section that had a short list of fan terms that was removed by an anonymous user. See this for the edit. We can put it back in and turn it into paragraphs if we use those books you listed as a basis. Do you want to work on that, pfctdayelise? - Zepheus (ツィフィアス) 20:00, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
I wasn't saying that a list of terms/acroynms was a good idea (I don't like lists in general). I was merely showing that the page did at least have some mention of the fans at one point. I thought the information might be a useful starting point. - Zepheus (ツィフィアス) 17:49, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Where did the hyphen come from? Imdb.com lists the show as "The X Files" and the screen cap from the title screen as depicted on the Wikipedia page does not show a hyphen. In my opinion, for what it's worth, the page should be redirected to "The X Files". 66.184.16.58 17:28, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
In the season one episode “fire”, is the fire casting entity human or alien? If he is alien, that means he was a member of the resistance that could control fire. I’m not sure if it is really that important, but I think there may be a connection. (Forgive me if I’m totally off, I’ve only just gotten to season 8.) ~PhantomBPR
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WOULD ONE CONSIDER X-FILES TO HAVE USED THE SAME INTRODUCTION THEME AND/OR INTRODUCTION SEQUENCE FOR THE LONGEST IN ITS ENTIRE RUN? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.28.35.126 ( talk • contribs)
The Simpsons title sequence is different every week. Bart is always writing something different on the chalkboard and the end sequence of the family plopping down on the sofa is different a lot. The X-Files, however, did not alter a single bit for 7 seasons. I have no idea if that is any kind of record. Shows like Bonanza or Gunsmoke that ran for 20 seasons, could conceivably have had static credit sequences. Muldernscully 15:46, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
"At the time of its final episode, it was the longest running sci-fi show in American television history" - Not true, how about Doctor Who? At that time it 3 times more episodes. Please reference.
This article does not mention the X-Files Mythology DVD sets, such as this. Perhaps this should go in the DVD section. Should it? BartonM 13:47, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
I believe that would be a valuable addition. -- Rob DiLLy 23:22, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
I have added the Mythology sets. It could be improved by creating a table (like the full season sets) and adding DVD box set cover art. BartonM 20:05, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Attention all X-Files editors. Please check out the peer review of this article at Wikipedia:Peer_review/The_X-Files. Let's work on the things that are brought up there. I've archived the automated review on my user subpage. Please check it out there and cross things out as you work on them. - Zepheus <ツィフィアス> 18:25, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
If anyone has the first season of The X-Files on DVD, they can take a screencap and upload it over the leaf vortex image, putting in proper image info of course. - Zepheus <ツィフィアス> 05:44, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
"The show, perhaps to add to the mystique, never displayed episode titles on screen. It was one of the first TV series whose fans disseminated information such as this strictly via the Internet."
At the very beginning of the article but its not true. I recorded every episode of the first two seasons and got all the episode titles from TV Guide. A mcmurray 07:58, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
What is the big deal of the first line of the article where it says, "The X-Files is/was an ..."? One person writes "is" and the next person comes along and changes it to "was". Is there a way we can resolve this revolving problem? Do the Wikipedia admins have a preference on how to refer to television shows that are no longer in production? The X-Files is still shown in syndication on various networks, but is not making new episodes. Therefore, it's kind of like a dead person whom you refer to in a past tense. I don't think using "was" diminishes the X-Files. What do other defunct televison series use? I personally don't mind either "is" or "was". I just want this constant switching back and forth between tenses to stop. Muldernscully 17:22, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Good point, Nalvage. Muldernscully 15:06, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Removed cfdnotice, cfd has completed. -- Kbdank71 16:17, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
I don't mean the supporting characters, but rather the number of extras that appeared in the early seasons (I think up until about 4?) playing different characters. Usually in speaking parts. Ones that spring to mind are the Native American woman who plays the Werewolf guy's sister in one episode, and the black-haired woman who features heavily in the episode with the Quaker-like folks. These actresses played a number of other minor but speaking parts in these early seasons, and I'm sure there were others too I noticed while watching it. Does anyone have any more info? Xzamuel 19:20, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
I counted 29 images on this page. Is that necessary? Feels like overkill to me. Plus, I believe that there might be a limit for screenshots on an article. - Zepheus <ゼィフィアス> 19:54, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
I agree with you. I feel like you're arguing with me for no reason. So perhaps I should reword what I said. The structure/organization of the article heavily favors the History section. I think people should be able to read the entire article in one sitting (see Article_length#Readability_issues). At this point, I scroll through the page, note its length and think "no thanks." Many people won't make it to the part of the article where it mentions the importance of the show. You can move that section up but that only solves half of the problem. The article is 120 kilobytes long when the recommendation in 32 KB. As for splitting the article up, see Wikipedia:Summary_style#Size.
In response to "two early writers on the show, if you didn't read the article," I helped write the article. A number of us improved it to GA status. It wasn't Featured material, but it was a drastic improvement. I'm not trying to champion myself, but I do feel the need to defend myself from insinuations of my ignorance. - Zepheus <ゼィフィアス> 17:51, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
This article is much too long (121K at the moment). Several sections should be removed and summarized here. Avt tor 21:40, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Someone continues to remove the following from the page (usually positioned above the second to last paragraph in Seasons 3-5 section)
I may be wrong here but I think the removers are not getting it. First of all the image is GNU licensed/"free", as it was taken by another Wikipedian. This means that even if it WASN'T a good image or relevant to the content of the page, it would still be perfectly legal to use it, unlike the vast majority of images whose legality is nebulous (although this is a fact of pop culture articles. even if we used far less images as many have suggested to address this issue and also cut down page size, we would still be in some technical violation just for having any screenshots to identify Mulder and Scully at all).
Anyway, there are no legal issues surrounding the particular Image:Stanley_Park_1999_Rain.jpg, as it is not a screenshot from the show (although they did film in Stanley Park on occasion). The only reason to remove the Vancouver image is if it's not relevant.
I think it is VERY relevant.
Even with all the pretty, tiny, screenshots littering the page, there is no image which clearly identifies the "X-Files look" (there is an image from One Breath, but this is an unusual surreal landscape). This is of course not necessary, but many episodes shot over the first five years from the pilot on, did have that foggy, rainy look. There are even quotes from Chris Carter to the effect that Vancouver was the "main character" in the show. Even in the years since they relocated to LA, Carter made such statements, regretting the move because he was so enamored of the aesthetic value of Vancouver as a background for this particular show. In the absence of any "free" image identifying an X-Files episode that looks "distinctively Vancouver", this photo shows what a typical outdoor daytime X-Files scene from this era might look like. No, I am not from Vancouver. In fact, I have never even been to Canada. But when I first saw this image, it looked to me like The X-Files. That's what I mean.
I also noticed this is currently the main image in the Climate of Vancouver article. That is what that section is explicitly talking about- there was large controversy over Duchovny's supposed hatred of the Vancouver climate, as a reason the show left Canada at that time; in addition, the next section explains how the new climate in LA was utilized in different ways by the producers, creating a new, lighter tone to the show. Everyone knows what southern California looks like. This picture quickly summarizes that Vancouver look for someone who doesn't read the text.
If the image itself is not enough, the image caption clearly states its relevance to The X-Files (and also provides information not specified in the article text, so by deleting the image that is also deleted). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.162.21.82 ( talk) 02:05, 30 March 2007 (UTC).
maybe we should have one of those .ogg sound clips, of mark snow's theme song as it is one of the most recognizeable aspects of the show (though I can't imagine many people reading this article wouldn't already have heard it).
and redirects: Typing "Frohike" should redirect automatically to Melvin Frohike. "Krycek" should redirect automatically to Alex Krycek. "Langly" (note spelling) should redirect to Richard Langly. There is apparently no one else notable with these names. Also, the first names of the Lone Gunmen were not even invented until several seasons into The X-Files, they usually went by last names only. 172.148.185.131 00:35, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Science fantasy huh? Umm. OK, I guess? Watched the whole run of the show, never referred to it or heard it referred to as science fantasy. A mcmurray ( talk • contribs) 19:46, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Seems like there should be articles on:
This is very confusing. Is this a new feature of TV show infoboxes? It doesn't work to list Millennium there. As described in the later section, and linked in The X-Files NAV box at the bottom, it is "related", not only are they both created by Carter and produced by Ten Thirteen, meaning there's a lot of overlap of fans, there was even a crossover episode and occasional in-jokes/allusions between the shows, which is mentioned in the appropriate section of this article. But fundamentally they don't appear to occur in the same universe, except for these few crossover episodes, which doesn't merit it being in the infobox at the top. Besides that, someone looking at the infobox would have the idea the relation between the shows is "chronological" like the relation between All in the Family and Archie Bunker's Place, and that's completely untrue. Lone Gunmen on the other hand, doesn't have complete continuity with The X-Files and has a different focus from what I've heard, but is definitely a spinoff of The X-Files.
На вибрану -- Miwanya 13:13, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
I believe the correct name of the ship used in the episode "Triangle" is RMS Queen Mary, not HMS.
The RMS is located in Long Beach, CA, and the RMS Queen Mary article references the episode being shot there.
Johncorle 18:21, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Okay. This issue has been going on in a slow motion edit war a long time. In the info box at the top, do we identify The X-Files as an American show, or an American AND also (secondarily) Canadian show? And in the intro sentence, do we have to characterize the show as being from a particular country? Obviously if we chose one country, it would have to be the United States, but the issue is more complicated than it seems.
I'm going to lay out the points I see on each side, and hopefully (please please) some other people will come on this page for once and say what they think on this issue. Maybe someone with more Wiki-knowledge can help make this decision from the facts below, even if that person has never watched the show.
For US only in infobox:
For US and also Canada in infobox:
I have yet to see a specific guideline on how to determine the nationality of a product created by/for a multinational company, with multinational crew and cast. I am not Canadian, in fact I have never been there, but I think until such time as there's a specific policy on how to determine nationality for all TV show articles (or someone makes us here aware of it), I will argue for Canada to be included as a secondary nationality - my preference was for a line break and then
Canada (filming, 1993-1998) - and edit as necessary. If the show was largely filmed in Canada, with Canadian actors in most of the secondary roles, and the look of those locations was considered of key importance, and it aired in Canada at the same time as in the US all through its run, I think we could consider viewers were watching both an American AND a Canadian product, at least for the first five years, regardless of where the money came from.
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Subpages should be made, length is getting oppressive. History of X-Files or X-Files seasons 1-3, or even each season could have its own article. Quadzilla99 03:19, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Just a notice, I will be nominating this for Good article review in two weeks if size trimming doesn't begin. Quadzilla99 11:32, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
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For parodies, I think we could include the "VISITORS FROM DOWN THE STREET" episode from CRUSADER (the BABYLON 5 spinoff). In that episode the human starship crew tries to contact a planet and winds up tangling with a paranoid alien, a red-scaled scientific female alien, and a cigarette-smoking alien who wants to make a deal with them.
The ANDROMEDA episode "PITILESS AS THE SUN" did another sort of reversal by borrowing the X-File concept and casting William B. Davis (the Cigarette Smoking Man actor) in the Mulder role. CharlesTheBold 00:41, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
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