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Why are they called "The River"?? 216.9.108.189 ( talk) 23:40, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Ok, so why did he ask about the name ‘the river’?? This does not tell us much. 77.69.34.203 ( talk) 22:11, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
they join the Alde party and group 81.58.144.30 ( talk) 18:49, 26 May 2014 (UTC) They joined Progressive alliance of Socialists and Democrats not ALDE — Preceding unsigned comment added by TURTLOS ( talk • contribs) 03:59, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
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PanchoS: restore position as "centre to centre-left" - both are cited just as often ...
No, not both are cited just as often; an utter falsehood. Your first source states something completely different; and your second one is the blog of a political organisation. Sources in support of centrist:
Sources in support of centre-left:
... and both the S&D alignment and the talks with SYRIZA support the centre-left stance
That's just
WP:OR, I'm afraid.
See also here. Alakzi ( talk) 10:50, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
I do not agree. There are equally many, if not more, references describing the party as centre-left. Liberal36 ( talk) 21:31, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Proofs: http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/jan/25/greek-election-syriza-confident-of-victory-live-updates http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21637395-prime-minister-looks-likely-lose-snap-greek-election-later-month-it-not http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/9610da8a-a496-11e4-8959-00144feab7de.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/greece-elections-new-coalition-ready-and-determined-to-do-battle--carefully--with-eu-over-austerity-10004216.html http://www.euractiv.com/sections/euro-finance/mep-claims-potami-can-tame-eurosceptic-syriza-311509 http://www.enetenglish.gr/?i=news.en.article&id=1984 http://www.euro2day.gr/ftcom_en/article-ft-en/1296288/stavros-theodorakis-poised-to-play-pivotal-role-in.html And, believe me, there are many more. Liberal36 ( talk) 22:17, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFKdEe_Gics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtFaTcb0UkU
Interview parts from 2 major party members. -- 94.71.123.134 ( talk) 11:41, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
The founder of the party has clearly stated that the party draws ideas from liberalism as well as from the left. So the party is not exactly liberal-centrist. Liberal36 ( talk) 21:36, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Look at the articles I have just provided above. All of them referring to the River as centre-left. The party is even more centre-left than centrist. Liberal36 ( talk) 22:20, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Probably the biggest driver in Greek politics is austerity, are they for or against it? -- CartoonDiablo ( talk) 20:46, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
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I think the beginning of the article should mention that The River has also liberal affiliations. They joined forced with Drassi, a fully liberal party during the last elections ( http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite1_1_06/01/2015_545968), and some ex Drassi members are now part of The River. e.g. Antigone Lyberaki ( http://www.antigonelyberaki.gr/index.php/en/) FoSaP ( talk) 14:49, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
To Potami recently Changed their logo, we should look into updating this for the header information. -- 73.123.201.68 ( talk) 02:57, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
If the party is truly dissolved, how come the website is still up, with the copyright on the page having been renewed for 2021? This doesn't make sense if the party no longer exists! Vif12vf/Tiberius ( talk) 09:48, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
It was created by SPD in order to control the situation in Greece during the debt crisis period. It failed, it was no longer needed, so it was shut down. 79.166.4.32 ( talk) 18:36, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
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Why are they called "The River"?? 216.9.108.189 ( talk) 23:40, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Ok, so why did he ask about the name ‘the river’?? This does not tell us much. 77.69.34.203 ( talk) 22:11, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
they join the Alde party and group 81.58.144.30 ( talk) 18:49, 26 May 2014 (UTC) They joined Progressive alliance of Socialists and Democrats not ALDE — Preceding unsigned comment added by TURTLOS ( talk • contribs) 03:59, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
@
PanchoS: restore position as "centre to centre-left" - both are cited just as often ...
No, not both are cited just as often; an utter falsehood. Your first source states something completely different; and your second one is the blog of a political organisation. Sources in support of centrist:
Sources in support of centre-left:
... and both the S&D alignment and the talks with SYRIZA support the centre-left stance
That's just
WP:OR, I'm afraid.
See also here. Alakzi ( talk) 10:50, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
I do not agree. There are equally many, if not more, references describing the party as centre-left. Liberal36 ( talk) 21:31, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Proofs: http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/jan/25/greek-election-syriza-confident-of-victory-live-updates http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21637395-prime-minister-looks-likely-lose-snap-greek-election-later-month-it-not http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/9610da8a-a496-11e4-8959-00144feab7de.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/greece-elections-new-coalition-ready-and-determined-to-do-battle--carefully--with-eu-over-austerity-10004216.html http://www.euractiv.com/sections/euro-finance/mep-claims-potami-can-tame-eurosceptic-syriza-311509 http://www.enetenglish.gr/?i=news.en.article&id=1984 http://www.euro2day.gr/ftcom_en/article-ft-en/1296288/stavros-theodorakis-poised-to-play-pivotal-role-in.html And, believe me, there are many more. Liberal36 ( talk) 22:17, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFKdEe_Gics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtFaTcb0UkU
Interview parts from 2 major party members. -- 94.71.123.134 ( talk) 11:41, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
The founder of the party has clearly stated that the party draws ideas from liberalism as well as from the left. So the party is not exactly liberal-centrist. Liberal36 ( talk) 21:36, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Look at the articles I have just provided above. All of them referring to the River as centre-left. The party is even more centre-left than centrist. Liberal36 ( talk) 22:20, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Probably the biggest driver in Greek politics is austerity, are they for or against it? -- CartoonDiablo ( talk) 20:46, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
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I think the beginning of the article should mention that The River has also liberal affiliations. They joined forced with Drassi, a fully liberal party during the last elections ( http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite1_1_06/01/2015_545968), and some ex Drassi members are now part of The River. e.g. Antigone Lyberaki ( http://www.antigonelyberaki.gr/index.php/en/) FoSaP ( talk) 14:49, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
To Potami recently Changed their logo, we should look into updating this for the header information. -- 73.123.201.68 ( talk) 02:57, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
If the party is truly dissolved, how come the website is still up, with the copyright on the page having been renewed for 2021? This doesn't make sense if the party no longer exists! Vif12vf/Tiberius ( talk) 09:48, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
It was created by SPD in order to control the situation in Greece during the debt crisis period. It failed, it was no longer needed, so it was shut down. 79.166.4.32 ( talk) 18:36, 28 June 2023 (UTC)