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I linked Martha Davis and Warfield Foxes to The Motels page
I've started to add in the sources but it's gonna take awhile to hunt down all the articles. I'll try to add a few more each day or two.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.129.87.69 ( talk • contribs)
(CR).I think I've hit all the sources you had concerns with... now that my eyes are strained to the point of blurryness :-). I hope it doesn't make the article look too unwieldy with all those footnotes. Some sentence structure still needs tightening and your 5 listings on expansion are a future project but at least the tedious stuff is out of the way. Fyunck(click) 08:42, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
I worked really hard to source everything...weeks and weeks. What 75.51.191.113 added was fine except we don't know where it came from. If you are a former band member let me know so I can source it properly, otherwise we need something in print that we can use to verify. We want to stay off Wikis unsourced article listings. Thanks. Fyunck(click) 06:34, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
I changed "So the Story Goes" from Motels listing to her solo, it was released as Martha Davis album according to Amazon.com and other then in it's "Special Thanks To" section it dosen't even mention the Motels as a band. ( Floppydog66 19:26, 7 September 2007 (UTC))
Let's try to keep the sources within the wiki protocol... no personal research. Most personal interviews are not allowed. I have tons of info I could put on this page from personal conversations, memories and keepsakes... but it isn't allowed unless the band members themselves put it up on a website. Internet interviews are shakey and one should always look for another source if possible, however sometimes it's all we have. Fyunck(click) 23:35, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
We were told by wikipedia early on in the development of this page that images of albums were not allowed, even small ones, without the record company's permission. Has the record company relinquished their rights for this image of All Four One, or has wiki changed its tune on allowing them? We can't use photos of band members without expressed permission from the photographer so it seems very shaky to use album cover art also. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fyunck(click) ( talk • contribs) 18:52, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
There is a big problem with adding D. Secord as an original drummer. The line reads that there were extensive auditions i.e. they may have played a gig or two. Heck there was Fretts Ferrari on guitar once also. I know plenty of things I could add but they have no sources and wikipedia requires sources. Word of mouth is unacceptable. You linked Secord to an article that I own and he is not mentioned in it. You also simply erased another reference instead of supplying a good reference. Please find the source and constructively add a sentence about it instead of replacing members of the band. Finally your link to a trust fund is a private website with no info at all. Fyunck(click) ( talk) 08:37, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
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Before I edit the section again I want to check out some facts, unless you have them at your fingertips? The conflict is timing. Did Only the Lonely reach #9 before Mission of Mercy reached #23? I can see that OL was released as a single before MM album cut reached #23 on the album cuts chart. Did OL reach #9 in one month? Fyunck(click) ( talk) 21:45, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
I've removed "All cd copies sold out. [1]" [2] per WP:V, after tagging the previous reference as failing verification. It was replaced with a new reference that also fails verification and is promotional. If an independent, reliable source is not available to verify the information, then I think the information just comes across as a promotion. -- Ronz ( talk) 16:42, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
I've just had a go at cleaning up this article - mostly fixing formatting problems, copy editing for syntax and remedying overlinking problems. However, two things that really jump out at me (as a reader who's not overly familiar with the band) are both concerned with the "Third incarnation: The Motels featuring Martha Davis" section. Firstly, it states in the article lead that "Martha Davis, the lead singer, reformed a version of the band called The Motels featuring Martha Davis in 1989." However, the relevant section seems confusing to me - it refers to the band variously as "Martha Davis and The Motels", "The Motels", "the new Motels", and the aforementioned "The Motels featuring Martha Davis". This section needs an expert on the band to clarify exactly what the band were called from 1998 onwards and also include the correct info in the article lead, which should, after all, be a summary of the entire article as per WP:LEAD.
The second problem with the "Third incarnation: The Motels featuring Martha Davis" section is that a lot of it seems like blatant fancruft to me and not really relevant to an overall understanding of the subject for the casual reader. I've tried to trim some fancruft but not being an expert on the band, it's difficult to know what should be discarded and what should be kept. Again, an expert needs to go through this section ruthlessly and trim out any non-essential info and I would even suggest condensing the "Martha Davis solo" section into this section as well. -- Kohoutek1138 ( talk) 17:33, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
The 2013 gigs that I have seen so far are back under the name Martha Davis & the Motels. I don't want to louse up the article by making a trivial change, but the new date (2013) should probably be mentioned -- not sure about the name. AtomicNewWave ( talk) 00:24, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
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I linked Martha Davis and Warfield Foxes to The Motels page
I've started to add in the sources but it's gonna take awhile to hunt down all the articles. I'll try to add a few more each day or two.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.129.87.69 ( talk • contribs)
(CR).I think I've hit all the sources you had concerns with... now that my eyes are strained to the point of blurryness :-). I hope it doesn't make the article look too unwieldy with all those footnotes. Some sentence structure still needs tightening and your 5 listings on expansion are a future project but at least the tedious stuff is out of the way. Fyunck(click) 08:42, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
I worked really hard to source everything...weeks and weeks. What 75.51.191.113 added was fine except we don't know where it came from. If you are a former band member let me know so I can source it properly, otherwise we need something in print that we can use to verify. We want to stay off Wikis unsourced article listings. Thanks. Fyunck(click) 06:34, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
I changed "So the Story Goes" from Motels listing to her solo, it was released as Martha Davis album according to Amazon.com and other then in it's "Special Thanks To" section it dosen't even mention the Motels as a band. ( Floppydog66 19:26, 7 September 2007 (UTC))
Let's try to keep the sources within the wiki protocol... no personal research. Most personal interviews are not allowed. I have tons of info I could put on this page from personal conversations, memories and keepsakes... but it isn't allowed unless the band members themselves put it up on a website. Internet interviews are shakey and one should always look for another source if possible, however sometimes it's all we have. Fyunck(click) 23:35, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
We were told by wikipedia early on in the development of this page that images of albums were not allowed, even small ones, without the record company's permission. Has the record company relinquished their rights for this image of All Four One, or has wiki changed its tune on allowing them? We can't use photos of band members without expressed permission from the photographer so it seems very shaky to use album cover art also. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fyunck(click) ( talk • contribs) 18:52, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
There is a big problem with adding D. Secord as an original drummer. The line reads that there were extensive auditions i.e. they may have played a gig or two. Heck there was Fretts Ferrari on guitar once also. I know plenty of things I could add but they have no sources and wikipedia requires sources. Word of mouth is unacceptable. You linked Secord to an article that I own and he is not mentioned in it. You also simply erased another reference instead of supplying a good reference. Please find the source and constructively add a sentence about it instead of replacing members of the band. Finally your link to a trust fund is a private website with no info at all. Fyunck(click) ( talk) 08:37, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
The image File:All Four One.jpg is used in this article under a claim of fair use, but it does not have an adequate explanation for why it meets the requirements for such images when used here. In particular, for each page the image is used on, it must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Please check
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Before I edit the section again I want to check out some facts, unless you have them at your fingertips? The conflict is timing. Did Only the Lonely reach #9 before Mission of Mercy reached #23? I can see that OL was released as a single before MM album cut reached #23 on the album cuts chart. Did OL reach #9 in one month? Fyunck(click) ( talk) 21:45, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
I've removed "All cd copies sold out. [1]" [2] per WP:V, after tagging the previous reference as failing verification. It was replaced with a new reference that also fails verification and is promotional. If an independent, reliable source is not available to verify the information, then I think the information just comes across as a promotion. -- Ronz ( talk) 16:42, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
I've just had a go at cleaning up this article - mostly fixing formatting problems, copy editing for syntax and remedying overlinking problems. However, two things that really jump out at me (as a reader who's not overly familiar with the band) are both concerned with the "Third incarnation: The Motels featuring Martha Davis" section. Firstly, it states in the article lead that "Martha Davis, the lead singer, reformed a version of the band called The Motels featuring Martha Davis in 1989." However, the relevant section seems confusing to me - it refers to the band variously as "Martha Davis and The Motels", "The Motels", "the new Motels", and the aforementioned "The Motels featuring Martha Davis". This section needs an expert on the band to clarify exactly what the band were called from 1998 onwards and also include the correct info in the article lead, which should, after all, be a summary of the entire article as per WP:LEAD.
The second problem with the "Third incarnation: The Motels featuring Martha Davis" section is that a lot of it seems like blatant fancruft to me and not really relevant to an overall understanding of the subject for the casual reader. I've tried to trim some fancruft but not being an expert on the band, it's difficult to know what should be discarded and what should be kept. Again, an expert needs to go through this section ruthlessly and trim out any non-essential info and I would even suggest condensing the "Martha Davis solo" section into this section as well. -- Kohoutek1138 ( talk) 17:33, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
The 2013 gigs that I have seen so far are back under the name Martha Davis & the Motels. I don't want to louse up the article by making a trivial change, but the new date (2013) should probably be mentioned -- not sure about the name. AtomicNewWave ( talk) 00:24, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
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