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A proposed deletion template has been added to the article John Felice, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated ...... Ghmyrtle ( talk) 20:50, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
User:Donbodo takes the view that the band can be described as " New Wave" rather than " Protopunk". I disagree. I find it hard to understand how the music they played around 1972 can be described as "New Wave" - the term was not invented to describe the music until much later in the 1970s - maybe 1977 or 78 - and then was used specifically to describe the music that developed after the punk rock explosions of 1975-76. Earlier in the 1970s, the Modern Lovers were influenced by bands like the Velvet Underground and, to the extent that their music around that time can be categorised at all, can best be described as "protopunk" - that is, it influenced the punk bands like the Sex Pistols rather than being influenced by them. The music Richman produced after 1976 can hardly be called "New Wave" either - it was pretty much independent of any genre at all, but bore no relation to the music of people like Talking Heads or Devo, who epitomise the term to me. Ghmyrtle ( talk) 18:48, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
See the following link: [1]. Note the following comments: "Richman's real claim to fame is as the leader of Boston's Modern Lovers, whose single Velvet Underground-influenced studio album arguably set off the entire New Wave movement in the United States." And with regard to the first Modern Lovers album: "The breakthrough American New Wave album, laying out the entire Velvet Underground-influenced CBGB's formula - it ditches any vestige of the VU's psychedelic experimentation in favor of snappy, danceable, and rudimentary roots rock."-- Donbodo ( talk) 18:53, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
In 1970-1972, psychedelic rock was as big as ever despite what many would lead you to believe. A lot of the concepts and sounds of the songs are very much like late 60s psychedelic movement, songs like "Astral Plane" are every bit as New Age mystic as anything you'd find from the late 60s. So perhaps they could be seen to have evolved from psychedelic rock to punk rock and later on to proto-new wave? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.162.34.105 ( talk) 08:44, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
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Image:Modernlovers.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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A proposed deletion template has been added to the article John Felice, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated ...... Ghmyrtle ( talk) 20:50, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
User:Donbodo takes the view that the band can be described as " New Wave" rather than " Protopunk". I disagree. I find it hard to understand how the music they played around 1972 can be described as "New Wave" - the term was not invented to describe the music until much later in the 1970s - maybe 1977 or 78 - and then was used specifically to describe the music that developed after the punk rock explosions of 1975-76. Earlier in the 1970s, the Modern Lovers were influenced by bands like the Velvet Underground and, to the extent that their music around that time can be categorised at all, can best be described as "protopunk" - that is, it influenced the punk bands like the Sex Pistols rather than being influenced by them. The music Richman produced after 1976 can hardly be called "New Wave" either - it was pretty much independent of any genre at all, but bore no relation to the music of people like Talking Heads or Devo, who epitomise the term to me. Ghmyrtle ( talk) 18:48, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
See the following link: [1]. Note the following comments: "Richman's real claim to fame is as the leader of Boston's Modern Lovers, whose single Velvet Underground-influenced studio album arguably set off the entire New Wave movement in the United States." And with regard to the first Modern Lovers album: "The breakthrough American New Wave album, laying out the entire Velvet Underground-influenced CBGB's formula - it ditches any vestige of the VU's psychedelic experimentation in favor of snappy, danceable, and rudimentary roots rock."-- Donbodo ( talk) 18:53, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
In 1970-1972, psychedelic rock was as big as ever despite what many would lead you to believe. A lot of the concepts and sounds of the songs are very much like late 60s psychedelic movement, songs like "Astral Plane" are every bit as New Age mystic as anything you'd find from the late 60s. So perhaps they could be seen to have evolved from psychedelic rock to punk rock and later on to proto-new wave? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.162.34.105 ( talk) 08:44, 6 September 2012 (UTC)