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This article needs more sources. At the moment the article cannot be relied upon as it appears to be a mix of editorial opinion and factual statements that may or may not be true. The editorial opinion needs to be cut out, and the factual statements need citing - if they cannot be cited they also need to be removed. Opinion statements such as "Fans familiar with the band's U.S. chart singles are often unaware of how loud and aggressive the early Pretenders could be, and how experimental some of their early recordings were." need to be cited to a reliable source or removed. SilkTork * YES! 11:17, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
This band is called 'Pretenders', not 'The Pretenders'. Every album cover has simply 'Pretenders' as the band name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ianbrettcooper ( talk • contribs) 21:27, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
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23:57, 16 February 2021 (UTC)I would say that it is officially written as Pretenders, but said as The Pretenders. Wolf O'Donnel ( talk) 01:01, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
I agree that 'Pretenders" is correct. The text is updated accordingly Billsmith60 ( talk) 19:41, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
"The subsequent tour (with an added keyboard player) successfully demonstrated Martin Chambers's forceful drumming."
This reads like a review and smacks of justification for the following statement that "Hynde declared that Chambers was no longer playing well and dismissed him". Simply saying that "I saw so-and-so in concert and thought they were great" is clearly POV and inappropriate. 92.234.48.114 ( talk) 14:51, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure by which form of logic Paul Carrack & Andrew Bodnar are considered past members & yet Billy Bremner & Tony Butler are not. Gwladys24 ( talk) 22:58, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
I know another member that’s not listed :) Phoebe h15 ( talk) 10:58, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
Tony hayes is a past member too
Phoebe h15 ( talk) 11:00, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
He’s left the band because of my dad and he didn’t want to leave him Phoebe h15 ( talk) 11:05, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
The Early Years section seems to show a series of events in London leading to the formation of the Pretenders - no mention of Hereford. If the town of Hereford is indeed the location of the original formation of this band then it would be good to have some mention as to where it fits into the chronological series of events already outlined. Gwladys24 ( talk) 17:24, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
"Hynde had a daughter with Ray Davies during January 1983, the "kid" mentioned in the song." Really? The song was released in 1979. O0drogue0o ( talk) 08:34, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
Is Bobby Peterson an actual person, or just a character from the Simpsons? He's listed in the box as being a past member, but not mentioned anywhere in the article. 10thdayoftheweek ( talk) 03:30, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
I recall back in late '80s when I saw them at Oakland Coliseum with U2, the band was billed as "The Pretenders UK", which was a result of a conflict with another band. That would be a good addition to this article if someone can find the sources. — howcheng { chat} 16:28, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
The article contains a good deal of unsourced material and has been tagged accordingly. SunCrow ( talk) 23:03, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
The 14 Sep 2014 performance was billed as Chrissie Hynde [1], not the Pretenders, so I've removed it from the article. NE Ent 11:04, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
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This article needs more sources. At the moment the article cannot be relied upon as it appears to be a mix of editorial opinion and factual statements that may or may not be true. The editorial opinion needs to be cut out, and the factual statements need citing - if they cannot be cited they also need to be removed. Opinion statements such as "Fans familiar with the band's U.S. chart singles are often unaware of how loud and aggressive the early Pretenders could be, and how experimental some of their early recordings were." need to be cited to a reliable source or removed. SilkTork * YES! 11:17, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
This band is called 'Pretenders', not 'The Pretenders'. Every album cover has simply 'Pretenders' as the band name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ianbrettcooper ( talk • contribs) 21:27, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
Fred Gandt ·
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23:57, 16 February 2021 (UTC)I would say that it is officially written as Pretenders, but said as The Pretenders. Wolf O'Donnel ( talk) 01:01, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
I agree that 'Pretenders" is correct. The text is updated accordingly Billsmith60 ( talk) 19:41, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
"The subsequent tour (with an added keyboard player) successfully demonstrated Martin Chambers's forceful drumming."
This reads like a review and smacks of justification for the following statement that "Hynde declared that Chambers was no longer playing well and dismissed him". Simply saying that "I saw so-and-so in concert and thought they were great" is clearly POV and inappropriate. 92.234.48.114 ( talk) 14:51, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure by which form of logic Paul Carrack & Andrew Bodnar are considered past members & yet Billy Bremner & Tony Butler are not. Gwladys24 ( talk) 22:58, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
I know another member that’s not listed :) Phoebe h15 ( talk) 10:58, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
Tony hayes is a past member too
Phoebe h15 ( talk) 11:00, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
He’s left the band because of my dad and he didn’t want to leave him Phoebe h15 ( talk) 11:05, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
The Early Years section seems to show a series of events in London leading to the formation of the Pretenders - no mention of Hereford. If the town of Hereford is indeed the location of the original formation of this band then it would be good to have some mention as to where it fits into the chronological series of events already outlined. Gwladys24 ( talk) 17:24, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
"Hynde had a daughter with Ray Davies during January 1983, the "kid" mentioned in the song." Really? The song was released in 1979. O0drogue0o ( talk) 08:34, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
Is Bobby Peterson an actual person, or just a character from the Simpsons? He's listed in the box as being a past member, but not mentioned anywhere in the article. 10thdayoftheweek ( talk) 03:30, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
I recall back in late '80s when I saw them at Oakland Coliseum with U2, the band was billed as "The Pretenders UK", which was a result of a conflict with another band. That would be a good addition to this article if someone can find the sources. — howcheng { chat} 16:28, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
The article contains a good deal of unsourced material and has been tagged accordingly. SunCrow ( talk) 23:03, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
The 14 Sep 2014 performance was billed as Chrissie Hynde [1], not the Pretenders, so I've removed it from the article. NE Ent 11:04, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
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