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apparently most people missed the beginning of the broadcast because they change channels (from another VERY popular radioprog) only AFTER the announcement had been made that this is a FICTION story. I also think we should have the exact TIMES of the broadcast 203.184.35.187 01:34, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Later studies also indicated that many listeners missed the repeated notices that the broadcast was entirely fictional, partly because the Mercury Theatre (an unsponsored "cultural" program with a relatively small audience) ran opposite the popular Chase & Sanborn Hour over the Red Network of NBC, hosted by Don Ameche and featuring comic ventriloquist Edgar Bergen and singer Nelson Eddy, at the time three of the most popular figures in broadcasting. About 15 minutes into the Chase & Sanborn program the first comic sketch ended and a musical number began, and many listeners presumably began tuning around the dial at that point. According to the American Experience program "The Battle Over Citizen Kane", Welles knew the schedule of the Chase & Sanborn show, and scheduled the first report from Grover's Mill at the 12 minute mark to heighten the audience's confusion. As a result, some listeners happened upon the CBS broadcast at the exact point the Martians emerge from their spacecraft.
The following discussion was moved from Talk:War of the Worlds (radio), the talk page for an article that was merged into this one. See that page's history for further authorship info. - dcljr ( talk) 09:14, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I haven't found evidence that there was panic. The broadcast was peppered with disclaimers, and anyone who listened for 30 minutes at a stretch would have heard these. I think the "widespread panic" idea is an urban legend. Let's leave out the "panicked listeners" sentence pending verification. Ironically, newspapers and radio stations did get hundreds of calls, seeking to verify what sounded convincing. We should do the same in this case. -- Ed Poor
I think the sentence needs to be re-inserted. The panic was well-documented, and is discussed in many print sources. I am not sure why you disagree, as you agree that hundreds of people were spooked by the broadcast, and made phone calls to their newspapers and radio stations in horror at what they thought was an alien invasion. What you are describing is a classic definition of a panicked population. The fact that these peopel should have known better is irrelevant; many people only listended for 20 or 30 minutes, and were scared.
There were isolated instances of panic by careless listeners who missed the often-repeated disclaimer, so the "panicked listeners" thing must indeed go back. My mistake. -- Ed Poor
-- Superluser 06:48, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Newspapers articles of the time depicting a panic do not necessarily prove that there was a real panic. They may as well prove that the newspapers wanted to make a profit by blowing the very isolated panic instances out of proportion. Note that the french Wikepedia article about the radio program states that it was an urban legend ( http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Guerre_des_mondes#Radio). This may be due to a recent french book about it: "La guerre des mondes a-t-elle eu lieu ? " ("Did the War of the Worlds take place?"), by Pierre Lagrange, showing how there never was a panic of that scale. I think this article should at least mention it. Link to the book: http://www.amazon.fr/guerre-mondes-t-elle-lieu/dp/2221104668 -- Onaryc 16:56, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
National Geographic reports "Thousands of people, believing they were under attack by Martians, flooded newspaper offices and radio and police stations with calls, asking how to flee their city or how they should protect themselves from "gas raids." Scores of adults reportedly required medical treatment for shock and hysteria." (source: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/06/0617_050617_warworlds.html). Actual panic needs to be mentioned.-- TyCamden 21:12, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Could someone check the name of the town "invaded" by the Martians. I believe it was Grovers Mills (with an "s") but I'm not sure enough of my facts to make the change. Eclecticology
Back in the 1980s or early 1990s I saw a made for TV movie depiciting Welles radio dramatization and the effect it had on the public. I can't remember the name of the show or know who starred in it. It might have been something like "The Show that Panicked America" or something similar, but I am really not sure. Does anyone else know what the name fo the show was? I'd really like to buy a copy of it (and, of course, mention it in the article). — Frecklefoot 15:38, Mar 19, 2004 (UTC)
A long time ago, I've seen on one of polish TV channels an english film. It was stylized fora a news program (like CNN) and reported a mysterious meteor impacts around the world. It has bee STRONGLY based on War of the Worlds, especially the last scene from the movie (Where we could seen no vision, only hearing a voice calling Hamburg). It should be on this article, but sadly, I don't remember the name of that film! If someone knows it, please write. 82.139.160.143 22:33, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
PS. Sorry for errors, I'm not fluent with english.
Last night I listened to the recording of the original radio broadcast and I found an inconsistency (or two?) with this article:
Actually, the "breaking news" part of the broadcast (the first 35 minutes or so in the version I heard) ended with the reporter on top of the building reporting on the Martian attack on New York City. He choked on the poison gas and collapsed to the ground. Then a (military?) radio operator is heard repeatedly asking whether anyone else is on the air. Incidentally, this is the only place in the program where I heard an announcement about it being a radio play (apart from the very beginning and end). Either the others were edited out of the recording for some reason or there really was only one reminder during the course of the program.
The last half (20-25 minutes?) is partly a monologue by Professor Pierson (the noted astronomer) of his diary entries, and partly a dialogue with another survivor. See the script at http://members.aol.com/jeff1070/script.html (it also shows only one break-in reminder that it's a radio play). - dcljr 18:44, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Oops, we have duplicate articles. This one needs to be merged with The War of the Worlds (radio). - dcljr 18:54, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I'm of the opinion that this page belongs back at "The War of the Worlds (radio)," as the program was not originally *intended* to be a hoax. Seth Ilys 15:42, 15 Jan 2004 (UTC)
This needs to be merged with War of the Worlds (radio); see also the discussion at Talk:War of the Worlds (radio). - dcljr 18:53, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
...hi:)-JR
This doesn't need a merge as much as it needs a move and redirects; merge the talk pages. But it should be at War of the Worlds (radio); here's why. HereToHelp ( talk) 13:11, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
The United States Air Force was established in 1947, nearly a decade before this show. Did they use that term so early? -- Toytoy 17:22, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
In the time of this broadcast, people commonly referred to the USAAC as the "air force" 71.35.97.37 ( talk) 12:34, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
I read on [3] that there was an actual invasion that took place before the broadcast, and that Orson Welles was simply trying to "protect the country from mass panic". Is this true? Scorpionman 01:42, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
I knew that the site is based on that dumb ol' series, but I think they should clarify that they aren't actually talking about a real event. Scorpionman 00:53, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
I'm suprised that the article does not include mention of the law (I believe) came about after the broadcast: station identification. You know, when the intterupt a football game or talk show to "remind" you what you are listening to. This way, the mass panic the broadcast caused could never happen again. Also: It is mentioned under the section on Sphere, but the broadcast has been widely used to demonstrate human interaction with aliens outside of fiction. Could we add this in? HereToHelp ( talk) 13:06, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/war_worlds.html The entire panic was blown out of proportion and considered by Alex Boese to be a bigger hoax than the broadcast itself. The article does nothing to reflect that... -- RPGLand2000 16:13, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
The Buffalo NY radiostation remade the radio show around 1967-1973 -- Theredstarswl 07:16, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
Note that The Simpson Halloween Specials also cast aliens in some of the stories. Also, there is an add-on in the DVD version of ID4 movie featuring the news spots showing during the film in a real-life news format.-- Manuel Cuevas 18:49, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
I really don't like to revert sincere edits, but this was an exception. The edits are well meaning, and not vandalism, but they are just not up to wikipedia standards. They inject unfounded personal opinion ("anyone can be tricked into believing in anything"), and they use inappropriate punctuation such as multiple exclamation points. Moreover, they were inserted in the middle of a completely wrong section. Mlouns 23:15, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know if the original brodcast in the Public Domain? Red1530 02:30, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
I added WTBQ to the stations brodcasting War of the Worlds. [4] Red1530 13:37, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
The author Richard J. Hand cites studies by unnamed historians who "calculate[d] that some six million heard the Columbia Broadcasting System broadcast; 1.7 million believed it to be true, and 1.2 million were 'genuinely frightened'". (Hand, 7) While Welles and company were heard by a comparatively small audience (Bergen's audience was an estimated 30 million), the uproar that followed was anything but minute: within a month, there were about 12,500 newspaper articles about the broadcast or its impact (Hand, 7), while Adolf Hitler cited the panic, as Hand writes, as "evidence of the decadence and corrupt condition of democracy." (Hand, 7) That whole paragraph seems to include weasel words. Also There aren't any citations for it, and what does (Hand, 7) mean? Some form of citation? Aetherfukz 01:14, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
I was about to delete the references to future broadcasts that have now in the past, but some of them say they will be repeating events. Should we fix these or just delete them? KenWalker | Talk 05:44, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
What an embarrassing paragraph. The mentalists have taken control.
Previous wikipedia text: A study by the Radio Project discovered that most of the people who panicked presumed that Germans — not Martians — had invaded
Jutta 05:19, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Recently, Moncrief has removed a lot of the Briticisms from the article (see [5], [6], [7]). These have been reverted without comment by Sennen goroshi (see [8]). While Wells' book was a British phenomenon, Welles' radio drama was an American one, so I can certainly see the merit of Moncrief's edits. Rather than start a revert war over which is correct, I thought I'd ask everyone to discuss it here and come to some sort of consensus first.
There are, however, a few edits that I think are pretty uncontroversial.
if the above are actually incorrect, then of course you are right to change them back. sorry Sennen goroshi 03:15, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
The popularity section seems to be more or less just a list of rebroadcasts. This could probably be condensed into a short table with columns for Call Sign and Year(s), which would also draw more attention to the parts of the popularity section that are not simply rebroadcasts.
I'd do it myself, but I'm busy at the moment. superluser t c 2007 November 01, 14:18 (UTC)
Area | Call Sign and Frequency |
---|---|
Los Angeles, CA | KNX 1070 AM |
San Francisco, CA | KCEA 89.1 FM |
Rochester Hills, MI | WXOU 88.3 FM |
Below is a copy of a message on the talk page of the user at this IP address. For some strange reason, this person keeps adding a link to a page that not only offers very low quality sound files for the broadcast, but also offers it for sale. Ironic, since the many other links there allow downloading higher quality files of it for free. Here's the message:
I am curious as to why you are so adamant about placing this at the top of the links on The War of the Worlds (radio). Do you own the site? The reason I've been reverting you is because the links are already basically ordered in the order of importance (such as sites devoted to the history of the broadcast). I honestly don't care how many decades the Earthstation1 link has been around. Is it really that much better than the other audio download links? After all, the only audio options offered are 28K RealAudio (which obviously can't sound that great) and TrueSpeech (which is soooo 1996). And the link for the award given that you provided is dead. And to top it off, it is a sale site, offering for purchase what one could easily download for free from many other links. Please state your justification for your placement and inclusion of this link, or I may have to take the whole issue to an admin. Thank you.
What's the consensus of the rest here? Quite frankly, the link is pointless, but I'll let that slide as a compromise. It most certainly doesn't belong at the top.-- Fightingirish 22:03, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
This guy definitely looks like a spamster. He has moved it back to the top of the list, and added back the original hyped language. I'd be in favor of removing the whole thing at this point, since he just won't cooperate. Mlouns 00:37, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
As of right now, 68.197.92.223 has gotten a final warning about his linkspamming. We shall see what happens next.
However, there seems to be some sort of difficulty in his links in general. This appears to be a commerce site, and from what I can tell, Wikipedia seems to frown on linking to these (which is why you don't see many Amazon.com links around). Here's what they say:
Adding external links to an article or user page for the purpose of promoting a website or a product is not allowed, and is considered to be spam. Although the specific links may be allowed under some circumstances, repeatedly adding links will in most cases result in all of them being removed.
Adding links to online free videos that promote a site or product is not allowed [see exception below]. Often these videos have been uploaded in violation of their copyright which adds an additional reason for not linking to them
From what I can tell, while the Earthstation1 site does have a wealth of product available, the sole purpose of the site is to sell stuff. If the ES1 site is allowed, shouldn't a buy link for Amazon.com be allowed too? In addition, after looking through some of the products on that site, the legality of some of the product there (copyright violations?) is unknown. I am not in favor of removing the link because of the boorish behavior of the person who put it there. But I am a bit concerned about the suitability of it being there in the first place. -- Fightingirish 15:49, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure that this is set in 1939, not 1938. For one, Welles gives the date at the start. Second, he says that it's after the "war scare" has ended and Germany is one of the nations to offer help to the US. Kuralyov 06:37, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
radio commercials aren't doing it for dramatic purposes, they really are interrupting the program —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.110.223 ( talk) 16:07, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
As a bit of local history, I can share with you that at least some people were in quite the frenzy over this radio broad-cast. At the time, my Great-Grandfather owned the gas-station in Hackettstown, NJ and was well located on the only real route between NYC and PA. My Gramps was in his early teens then, and never forgot this event.
Apparently they realized it wasn't a real invasion and thoroughly enjoyed the radio-broadcast. However, dozens of customers trying to get into or out of the city (NYC) and in various states of panick passed through to gas-up. Sales were very good that night, at least well enough that Gramps remembered it clearly some 60 years later.
I'm sure the media blew this out of proportion - However it would be equaly fictitious to say "There was no panic"... Just wanted to share. (SGP) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.20.146.14 ( talk) 00:25, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
At some point in the 1957 movie and perhaps in the radio broadcast the announcer says "Look to the Skies, Keep your eyes on the skies" or something to that effect. Can anyone help with an exact quote? Thank you. 216.142.5.130 ( talk) 12:32, 27 May 2008 (UTC)DHG
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apparently most people missed the beginning of the broadcast because they change channels (from another VERY popular radioprog) only AFTER the announcement had been made that this is a FICTION story. I also think we should have the exact TIMES of the broadcast 203.184.35.187 01:34, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Later studies also indicated that many listeners missed the repeated notices that the broadcast was entirely fictional, partly because the Mercury Theatre (an unsponsored "cultural" program with a relatively small audience) ran opposite the popular Chase & Sanborn Hour over the Red Network of NBC, hosted by Don Ameche and featuring comic ventriloquist Edgar Bergen and singer Nelson Eddy, at the time three of the most popular figures in broadcasting. About 15 minutes into the Chase & Sanborn program the first comic sketch ended and a musical number began, and many listeners presumably began tuning around the dial at that point. According to the American Experience program "The Battle Over Citizen Kane", Welles knew the schedule of the Chase & Sanborn show, and scheduled the first report from Grover's Mill at the 12 minute mark to heighten the audience's confusion. As a result, some listeners happened upon the CBS broadcast at the exact point the Martians emerge from their spacecraft.
The following discussion was moved from Talk:War of the Worlds (radio), the talk page for an article that was merged into this one. See that page's history for further authorship info. - dcljr ( talk) 09:14, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I haven't found evidence that there was panic. The broadcast was peppered with disclaimers, and anyone who listened for 30 minutes at a stretch would have heard these. I think the "widespread panic" idea is an urban legend. Let's leave out the "panicked listeners" sentence pending verification. Ironically, newspapers and radio stations did get hundreds of calls, seeking to verify what sounded convincing. We should do the same in this case. -- Ed Poor
I think the sentence needs to be re-inserted. The panic was well-documented, and is discussed in many print sources. I am not sure why you disagree, as you agree that hundreds of people were spooked by the broadcast, and made phone calls to their newspapers and radio stations in horror at what they thought was an alien invasion. What you are describing is a classic definition of a panicked population. The fact that these peopel should have known better is irrelevant; many people only listended for 20 or 30 minutes, and were scared.
There were isolated instances of panic by careless listeners who missed the often-repeated disclaimer, so the "panicked listeners" thing must indeed go back. My mistake. -- Ed Poor
-- Superluser 06:48, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Newspapers articles of the time depicting a panic do not necessarily prove that there was a real panic. They may as well prove that the newspapers wanted to make a profit by blowing the very isolated panic instances out of proportion. Note that the french Wikepedia article about the radio program states that it was an urban legend ( http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Guerre_des_mondes#Radio). This may be due to a recent french book about it: "La guerre des mondes a-t-elle eu lieu ? " ("Did the War of the Worlds take place?"), by Pierre Lagrange, showing how there never was a panic of that scale. I think this article should at least mention it. Link to the book: http://www.amazon.fr/guerre-mondes-t-elle-lieu/dp/2221104668 -- Onaryc 16:56, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
National Geographic reports "Thousands of people, believing they were under attack by Martians, flooded newspaper offices and radio and police stations with calls, asking how to flee their city or how they should protect themselves from "gas raids." Scores of adults reportedly required medical treatment for shock and hysteria." (source: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/06/0617_050617_warworlds.html). Actual panic needs to be mentioned.-- TyCamden 21:12, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Could someone check the name of the town "invaded" by the Martians. I believe it was Grovers Mills (with an "s") but I'm not sure enough of my facts to make the change. Eclecticology
Back in the 1980s or early 1990s I saw a made for TV movie depiciting Welles radio dramatization and the effect it had on the public. I can't remember the name of the show or know who starred in it. It might have been something like "The Show that Panicked America" or something similar, but I am really not sure. Does anyone else know what the name fo the show was? I'd really like to buy a copy of it (and, of course, mention it in the article). — Frecklefoot 15:38, Mar 19, 2004 (UTC)
A long time ago, I've seen on one of polish TV channels an english film. It was stylized fora a news program (like CNN) and reported a mysterious meteor impacts around the world. It has bee STRONGLY based on War of the Worlds, especially the last scene from the movie (Where we could seen no vision, only hearing a voice calling Hamburg). It should be on this article, but sadly, I don't remember the name of that film! If someone knows it, please write. 82.139.160.143 22:33, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
PS. Sorry for errors, I'm not fluent with english.
Last night I listened to the recording of the original radio broadcast and I found an inconsistency (or two?) with this article:
Actually, the "breaking news" part of the broadcast (the first 35 minutes or so in the version I heard) ended with the reporter on top of the building reporting on the Martian attack on New York City. He choked on the poison gas and collapsed to the ground. Then a (military?) radio operator is heard repeatedly asking whether anyone else is on the air. Incidentally, this is the only place in the program where I heard an announcement about it being a radio play (apart from the very beginning and end). Either the others were edited out of the recording for some reason or there really was only one reminder during the course of the program.
The last half (20-25 minutes?) is partly a monologue by Professor Pierson (the noted astronomer) of his diary entries, and partly a dialogue with another survivor. See the script at http://members.aol.com/jeff1070/script.html (it also shows only one break-in reminder that it's a radio play). - dcljr 18:44, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Oops, we have duplicate articles. This one needs to be merged with The War of the Worlds (radio). - dcljr 18:54, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I'm of the opinion that this page belongs back at "The War of the Worlds (radio)," as the program was not originally *intended* to be a hoax. Seth Ilys 15:42, 15 Jan 2004 (UTC)
This needs to be merged with War of the Worlds (radio); see also the discussion at Talk:War of the Worlds (radio). - dcljr 18:53, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
...hi:)-JR
This doesn't need a merge as much as it needs a move and redirects; merge the talk pages. But it should be at War of the Worlds (radio); here's why. HereToHelp ( talk) 13:11, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
The United States Air Force was established in 1947, nearly a decade before this show. Did they use that term so early? -- Toytoy 17:22, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
In the time of this broadcast, people commonly referred to the USAAC as the "air force" 71.35.97.37 ( talk) 12:34, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
I read on [3] that there was an actual invasion that took place before the broadcast, and that Orson Welles was simply trying to "protect the country from mass panic". Is this true? Scorpionman 01:42, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
I knew that the site is based on that dumb ol' series, but I think they should clarify that they aren't actually talking about a real event. Scorpionman 00:53, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
I'm suprised that the article does not include mention of the law (I believe) came about after the broadcast: station identification. You know, when the intterupt a football game or talk show to "remind" you what you are listening to. This way, the mass panic the broadcast caused could never happen again. Also: It is mentioned under the section on Sphere, but the broadcast has been widely used to demonstrate human interaction with aliens outside of fiction. Could we add this in? HereToHelp ( talk) 13:06, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/war_worlds.html The entire panic was blown out of proportion and considered by Alex Boese to be a bigger hoax than the broadcast itself. The article does nothing to reflect that... -- RPGLand2000 16:13, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
The Buffalo NY radiostation remade the radio show around 1967-1973 -- Theredstarswl 07:16, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
Note that The Simpson Halloween Specials also cast aliens in some of the stories. Also, there is an add-on in the DVD version of ID4 movie featuring the news spots showing during the film in a real-life news format.-- Manuel Cuevas 18:49, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
I really don't like to revert sincere edits, but this was an exception. The edits are well meaning, and not vandalism, but they are just not up to wikipedia standards. They inject unfounded personal opinion ("anyone can be tricked into believing in anything"), and they use inappropriate punctuation such as multiple exclamation points. Moreover, they were inserted in the middle of a completely wrong section. Mlouns 23:15, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know if the original brodcast in the Public Domain? Red1530 02:30, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
I added WTBQ to the stations brodcasting War of the Worlds. [4] Red1530 13:37, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
The author Richard J. Hand cites studies by unnamed historians who "calculate[d] that some six million heard the Columbia Broadcasting System broadcast; 1.7 million believed it to be true, and 1.2 million were 'genuinely frightened'". (Hand, 7) While Welles and company were heard by a comparatively small audience (Bergen's audience was an estimated 30 million), the uproar that followed was anything but minute: within a month, there were about 12,500 newspaper articles about the broadcast or its impact (Hand, 7), while Adolf Hitler cited the panic, as Hand writes, as "evidence of the decadence and corrupt condition of democracy." (Hand, 7) That whole paragraph seems to include weasel words. Also There aren't any citations for it, and what does (Hand, 7) mean? Some form of citation? Aetherfukz 01:14, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
I was about to delete the references to future broadcasts that have now in the past, but some of them say they will be repeating events. Should we fix these or just delete them? KenWalker | Talk 05:44, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
What an embarrassing paragraph. The mentalists have taken control.
Previous wikipedia text: A study by the Radio Project discovered that most of the people who panicked presumed that Germans — not Martians — had invaded
Jutta 05:19, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Recently, Moncrief has removed a lot of the Briticisms from the article (see [5], [6], [7]). These have been reverted without comment by Sennen goroshi (see [8]). While Wells' book was a British phenomenon, Welles' radio drama was an American one, so I can certainly see the merit of Moncrief's edits. Rather than start a revert war over which is correct, I thought I'd ask everyone to discuss it here and come to some sort of consensus first.
There are, however, a few edits that I think are pretty uncontroversial.
if the above are actually incorrect, then of course you are right to change them back. sorry Sennen goroshi 03:15, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
The popularity section seems to be more or less just a list of rebroadcasts. This could probably be condensed into a short table with columns for Call Sign and Year(s), which would also draw more attention to the parts of the popularity section that are not simply rebroadcasts.
I'd do it myself, but I'm busy at the moment. superluser t c 2007 November 01, 14:18 (UTC)
Area | Call Sign and Frequency |
---|---|
Los Angeles, CA | KNX 1070 AM |
San Francisco, CA | KCEA 89.1 FM |
Rochester Hills, MI | WXOU 88.3 FM |
Below is a copy of a message on the talk page of the user at this IP address. For some strange reason, this person keeps adding a link to a page that not only offers very low quality sound files for the broadcast, but also offers it for sale. Ironic, since the many other links there allow downloading higher quality files of it for free. Here's the message:
I am curious as to why you are so adamant about placing this at the top of the links on The War of the Worlds (radio). Do you own the site? The reason I've been reverting you is because the links are already basically ordered in the order of importance (such as sites devoted to the history of the broadcast). I honestly don't care how many decades the Earthstation1 link has been around. Is it really that much better than the other audio download links? After all, the only audio options offered are 28K RealAudio (which obviously can't sound that great) and TrueSpeech (which is soooo 1996). And the link for the award given that you provided is dead. And to top it off, it is a sale site, offering for purchase what one could easily download for free from many other links. Please state your justification for your placement and inclusion of this link, or I may have to take the whole issue to an admin. Thank you.
What's the consensus of the rest here? Quite frankly, the link is pointless, but I'll let that slide as a compromise. It most certainly doesn't belong at the top.-- Fightingirish 22:03, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
This guy definitely looks like a spamster. He has moved it back to the top of the list, and added back the original hyped language. I'd be in favor of removing the whole thing at this point, since he just won't cooperate. Mlouns 00:37, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
As of right now, 68.197.92.223 has gotten a final warning about his linkspamming. We shall see what happens next.
However, there seems to be some sort of difficulty in his links in general. This appears to be a commerce site, and from what I can tell, Wikipedia seems to frown on linking to these (which is why you don't see many Amazon.com links around). Here's what they say:
Adding external links to an article or user page for the purpose of promoting a website or a product is not allowed, and is considered to be spam. Although the specific links may be allowed under some circumstances, repeatedly adding links will in most cases result in all of them being removed.
Adding links to online free videos that promote a site or product is not allowed [see exception below]. Often these videos have been uploaded in violation of their copyright which adds an additional reason for not linking to them
From what I can tell, while the Earthstation1 site does have a wealth of product available, the sole purpose of the site is to sell stuff. If the ES1 site is allowed, shouldn't a buy link for Amazon.com be allowed too? In addition, after looking through some of the products on that site, the legality of some of the product there (copyright violations?) is unknown. I am not in favor of removing the link because of the boorish behavior of the person who put it there. But I am a bit concerned about the suitability of it being there in the first place. -- Fightingirish 15:49, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure that this is set in 1939, not 1938. For one, Welles gives the date at the start. Second, he says that it's after the "war scare" has ended and Germany is one of the nations to offer help to the US. Kuralyov 06:37, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
radio commercials aren't doing it for dramatic purposes, they really are interrupting the program —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.110.223 ( talk) 16:07, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
As a bit of local history, I can share with you that at least some people were in quite the frenzy over this radio broad-cast. At the time, my Great-Grandfather owned the gas-station in Hackettstown, NJ and was well located on the only real route between NYC and PA. My Gramps was in his early teens then, and never forgot this event.
Apparently they realized it wasn't a real invasion and thoroughly enjoyed the radio-broadcast. However, dozens of customers trying to get into or out of the city (NYC) and in various states of panick passed through to gas-up. Sales were very good that night, at least well enough that Gramps remembered it clearly some 60 years later.
I'm sure the media blew this out of proportion - However it would be equaly fictitious to say "There was no panic"... Just wanted to share. (SGP) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.20.146.14 ( talk) 00:25, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
At some point in the 1957 movie and perhaps in the radio broadcast the announcer says "Look to the Skies, Keep your eyes on the skies" or something to that effect. Can anyone help with an exact quote? Thank you. 216.142.5.130 ( talk) 12:32, 27 May 2008 (UTC)DHG