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The meat in the Slaver box is tested and found to be "protoplasmic and poisonous", but no suggestion is made that it "turned poisonous", since that would contradict the description of the Slaver boxes as containing stasis fields. Asat 09:55, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
While the recent expansion was welcome, I removed some of the material given;
I have checked on both of these here, fan cites and other wikis have not been accepted as reliable sources for citations. As external links, they may be useful, but haven't been so for inline citations. This is covered in WP:RS and WP:SPS too. Alastairward ( talk) 20:17, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
As worded, I can't support the "The Kzinti would have made an appearance" statement based on a fan site. A wiki is not going to be a wp:RS. Is there an objection to the content? It seems harmless enough, though I would class it is trivia. Compromise idea: Would softening the wording to "There are rumors that...", and leaving the (very weak) source in be worth considering? Perhaps a footnote, with the link to the EL in the footnote? Just ideas.
wp:BLP would certainly apply to the Niven statement. It must be removed at once and either reliably sourced or not re-added. I will do so now.- Sinneed 03:36, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
A section relating to adaptations of the story this story was based on was added. This Star Trek story was based on The Soft Weapon, a story from another fictional franchise, Known Space. The Soft Weapon was expanded into another lengthier story as part of this other fiction franchise.
Including it here may give a false impression that it was this Star Trek story that was expanded upon, when it itself was actually an adaptation too. Alastairward ( talk) 20:17, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
wp:SOFIXIT - I would encourage proposing a change, other than deletion, that would be acceptable. I would encourage the editor supporting the content as-is to propose a change, other than leaving it as it is, that would be acceptable. Perhaps expanding this to show the inter-relation would be worthwhile.- Sinneed 03:46, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
If this was mentioned in a critical review, it might be notable. (As an aside I thought it's interesting was something to avoid in a debate Alastairward ( talk) 20:17, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
Needs sources... lot of wp:OR there. Without sourcing it can be killed if challenged. On the trivia bit... hopefully without being offensive... it's a cartoon, is there any part of this that some/many would NOT consider trivia? It seems worthwhile, if it can be sourced. Probably does not belong in Reception.- Sinneed 03:53, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
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I have to question the relevance of the image depicting "The Kzinti Dark Stalker vessel as designed by Josh Finney" which appears to have nothing to do with episode. I suggest it is irrelevant and should be removed. MrNeutronSF ( talk) 03:30, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
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![]() | A fact from The Slaver Weapon appeared on Wikipedia's
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The meat in the Slaver box is tested and found to be "protoplasmic and poisonous", but no suggestion is made that it "turned poisonous", since that would contradict the description of the Slaver boxes as containing stasis fields. Asat 09:55, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
While the recent expansion was welcome, I removed some of the material given;
I have checked on both of these here, fan cites and other wikis have not been accepted as reliable sources for citations. As external links, they may be useful, but haven't been so for inline citations. This is covered in WP:RS and WP:SPS too. Alastairward ( talk) 20:17, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
As worded, I can't support the "The Kzinti would have made an appearance" statement based on a fan site. A wiki is not going to be a wp:RS. Is there an objection to the content? It seems harmless enough, though I would class it is trivia. Compromise idea: Would softening the wording to "There are rumors that...", and leaving the (very weak) source in be worth considering? Perhaps a footnote, with the link to the EL in the footnote? Just ideas.
wp:BLP would certainly apply to the Niven statement. It must be removed at once and either reliably sourced or not re-added. I will do so now.- Sinneed 03:36, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
A section relating to adaptations of the story this story was based on was added. This Star Trek story was based on The Soft Weapon, a story from another fictional franchise, Known Space. The Soft Weapon was expanded into another lengthier story as part of this other fiction franchise.
Including it here may give a false impression that it was this Star Trek story that was expanded upon, when it itself was actually an adaptation too. Alastairward ( talk) 20:17, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
wp:SOFIXIT - I would encourage proposing a change, other than deletion, that would be acceptable. I would encourage the editor supporting the content as-is to propose a change, other than leaving it as it is, that would be acceptable. Perhaps expanding this to show the inter-relation would be worthwhile.- Sinneed 03:46, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
If this was mentioned in a critical review, it might be notable. (As an aside I thought it's interesting was something to avoid in a debate Alastairward ( talk) 20:17, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
Needs sources... lot of wp:OR there. Without sourcing it can be killed if challenged. On the trivia bit... hopefully without being offensive... it's a cartoon, is there any part of this that some/many would NOT consider trivia? It seems worthwhile, if it can be sourced. Probably does not belong in Reception.- Sinneed 03:53, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
References
I have to question the relevance of the image depicting "The Kzinti Dark Stalker vessel as designed by Josh Finney" which appears to have nothing to do with episode. I suggest it is irrelevant and should be removed. MrNeutronSF ( talk) 03:30, 25 October 2017 (UTC)