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With all respect to the photographer, the Serpentine deserves some much better photos to show it off properly; perhaps showing the Marlborough Gate fountains and wildlife, and/or the Lido, boats, island and towers of Westminster. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jezzabr ( talk • contribs)
Kappa
21:35, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Isn't it's actual name "The Serpentine Lake", i.e. with serpentine as an adjective (Compare say "the blue lagoon"). I mean, I know everyone calls it "The Serpentine", but was sure that was pretty much habbit etc. Like everyone calls the clock tower of the Palace of Westminster "Big Ben" even though it isn't. 161.73.37.81 15:34, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
Could the article give details of what fish, if any, are in the Serpentine? Is fishing allowed? Ausseagull ( talk) 12:19, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
The listing of the River Westbourne as the primary source is contradicted by the River Westbourne's article, which claims it is now from the Thames. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.173.50.47 ( talk • contribs) 13:54, 18 July 2007
I'm having trouble with a lot of the information in this piece but am not confident of how to put it right. I lived in the middle of Hyde Park in the 1960's & '70's and researched all of this, using Royal Parks' historical sources, and can assure readers that the source of the 'The Serpentine' (not called 'Lake' for 160 years - Queen Victoria thought it 'vulgar') is the river 'Bourne'. This is the same river referred to in 'Westbourne Grove'. That area lies at the 'west' end of the river 'Bourne'. The underground river was made to rise in the 'Round Pond' - a reservoir to power the fountains of the Italian Gardens at the head of the Long Water. After flowing through the Serpentine the water again goes underground and rises in the gardens of Buckingham Palace. From there it flows underground and rises again in St James's Park and then, finally, underground once more to the Thames. The work to create the lake was, indeed, ordered by Queen Caroline, who had not sought The King's permission and ended up having to pay for the work herself. The Serpentine is not as deep as is claimed either. In the early 1970's it was drained and dredged, I have photo's of the drained lake and would estimate it to be only 20 feet deep. Yes, there are fish, and fishing is permitted on the southern shore from the eastern end to the Lido. Permits are required. I shall have to look out the relevant paperwork and photo's, I can see. p.s. I'm not very computer-literate and don't know how to discuss this (and some pretty nonsensical errors in 'Landmarks') with the contributors. e.g. Neither the Metropolitan nor Royal Parks Police have EVER had anything to do with the Ranger's Lodge! If they mean the Police Station... That's where I lived all those years! As for the bit about gays cruising... ??? Drivel! Oh, and another thing; In 'History', the celebrations referred to (Andre Previn conducting Handel's Water & Royal Fireworks music) was not for the Silver Jubilee but for the wedding of The Prince of Wales & Lady Diana Spencer. I was there! If some kind soul would contact me and guide me a bit I'd be most grateful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WestEndLovely ( talk • contribs) 00:50, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
The sources I researched in the late 1960's (inc. Kensington Palace archives), assisted by the then Superintendent of Royal Parks, J.R.Hare ('Uncle Robbie'), refer to the water course only as 'The Bourne'. In the early 1970's, prior to the draining of the lake, I watched as large amounts of blue dye were added above the dam (The waterfall is in 'The Dell') to check that the water was following the described source. I will look out the booklet, produced to mark the Metropolitan Police's Centenary year in the Park (1967), in which an article by Mr Hare outlines most of what I have described. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WestEndLovely ( talk • contribs) 13:11, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Interesting article, well done to the editors. I've reviewed it according to the GA criteria and I've put the article on hold pending a resolution of the following issues:
I'll leave this article on hold for seven days. -- Malleus Fatuarum 20:11, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Congratulations to iridescent (talk to me!) on a storming, last-minute surge at the finish. Very impressive. :) -- Malleus Fatuarum 19:13, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 22:00, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
The Project very clearly has a problem as to what to regard as a “lake”. At the present time we have everything from an artificial fenced reservoir with armed guards, to a totally artificial, early-day water park in London, with piped in water from who knows where (no one knows even in 2008). This is all becoming more than a little preposterous!
What are we to experience next, a professionally perfect 20 page posting from the great Disney Corporation, on the technological marvels of Bay Lake, Seven Seas Lagoon, Blizzard Beach, and Typhoon Lagoon in Orlando? Well, why not? The London water park is nothing but part of an early day Disney World and we have given this thing an GA rating! My friends, we must get a grip here and get in the game!
Rather than suggest arbitrary limits for a sound lake definition, I would propose that the idea of a separate “Reservoir Project” be immediately advanced and expanded to include all artificial (man-made) bodies of water of whatever size. Call it Reservoirs and Artificial Bodies of Water or, whatever. Lake Central ( talk) 05:35, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
Lolololol.. Did David Icke name this "lake? UnionBild ( talk) 19:53, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
For years I had assumed the Serpentine was almost shallow enough to stand up in the middle of it, so I was amazed when I recently discovered it was up to 40 ft deep. Even more amazed was I to read here that "The lake is relatively shallow, with a maximum depth of 40 feet". Unless the general consensus says that a depth 40 ft for an ornamental lake in a virtually flat park is "shallow", which would surprise me, I intend to remove the "relatively shallow" part. In fact, I am even tempted to replace it with "surprisingly deep". 109.153.233.36 ( talk) 01:58, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
Several paragraphs of this article are unreferenced, which is not to the standards expected of a Good Article. Chris857 ( talk) 22:46, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved as requested Mike Cline ( talk) 13:03, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Serpentine (lake) →
The Serpentine – As per wp:UCRN curiously demonstrated by the bizarre results
See also Britannica The Serpentine --Relisted. George Ho ( talk) 16:13, 3 May 2015 (UTC) Greg Kaye 12:25, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
Unless I missed it, I can't see any dimensions ! Length ? Widths ? The Yeti ( talk) 16:32, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
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With all respect to the photographer, the Serpentine deserves some much better photos to show it off properly; perhaps showing the Marlborough Gate fountains and wildlife, and/or the Lido, boats, island and towers of Westminster. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jezzabr ( talk • contribs)
Kappa
21:35, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Isn't it's actual name "The Serpentine Lake", i.e. with serpentine as an adjective (Compare say "the blue lagoon"). I mean, I know everyone calls it "The Serpentine", but was sure that was pretty much habbit etc. Like everyone calls the clock tower of the Palace of Westminster "Big Ben" even though it isn't. 161.73.37.81 15:34, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
Could the article give details of what fish, if any, are in the Serpentine? Is fishing allowed? Ausseagull ( talk) 12:19, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
The listing of the River Westbourne as the primary source is contradicted by the River Westbourne's article, which claims it is now from the Thames. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.173.50.47 ( talk • contribs) 13:54, 18 July 2007
I'm having trouble with a lot of the information in this piece but am not confident of how to put it right. I lived in the middle of Hyde Park in the 1960's & '70's and researched all of this, using Royal Parks' historical sources, and can assure readers that the source of the 'The Serpentine' (not called 'Lake' for 160 years - Queen Victoria thought it 'vulgar') is the river 'Bourne'. This is the same river referred to in 'Westbourne Grove'. That area lies at the 'west' end of the river 'Bourne'. The underground river was made to rise in the 'Round Pond' - a reservoir to power the fountains of the Italian Gardens at the head of the Long Water. After flowing through the Serpentine the water again goes underground and rises in the gardens of Buckingham Palace. From there it flows underground and rises again in St James's Park and then, finally, underground once more to the Thames. The work to create the lake was, indeed, ordered by Queen Caroline, who had not sought The King's permission and ended up having to pay for the work herself. The Serpentine is not as deep as is claimed either. In the early 1970's it was drained and dredged, I have photo's of the drained lake and would estimate it to be only 20 feet deep. Yes, there are fish, and fishing is permitted on the southern shore from the eastern end to the Lido. Permits are required. I shall have to look out the relevant paperwork and photo's, I can see. p.s. I'm not very computer-literate and don't know how to discuss this (and some pretty nonsensical errors in 'Landmarks') with the contributors. e.g. Neither the Metropolitan nor Royal Parks Police have EVER had anything to do with the Ranger's Lodge! If they mean the Police Station... That's where I lived all those years! As for the bit about gays cruising... ??? Drivel! Oh, and another thing; In 'History', the celebrations referred to (Andre Previn conducting Handel's Water & Royal Fireworks music) was not for the Silver Jubilee but for the wedding of The Prince of Wales & Lady Diana Spencer. I was there! If some kind soul would contact me and guide me a bit I'd be most grateful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WestEndLovely ( talk • contribs) 00:50, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
The sources I researched in the late 1960's (inc. Kensington Palace archives), assisted by the then Superintendent of Royal Parks, J.R.Hare ('Uncle Robbie'), refer to the water course only as 'The Bourne'. In the early 1970's, prior to the draining of the lake, I watched as large amounts of blue dye were added above the dam (The waterfall is in 'The Dell') to check that the water was following the described source. I will look out the booklet, produced to mark the Metropolitan Police's Centenary year in the Park (1967), in which an article by Mr Hare outlines most of what I have described. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WestEndLovely ( talk • contribs) 13:11, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Interesting article, well done to the editors. I've reviewed it according to the GA criteria and I've put the article on hold pending a resolution of the following issues:
I'll leave this article on hold for seven days. -- Malleus Fatuarum 20:11, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Congratulations to iridescent (talk to me!) on a storming, last-minute surge at the finish. Very impressive. :) -- Malleus Fatuarum 19:13, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 22:00, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
The Project very clearly has a problem as to what to regard as a “lake”. At the present time we have everything from an artificial fenced reservoir with armed guards, to a totally artificial, early-day water park in London, with piped in water from who knows where (no one knows even in 2008). This is all becoming more than a little preposterous!
What are we to experience next, a professionally perfect 20 page posting from the great Disney Corporation, on the technological marvels of Bay Lake, Seven Seas Lagoon, Blizzard Beach, and Typhoon Lagoon in Orlando? Well, why not? The London water park is nothing but part of an early day Disney World and we have given this thing an GA rating! My friends, we must get a grip here and get in the game!
Rather than suggest arbitrary limits for a sound lake definition, I would propose that the idea of a separate “Reservoir Project” be immediately advanced and expanded to include all artificial (man-made) bodies of water of whatever size. Call it Reservoirs and Artificial Bodies of Water or, whatever. Lake Central ( talk) 05:35, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
Lolololol.. Did David Icke name this "lake? UnionBild ( talk) 19:53, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
For years I had assumed the Serpentine was almost shallow enough to stand up in the middle of it, so I was amazed when I recently discovered it was up to 40 ft deep. Even more amazed was I to read here that "The lake is relatively shallow, with a maximum depth of 40 feet". Unless the general consensus says that a depth 40 ft for an ornamental lake in a virtually flat park is "shallow", which would surprise me, I intend to remove the "relatively shallow" part. In fact, I am even tempted to replace it with "surprisingly deep". 109.153.233.36 ( talk) 01:58, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
Several paragraphs of this article are unreferenced, which is not to the standards expected of a Good Article. Chris857 ( talk) 22:46, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved as requested Mike Cline ( talk) 13:03, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Serpentine (lake) →
The Serpentine – As per wp:UCRN curiously demonstrated by the bizarre results
See also Britannica The Serpentine --Relisted. George Ho ( talk) 16:13, 3 May 2015 (UTC) Greg Kaye 12:25, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
Unless I missed it, I can't see any dimensions ! Length ? Widths ? The Yeti ( talk) 16:32, 16 July 2019 (UTC)