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The town where the Partridge Family lived was a fictional town located in Northern CALI. References taken directly from PF episodes indicate a Bay Area location, specifically "40 miles [from] Napa County", which is located near San Francisco in the Northern part of California. If you can find any evidence that they lived in Southern Cali please let us know. Outside of Chris being a "Dodger's fan" and a couple of gigs in Los Angeles, we can't place them in Southern CALI. The idea that they lived in Southern CALI perhaps comes from confusion with the Brady's, or a mistaken FAQ on a misinformed fansite somewhere. Please research before making changes like that, thank you dear. ShirleyPartridge ( talk) 08:42, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Deleting an entire section that has taken many months to develop is not helpful to anyone. "References in Popular Culture" incorporates information without having any "Trivia". ShirleyPartridge ( talk) 09:24, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- Wasn't there a kid named 'Adam' on later shows? He was a lot younger than the others.
Over the past month, a contributor has been repeatedly violating Wikipedia image use policy by uploading images without source information, fair use rationale, or consideration for replaceability. I blocked this contributor from editing after he/she neglected to address these concerns, or engage in any dialogue. Since then, this contributor has created multiple sockpuppets to evade this block and continue to violate image policy. This brings a severe but necessary solution: until there is a conversation about where these images come from and how they may be used, I am removing all of them from the article and temporarily semi-protecting it. ˉˉ anetode ╦╩ 23:26, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
I do recall this from an interview though I can't remember where. I know you've listed sources already, but the formatting is incorrect. I added a link where you can cite the specific source about Jeremy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DATBUS ( talk • contribs) 01:30, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
Since the actual bandmembers are already referenced in the article, perhaps the formatting of the bandmembers should be revised. Also, why include Ron Hicklin but not the Wrecking Crew? ShirleyPartridge ( talk) 22:07, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
I deleted a bunch of items from this section that were not references to the group or show itself, but were references to particular songs. In general, such references if documented at all should be on song pages -- for a popular group listing every time an individual song was used somewhere would be overkill. The exception might be if a group is known for one song in particular, and where the reference or use of the song is a key aspect of the group's identity. In this case that reasoning does not apply. Jgm ( talk) 18:57, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
I maintain that samples and minor covers do not add any understanding to the group's influence on pop culture. Please move these items to the appropriate song articles if you think they need to be on Wikipedia. Jgm ( talk) 13:14, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
So, the songs are important to the show's cultural impact, yet have their own articles. Have you two considered using summary style to include a brief overview of each relevant song here? Failing that, I'd say that Jgm has a stronger case--the show article is already of sufficient length to stand without the cultural references, the song articles are too short and stubby, and the cultural references are more closely associated with the song than the show. Jclemens ( talk) 23:24, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
And, checking back in, I see that despite having gone to the Third Opinion process and having the sought-after input go in favor of removing the trivial items, ShirleyPartridge has again reverted the items and thrown in a personal attack to boot. It seems clear from this and the response to my good-faith attempts at discussion above that this user feels ownership of this article and is not interested in seeking consensus. Sigh. I'm really not interested in spending any more energy over a Partridge Family article so I'm bowing out and wishing good luck to future editors interested in improving this article.
I will note that "X in pop culture" sections have been hotly debated elsewhere, with some considering them (and often tagging them as) undesirable trivia sections while others feel free to include the most peripherally-related items imaginable. For music-related articles I think pop culture sections are appropriate to the extent that the items aid the reader in understanding the scope and nature of the influence of the group/album/song as opposed to just randomly listing every time in history the subject was mentioned or referenced. ( Wikipedia:handling trivia has some good thoughts on this.) This is the basis of the reasoning I outlined above, and generally means that notable song references wind up in song articles, album references in album articles, etc. If there is serious disagreement about this approach, which I have successfully applied to many many other articles, there may be a better place than this particular talk page to work towards consensus. Jgm ( talk) 18:52, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
Personally, I think the “in popular culture” sections are sometimes a nice addition to an article. I guess it depends on how “current” the subject matter is. What I’m trying to say is, I like to see how old pop culture icons influence current pop culture and on the flipside, how we look back on them. Sure, it isn’t exactly encyclopedic in the sense that they’re directly relevant facts, but they do say something as to how people remember or feel about the topic, and that shouldn’t be discounted as irrelevant. — NRen2k5( TALK), 12:07, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
removed from "external links" as not meeting our guidelines for inclusion there, but it appears to be a reliable source that someone may want to incorporate into the article. Trout Ice Cream ( talk) 16:54, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
the following was removed frm the article per WP:V, WP:TRIVIA, WP:OR. If you have proper sourcing, feel free to return the material to the article with its source. -- The Red Pen of Doom 16:12, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
On actress Emma Stone's page it mentions a project (TV movie or reality show,it's not very clear) titled "The New Partridge Family". The link redirects to this page but there is no info or mention of this. Does anyone have any information on this and if so can you add it the the article? Apparently it was intended to be a new series. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.104.148.96 ( talk) 23:21, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
Can an editor who understands tables better than I please add to the table the 1971 Grammy nomination for The Partridge Family that the group received for Best New Artist? Here is a ref for the nomination: The Palm Beach Post-Times. Sunday, March 14, 1971. "Elite of the Record Industry Await the Grammy Awards", page B16. Thanks. Caden cool 23:45, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
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The town where the Partridge Family lived was a fictional town located in Northern CALI. References taken directly from PF episodes indicate a Bay Area location, specifically "40 miles [from] Napa County", which is located near San Francisco in the Northern part of California. If you can find any evidence that they lived in Southern Cali please let us know. Outside of Chris being a "Dodger's fan" and a couple of gigs in Los Angeles, we can't place them in Southern CALI. The idea that they lived in Southern CALI perhaps comes from confusion with the Brady's, or a mistaken FAQ on a misinformed fansite somewhere. Please research before making changes like that, thank you dear. ShirleyPartridge ( talk) 08:42, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Deleting an entire section that has taken many months to develop is not helpful to anyone. "References in Popular Culture" incorporates information without having any "Trivia". ShirleyPartridge ( talk) 09:24, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- Wasn't there a kid named 'Adam' on later shows? He was a lot younger than the others.
Over the past month, a contributor has been repeatedly violating Wikipedia image use policy by uploading images without source information, fair use rationale, or consideration for replaceability. I blocked this contributor from editing after he/she neglected to address these concerns, or engage in any dialogue. Since then, this contributor has created multiple sockpuppets to evade this block and continue to violate image policy. This brings a severe but necessary solution: until there is a conversation about where these images come from and how they may be used, I am removing all of them from the article and temporarily semi-protecting it. ˉˉ anetode ╦╩ 23:26, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
I do recall this from an interview though I can't remember where. I know you've listed sources already, but the formatting is incorrect. I added a link where you can cite the specific source about Jeremy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DATBUS ( talk • contribs) 01:30, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
Since the actual bandmembers are already referenced in the article, perhaps the formatting of the bandmembers should be revised. Also, why include Ron Hicklin but not the Wrecking Crew? ShirleyPartridge ( talk) 22:07, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
I deleted a bunch of items from this section that were not references to the group or show itself, but were references to particular songs. In general, such references if documented at all should be on song pages -- for a popular group listing every time an individual song was used somewhere would be overkill. The exception might be if a group is known for one song in particular, and where the reference or use of the song is a key aspect of the group's identity. In this case that reasoning does not apply. Jgm ( talk) 18:57, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
I maintain that samples and minor covers do not add any understanding to the group's influence on pop culture. Please move these items to the appropriate song articles if you think they need to be on Wikipedia. Jgm ( talk) 13:14, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
So, the songs are important to the show's cultural impact, yet have their own articles. Have you two considered using summary style to include a brief overview of each relevant song here? Failing that, I'd say that Jgm has a stronger case--the show article is already of sufficient length to stand without the cultural references, the song articles are too short and stubby, and the cultural references are more closely associated with the song than the show. Jclemens ( talk) 23:24, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
And, checking back in, I see that despite having gone to the Third Opinion process and having the sought-after input go in favor of removing the trivial items, ShirleyPartridge has again reverted the items and thrown in a personal attack to boot. It seems clear from this and the response to my good-faith attempts at discussion above that this user feels ownership of this article and is not interested in seeking consensus. Sigh. I'm really not interested in spending any more energy over a Partridge Family article so I'm bowing out and wishing good luck to future editors interested in improving this article.
I will note that "X in pop culture" sections have been hotly debated elsewhere, with some considering them (and often tagging them as) undesirable trivia sections while others feel free to include the most peripherally-related items imaginable. For music-related articles I think pop culture sections are appropriate to the extent that the items aid the reader in understanding the scope and nature of the influence of the group/album/song as opposed to just randomly listing every time in history the subject was mentioned or referenced. ( Wikipedia:handling trivia has some good thoughts on this.) This is the basis of the reasoning I outlined above, and generally means that notable song references wind up in song articles, album references in album articles, etc. If there is serious disagreement about this approach, which I have successfully applied to many many other articles, there may be a better place than this particular talk page to work towards consensus. Jgm ( talk) 18:52, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
Personally, I think the “in popular culture” sections are sometimes a nice addition to an article. I guess it depends on how “current” the subject matter is. What I’m trying to say is, I like to see how old pop culture icons influence current pop culture and on the flipside, how we look back on them. Sure, it isn’t exactly encyclopedic in the sense that they’re directly relevant facts, but they do say something as to how people remember or feel about the topic, and that shouldn’t be discounted as irrelevant. — NRen2k5( TALK), 12:07, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
removed from "external links" as not meeting our guidelines for inclusion there, but it appears to be a reliable source that someone may want to incorporate into the article. Trout Ice Cream ( talk) 16:54, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
the following was removed frm the article per WP:V, WP:TRIVIA, WP:OR. If you have proper sourcing, feel free to return the material to the article with its source. -- The Red Pen of Doom 16:12, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
On actress Emma Stone's page it mentions a project (TV movie or reality show,it's not very clear) titled "The New Partridge Family". The link redirects to this page but there is no info or mention of this. Does anyone have any information on this and if so can you add it the the article? Apparently it was intended to be a new series. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.104.148.96 ( talk) 23:21, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
Can an editor who understands tables better than I please add to the table the 1971 Grammy nomination for The Partridge Family that the group received for Best New Artist? Here is a ref for the nomination: The Palm Beach Post-Times. Sunday, March 14, 1971. "Elite of the Record Industry Await the Grammy Awards", page B16. Thanks. Caden cool 23:45, 3 August 2014 (UTC)