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In one of the Vandals' DVD's commentary, Joe Escalante and Warren Fitzgerald discussed the meaning of "Ape Shall Never Kill Ape" (among other songs) and Joe said it was an anti-abortion song. Joe elaborated by saying something along the lines of "I'm only against the abortions that kill babies". I am not sure which DVD as they were all stolen. Here are the ones I owned: Oi To The World, Sweatin to the Oldies, and the Show Must Go Off. I would guess it was the last one. Ryratt 23:44, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Is this a joke? If not is there any more info?
Someone keeps editing/reverting parts of this article to versions which favor the original early 1980s lineup of the band, marginalize their post-1980s work, and make allegations of plagiarism against band member Joe Escalante (the entry for Escalante experiences similar issues). This should stop for several reasons:
If you are going to add this kind of information you need to provide a verifiable citation. Personal websites and scans of articles do not qualify. You should find citations for your article and/or court documents, or at least a link to a reliable news source with further information. You should also add the information in a manner that maintains the article's neutrality, rather than marginalizing the rest of the band's history to focus on your "controversial" information. IllaZilla2 22:48, 3 December 2006 (UTC) (whoops, thanx)
A small change made in the second paragraph, which referred to Joe Escalante as a "founding member" of the band. Escalante was not a founding member; he was the band's second drummer (this is made note of in a subsequent section of the entry). No founding member remains in the current lineup of the band. Sisu 11:43, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Why are they under both early and later punk groups?
The article Steven Ronald Jensen contains no information that cannot be easily incorporated into this article. There is no sourced information that shows that Steven Ronald Jensen meets our notability requirements for stand alone articles as having any notability outside of his participation in the band. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.69.137.25 ( talk) 01:59, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
I don't know where that unsourced information came from, but there are a number of reasons why this would be impossible:
I just checked allmusic, and it says it was released in 1994. [1] Hoponpop69 ( talk) 18:23, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
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Which year was this album really released in? I see an almost equal amount of resources stating each year. Google, Discogs, and the original Triple X release show 1991. Wiki, allmusic, and the band's bandcamp(says recorded in 90, not released) all show 1990. There's nearly an equal amount of press articles that state either year. I have checked the band's official site, Kung Fu's site, Wayback machine for both, and even messaged them via Facebook(which I am still awaiting a response) and I could not find any officially stated date except for the "reissued in 2000" tidbit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.91.72.130 ( talk) 15:26, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
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In one of the Vandals' DVD's commentary, Joe Escalante and Warren Fitzgerald discussed the meaning of "Ape Shall Never Kill Ape" (among other songs) and Joe said it was an anti-abortion song. Joe elaborated by saying something along the lines of "I'm only against the abortions that kill babies". I am not sure which DVD as they were all stolen. Here are the ones I owned: Oi To The World, Sweatin to the Oldies, and the Show Must Go Off. I would guess it was the last one. Ryratt 23:44, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Is this a joke? If not is there any more info?
Someone keeps editing/reverting parts of this article to versions which favor the original early 1980s lineup of the band, marginalize their post-1980s work, and make allegations of plagiarism against band member Joe Escalante (the entry for Escalante experiences similar issues). This should stop for several reasons:
If you are going to add this kind of information you need to provide a verifiable citation. Personal websites and scans of articles do not qualify. You should find citations for your article and/or court documents, or at least a link to a reliable news source with further information. You should also add the information in a manner that maintains the article's neutrality, rather than marginalizing the rest of the band's history to focus on your "controversial" information. IllaZilla2 22:48, 3 December 2006 (UTC) (whoops, thanx)
A small change made in the second paragraph, which referred to Joe Escalante as a "founding member" of the band. Escalante was not a founding member; he was the band's second drummer (this is made note of in a subsequent section of the entry). No founding member remains in the current lineup of the band. Sisu 11:43, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Why are they under both early and later punk groups?
The article Steven Ronald Jensen contains no information that cannot be easily incorporated into this article. There is no sourced information that shows that Steven Ronald Jensen meets our notability requirements for stand alone articles as having any notability outside of his participation in the band. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.69.137.25 ( talk) 01:59, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
I don't know where that unsourced information came from, but there are a number of reasons why this would be impossible:
I just checked allmusic, and it says it was released in 1994. [1] Hoponpop69 ( talk) 18:23, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
References
Which year was this album really released in? I see an almost equal amount of resources stating each year. Google, Discogs, and the original Triple X release show 1991. Wiki, allmusic, and the band's bandcamp(says recorded in 90, not released) all show 1990. There's nearly an equal amount of press articles that state either year. I have checked the band's official site, Kung Fu's site, Wayback machine for both, and even messaged them via Facebook(which I am still awaiting a response) and I could not find any officially stated date except for the "reissued in 2000" tidbit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.91.72.130 ( talk) 15:26, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
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