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I think that we should hold off for now on including mention of the rumor of this serial being recovered. At this point Doctor Who Online is reporting it only as a rumor, and the sources at the Restoration Team say they haven't heard anything. I don't think that this quite meets the standards of WP:RS. — Josiah Rowe ( talk • contribs) 03:46, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Reporting the rumour itself as fact would indeed not make sense. However, given the magnitude of reaction to this rumour, would it not make sense to mention the rumour itself and a general description of reactions to it? -- guru 19:55, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm afraid it isnt for you to keep editing the discussion of the recovery from the article. It is now part of the history of the serial, just as possible recovery stories are to others. It deserves to be reported. Wiki is a source of information, and the possible recovery is a valid story. There HAS been a report on a possible recovery. That is enough to put it into the entry. Leave it alone for goodness sake! —Preceding unsigned comment added by BobMonkfish ( talk • contribs) 22:22, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Sadly for you lot I think DWO and Outpost Gallifrey constitute reliable sources. OG reported this, as a rumour, so it is referenced AS A RUMOUR. It is quite sad people have to exert control over something by removing a valid article from a web page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BobMonkfish ( talk • contribs) 12:52, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Someone recently re-added the recovery rumour to the article, cited to John Levene on the Podshock podcast. I haven't listened to the podcast, but I assume that Levene did indeed mention the rumour. However, it appears that the rumour was false, as the episodes have not surfaced. (I think there was discussion about this on the Restoration Team's forum, and Steve Roberts shot it down — he would know.)
So we've got a sourced claim reporting on the rumour, but no reliable source debunking it. What should we do? Should we remove the rumour, even though its existence as a rumour is now verifiable? Or should we add something about its apparent falseness, even though we don't have a very good source for that? (Can anyone find a good source debunking the rumour?) Thoughts? — Josiah Rowe ( talk • contribs) 20:53, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Hey, I found this article using Random Article and I cut down the humongous plot summary. I also removed the synopsis, here it is if anyone objects:
Some forty years after their first encounter, the Second Doctor, Jamie and Victoria discover that Yeti have invaded the London Underground. Help is at hand from an old friend - and a man who will become one.
Sorry if I messed up the summary, I tried to make it as short as possible by focusing on the Doctor, Jamie, and Victoria and removing all of the side stories and lengthy summary descriptions. I also put some of the backstory at the beginning of the plot summary part, instead of after the second paragraph.
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On October 10, 2013, the BBC announced that the missing episodes had been found in Nigeria. The footage has been remastered and will be made available via iTunes and DVD. Phillip Morris, director of Television International Enterprises Archive, made the discovery by looking up the records of overseas shipments of tapes made by the BBC.
Prof Bernard Quatermass ( talk) 17:01, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Not Done: There is currently an embargo (until midnight tonight) on the reporting of this. This means that there will be no
reliable source for this until tomorrow. There is nothing that can be done until then. =>
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This is not a blog or a fan page Hektor ( talk) 17:33, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
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Episodes 2,4,5,6 have been found of this serial, please ratify the fact that only one episode is now missing of this serial. http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/lost-doctor-who-classics-found-53619.htm Anthony "The Tweed" Carroll ( talk) 18:41, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Not done They cite a source which should be cited directly...but has been pulled from circulation so we can't cite them until they rerelease the article.
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18:46, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
The Independent article is now live again so surely updates can be made. Embargo my bottom anyway. Everyone knows they exist why not just stick it on the main wiki article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.22.146.184 ( talk) 22:44, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/tv-season/doctor-who-the-web-of-fear/id704945256
It says all the eps are on there. Even ep 3 which this page says is missing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.136.192.38 ( talk) 23:48, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Speaking about this iTunes charts, BTW is this story only availabe in these four mentioned countries? I.e. UK, USA, Canada and Australia? Meursault2004 ( talk) 09:01, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
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I think that we should hold off for now on including mention of the rumor of this serial being recovered. At this point Doctor Who Online is reporting it only as a rumor, and the sources at the Restoration Team say they haven't heard anything. I don't think that this quite meets the standards of WP:RS. — Josiah Rowe ( talk • contribs) 03:46, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Reporting the rumour itself as fact would indeed not make sense. However, given the magnitude of reaction to this rumour, would it not make sense to mention the rumour itself and a general description of reactions to it? -- guru 19:55, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm afraid it isnt for you to keep editing the discussion of the recovery from the article. It is now part of the history of the serial, just as possible recovery stories are to others. It deserves to be reported. Wiki is a source of information, and the possible recovery is a valid story. There HAS been a report on a possible recovery. That is enough to put it into the entry. Leave it alone for goodness sake! —Preceding unsigned comment added by BobMonkfish ( talk • contribs) 22:22, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Sadly for you lot I think DWO and Outpost Gallifrey constitute reliable sources. OG reported this, as a rumour, so it is referenced AS A RUMOUR. It is quite sad people have to exert control over something by removing a valid article from a web page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BobMonkfish ( talk • contribs) 12:52, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Someone recently re-added the recovery rumour to the article, cited to John Levene on the Podshock podcast. I haven't listened to the podcast, but I assume that Levene did indeed mention the rumour. However, it appears that the rumour was false, as the episodes have not surfaced. (I think there was discussion about this on the Restoration Team's forum, and Steve Roberts shot it down — he would know.)
So we've got a sourced claim reporting on the rumour, but no reliable source debunking it. What should we do? Should we remove the rumour, even though its existence as a rumour is now verifiable? Or should we add something about its apparent falseness, even though we don't have a very good source for that? (Can anyone find a good source debunking the rumour?) Thoughts? — Josiah Rowe ( talk • contribs) 20:53, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Hey, I found this article using Random Article and I cut down the humongous plot summary. I also removed the synopsis, here it is if anyone objects:
Some forty years after their first encounter, the Second Doctor, Jamie and Victoria discover that Yeti have invaded the London Underground. Help is at hand from an old friend - and a man who will become one.
Sorry if I messed up the summary, I tried to make it as short as possible by focusing on the Doctor, Jamie, and Victoria and removing all of the side stories and lengthy summary descriptions. I also put some of the backstory at the beginning of the plot summary part, instead of after the second paragraph.
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On October 10, 2013, the BBC announced that the missing episodes had been found in Nigeria. The footage has been remastered and will be made available via iTunes and DVD. Phillip Morris, director of Television International Enterprises Archive, made the discovery by looking up the records of overseas shipments of tapes made by the BBC.
Prof Bernard Quatermass ( talk) 17:01, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Not Done: There is currently an embargo (until midnight tonight) on the reporting of this. This means that there will be no
reliable source for this until tomorrow. There is nothing that can be done until then. =>
Spudgfsh (
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17:10, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
This is not a blog or a fan page Hektor ( talk) 17:33, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
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Episodes 2,4,5,6 have been found of this serial, please ratify the fact that only one episode is now missing of this serial. http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/lost-doctor-who-classics-found-53619.htm Anthony "The Tweed" Carroll ( talk) 18:41, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Not done They cite a source which should be cited directly...but has been pulled from circulation so we can't cite them until they rerelease the article.
DonQuixote (
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18:46, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
The Independent article is now live again so surely updates can be made. Embargo my bottom anyway. Everyone knows they exist why not just stick it on the main wiki article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.22.146.184 ( talk) 22:44, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/tv-season/doctor-who-the-web-of-fear/id704945256
It says all the eps are on there. Even ep 3 which this page says is missing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.136.192.38 ( talk) 23:48, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Speaking about this iTunes charts, BTW is this story only availabe in these four mentioned countries? I.e. UK, USA, Canada and Australia? Meursault2004 ( talk) 09:01, 23 October 2013 (UTC)