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This section says that 16 actors sued over revenue from merchandise bearing their appearance. However, only 15 actors are listed. Checking the reference cited, it appears that 15 is the correct number and that the list of actors is complete. Can someone check that I'm not missing anything and, if agreed, make the necessary modification? -- Prh47bridge ( talk) 23:25, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Could not find sources when trying to verify Post-production. This material was used to try to verify Lord of the Rings: Return of the King production countries but editing seems to have been done at WEDA in New Zealand not the UK. Pinewood Studios' website makes no mention of assisting in Lord of the Rings. Inomyabcs ( talk) 02:58, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
I noticed the To-do list says: Pare down reaction sections to boxes for RT, Metacritic and Yahoo ratings, box office performances and lose focus on Oscar and individual critics. For a trilogy like this, focus on Top 100s.
If that means box office tables and critical reception tables like most other film series/franchise articles—I'll be more than happy to do that, tonight. :-) -- Mike Allen talk · contribs 23:50, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
There is a debate over at Talk:The Hobbit (2012 film) as to whether we should merge some of the information from The Hobbit films into this page and change the name of the article to The Lord of the Rings (film series), as the two Hobbit films are also part of the same franchise. The merger would cover the production of all 5 films in the franchise. Does anyone have any objection to this? TheLastAmigo ( talk) 15:21, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
There is no lord of the rings trilogy. It is one work put into 3 parts. ( Drlf ( talk) 17:54, 6 July 2011 (UTC))
There is only one "Extended Edition". The Blu-ray edition is not longer than the DVDs, in fact the durations labeled "blu-ray" in Wikipedia are the correct ones. It seems that no one had bothered to check the actual timings on the DVDs and only summed the theatrical versions durations to the advertised "additional footage", however, each film has also 10 to 20 further minutes of "fanclub credits". I'm correcting this issue on the films' pages. Rsnetto74 ( talk) 20:52, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
To The Lord of the Rings (film series). Any thoughts? Rusted AutoParts ( talk) 21:06 4 January 2012 (UTC)
Anybody know how to make the article title show as "The Lord of the Rings film trilogy"? (without the quotation marks, of course) – ὁ οἶστρος ( talk) 14:06, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
This section does not have neutral point of view. - "Wayne G. Hammond, a noted Tolkien scholar" - His wikipedia entry lists him as a librarian. - The review of the Mythopoeic Society essays is by the Mythopoeic society "The book has been praised as balanced and its authors as "truly critical" since they seek to "discern how the films both succeed and fail, and why their massive popularity is both to be praised and lamented." - 8 of the references are to the the same Society — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wakelamp ( talk • contribs) 02:12, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
This section does not have neutral point of view. - "Wayne G. Hammond, a noted Tolkien scholar" - His wikipedia entry lists him as a librarian. - The review of the Mythopoeic Society essays is by the Mythopoeic society "The book has been praised as balanced and its authors as "truly critical" since they seek to "discern how the films both succeed and fail, and why their massive popularity is both to be praised and lamented." - 8 of the references are to the the same Society — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wakelamp ( talk • contribs) 02:12, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
The crude calculation in the Box office section is ridiculously wrong! To say box-office minus budget is the profit is utterly of the mark! First cinemas keep their share of the box-office receipts (around 50%), then distribution expenses and the profit of the distribution company are deducted, then marketing expenses, then the participation of cast and crew, and so and on… actually until today the entire trilogy has (at least to New Line Cinema) NOT made a profit (see: Hollywood accounting for an explanation of this phenomenon). Therefore I have removed the crude calculation of profit from the article. noclador ( talk) 22:59, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
I have added back the section that was archived prematurely. The section "Reactions to changes in the films from the book" does not have neutral point of view. "Wayne G. Hammond, a noted Tolkien scholar" - His wikipedia entry lists him as a librarian. The review of the Mythopoeic Society essays is by the Mythopoeic society "The book has been praised as balanced and its authors as "truly critical" since they seek to "discern how the films both succeed and fail, and why their massive popularity is both to be praised and lamented." - 8 of the references are to the same Society
My proposal is to remove the non notable names and to reduce the size of the section and the quotes drastically as it is overweighted towards the Mythopoeic society. Wakelamp ( talk) 04:54, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Various changes to Gandalf, Aragorn, Arwen, Denethor, Faramir, Gimli, and the protagonist Frodo,[75] when considered together, are seen by some to alter the tone and themes from those found in the book. Several authors contend that the portrayal of women, especially Arwen, in the films is overall thematically faithful to (or compatible with) Tolkien's writings despite some differences.[91][92][93][94] Douglas Kellner argues that the conservative community spirit of Tolkien's Shire is reflected in Jackson's films as well as the division of the Fellowship into "squabbling races".[95] Wayne G. Hammond, a Tolkien scholar,[77][78] said of the first two films that he found them to be "travesties as adaptations... faithful only on a basic level of plot" and that many characters had not been depicted faithfully to their appearance in the novel.[73][79] Also other critics have argued that Tolkien's characters had been weakend and misinterpreted by their portrayal in the films.[80][81][82]
Changes to events (such as the Elves participating at the Battle of Helm's Deep[76], Faramir taking the hobbits to Osgiliath),[75] and the deletion of the chapter "The Scouring of the Shire",[75] are seen as changing Tolkien's themes.
Janet Brennan Croft criticises the trilogy using Tolkien's own criticism of a previous proposed film script “anticipation” and “flattening” . She contrasts Tolkien's subtlety with Jackson's tendency to show "too much too soon".[83]
Supporters of the trilogy assert that it is a worthy interpretation of the book and that most of the changes were necessary.[17] Many who worked on the trilogy are fans of the book, including Christopher Lee, who (alone among the cast) had actually met Tolkien in person,[86] and Boyens once noted that no matter what, it is simply their interpretation of the book. Jackson once said that to simply summarise the story on screen would be a mess, and in his own words, "Sure, it's not really The Lord of the Rings ... but it could still be a pretty damn cool movie."[87][88] Other fans also claim that, despite any changes, the films serve as a tribute to the book, appealing to those who have not yet read it, and even leading some to do so. The Movie Guide for The Encyclopedia of Arda (an online Tolkien encyclopaedia) states that Peter Jackson's films were exceptional since filming the whole story of The Lord of the Rings was probably impossible.[89] This notion is partially supported by a review published in 2005 that otherwise criticised a lack in "faithfulness to Tolkien's spirit and tone."[90] Wakelamp ( talk) 11:57, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Move. Jafeluv ( talk) 11:50, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
The Lord of the Rings film trilogy → The Lord of the Rings (film series) – I know that this page has been called "The Lord of the Rings film trilogy" for some time now, but I wondered if we should possible change it to "The Lord of the Rings (film series)". One of the reasons is because the books are meant to be one book, but the publishers apparently made JRR Tolkein split it into three 'volumes', and JRR I believe did view the 3 books, as one, and not a trilogy. So I thought we could sort of respect that, even though 'film series' obviously means it isn't just one film and we know its three. Another reason is that because of "The Hobbit" has now been confirmed it will have three films, instead of just two. And on The Hobbit talk page the current (short) consensus is to change the page to "The Hobbit (film series)". I would say we could change The Hobbit to "The Hobbit film trilogy", but we'll see what the final consensus is. Charlr6 ( talk) 11:02, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
Can I just say that I am completely opposed to the change to The Lord of the Rings (film series). Firstly, as stated on WP:NCF: "When trilogies are often referred to as such by outside sources, their articles may be titled Series name trilogy." It does not matter what was intended by the books, or what is assumed by some. The name, by studios, by the director himself and by the people is known to be The Lord of the Rings film trilogy. Why choose to change the name? The reason I have found for the change, by reading the Talk page, is to conform to a set criteria, which I have stated above allows the name The Lord of the Rings film trilogy. -- User:2nyte 14:23, 11 August 2012 (AEST)
Charlr6 ( talk) 16:24, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
When a character only appears in the extended edition of a film, such as Sean Bean in The Two Towers and Christopher Lee in The Return of the King, I think it would be useful to have a note which states they only appear in the extended edition of that film, similar in the same way the Marvel Cinematic Universe page does when a character only has a cameo in a film. Any thoughts on this? Frogkermit ( talk) 00:29, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Release dates in the right box list the movies in the wrong order. It lists "The Two Towers" as the first movie released. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.109.15.231 ( talk) 17:11, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
I've just been repeat watching "The Two Towers" (six DVD Edition) and have noticed a tendency for Aragorn's (a right-handed swordsman) weapons to swap sides, as if the negative had been printed reversed. Should we have a section to highlight such incidents; and, where possible, an explanation of why they happened?
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I have noted that the casting list is set to correspond to each of the film poster as accurately as possible. Liv Tyler's name is before Viggo Mortensen's on every single film poster, filmmaking credits on DVDs, and movie information/guide on television. On each, the first three actors read: Elijah Wood, Ian McKellen, Liv Tyler. I have provided URL references/ image addresses for each film poster below.
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Per WP:FILMLEAD, the primary genre classification should be listed in the opening of each LOTR film, not a string of genres that causes a WP:SEAOFBLUE concern. According to the top three sources we use to determine that:
Film | AFI | BFI | AllMovie |
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The Fellowship of the Ring | Adventure, Drama, Fantasy ( link) | Fantasy, Action and Adventure ( link) | Fantasy, Epic ( link) |
The Two Towers | Adventure, Drama, Fantasy ( link) | Fantasy, Action and Adventure ( link) | Fantasy, Epic ( link) |
The Return of the King | Adventure, Drama, Fantasy ( link) | Fantasy, Action and Adventure ( link) | Fantasy, Epic ( link) |
It is clear that "Fantasy" and "Adventure" are the primary genres. The articles will be updated to reflect this. -- GoneIn60 ( talk) 11:36, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
How about adding some of the female co-stars to the list of actors? Really? Not one listed...????
Regarding my edit here, as I commented to Mazewaxie, "...these rows did not have routine calculations per WP:CALC. For example, how do you 'average' between two films when one has 'A' and one has 'A-'? The outcomes are WP:SYNTHesized, 'Do not combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources.'" Other editors are welcome to comment. Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 12:45, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
Clearly some people don't understand that averages have an important part in communicating responses of critics . They help by adding info on a particular franchise . An average score informs readers,users of what most critics think of a franchise on an average/estimated level . Other pages like Harry potter , wizarding world , MCU and DCEU also have averages - so what's so different about LOTR . I say that wiki editors should Apply consistency and put back the damn averages . I'm not going to do this simply because I'm not interested in re-reverting changes I made because some other user/editor has delusions of grandeur. Hpdh4 15:53, 20 July 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by HPDEATHLYHALLOWS4 ( talk • contribs)
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Hi, I need help with the production section. Since there is the page Production of The Lord of the Rings film series that covers the topic in detail, I think it should be shortened. I would do it, but I'm not that fluent in English and since I should rewrite things to make them shorter, I don't think I can do it. I was thinking in writing a small paragraph like this, which summarizes every production phase. I would appreciate if someone could do this. Thanks. -- Maze waxie 15:45, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect The Lord of the Rings film series). The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 May 23#The Lord of the Rings film series) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. 1234qwer1234qwer4 ( talk) 16:15, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
Here's a draft of the recent cast reunion. Not sure which section to put it in - a new subsection under legacy perhaps?
As part of his Youtube series Reunited Apart which reunites the cast of popular movies, and promotes donations to non-profit charities, on June 1 2020 actor Josh Gad reunited through video-conferencing a large part of the series cast, including Sean Astin, Sean Bean, Orlando Bloom, Billy Boyd, Ian McKellen, Dominic Monaghan, Viggo Mortensen, Miranda Otto, John Rhys-Davies, Andy Serkis, Liv Tyler, Karl Urban, and Elijah Wood, plus writer Philippa Boyens and director Peter Jackson. [1] [2]
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I included only the one ref (CBS) but there are many more if needed. CapnZapp ( talk) 18:00, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
I noticed the (alphabetical) order of castmates in my draft (above section) were changed. So I checked the article - there seems to be no consistency. Shouldn't we use the same order everywhere, and assuming "yes", what is that order based on? CapnZapp ( talk) 19:47, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
This section still reads as if organically grown, which is of course how Wikipedia is written and isn't wrong. But now it comes off as hopelessly entangled, with no-longer-relevant emphasis on releases of the first films before the third one was done; it's not clear which edition contains what; and when it says Each film's extended Blu-ray version is identical to the extended DVD version
I can't understand what version (and what extras) are referred to. The encyclopedic value would greatly be enhanced if this section were rewritten to hold a clear presentation of the major releases (and their contents).
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Should this not read 2,991 million (or 2.991 billion if you want) instead of 2,991 billion? The latter figure can't be correct. 95.146.56.26 ( talk) 23:35, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
Apparently there have been a backlash to the casting of Ian McKellen from conservative circles, who called the actor "the worst thing that has happened to Tolkien's legacy" or something along those lines. Ian McKellen spoke out on the whole thing when it happened. The controversy was brought to public attention again by theonering.net in response to the same people organizing a hate campaign against the upcoming Amazon Prime series due to the casting of non white-actors. Does anybody know about reliable sources reporting on this? Sounds like something that needs to be mentioned. 46.97.170.112 ( talk) 08:37, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
With the announcement of a spin-off prequel film to this trilogy, doesn't it make more sense to retitle this article "The Lord of the Rings (film trilogy)", if we're not going to have the fourth film listed here. Mitchy Power ( talk) 15:48, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
Suggest this phrase be clarified - the subsection under development on the move to New Line decribes their reasoning for acceptance of the project as due to having "many promising reasons the trilogy would be successful". Stands out as very vague in an otherwise clear and informative section. Suggest this be amended to clarify the main lines of reasoning - why did they believe it would be successful? Don't have access to the book cited or better sources to offer at the moment or I would have a go myself, suggesting for more knowledgeable and capable hands Equal Inequity ( talk) Equal Inequity ( talk) 11:59, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
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This section says that 16 actors sued over revenue from merchandise bearing their appearance. However, only 15 actors are listed. Checking the reference cited, it appears that 15 is the correct number and that the list of actors is complete. Can someone check that I'm not missing anything and, if agreed, make the necessary modification? -- Prh47bridge ( talk) 23:25, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Could not find sources when trying to verify Post-production. This material was used to try to verify Lord of the Rings: Return of the King production countries but editing seems to have been done at WEDA in New Zealand not the UK. Pinewood Studios' website makes no mention of assisting in Lord of the Rings. Inomyabcs ( talk) 02:58, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
I noticed the To-do list says: Pare down reaction sections to boxes for RT, Metacritic and Yahoo ratings, box office performances and lose focus on Oscar and individual critics. For a trilogy like this, focus on Top 100s.
If that means box office tables and critical reception tables like most other film series/franchise articles—I'll be more than happy to do that, tonight. :-) -- Mike Allen talk · contribs 23:50, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
There is a debate over at Talk:The Hobbit (2012 film) as to whether we should merge some of the information from The Hobbit films into this page and change the name of the article to The Lord of the Rings (film series), as the two Hobbit films are also part of the same franchise. The merger would cover the production of all 5 films in the franchise. Does anyone have any objection to this? TheLastAmigo ( talk) 15:21, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
There is no lord of the rings trilogy. It is one work put into 3 parts. ( Drlf ( talk) 17:54, 6 July 2011 (UTC))
There is only one "Extended Edition". The Blu-ray edition is not longer than the DVDs, in fact the durations labeled "blu-ray" in Wikipedia are the correct ones. It seems that no one had bothered to check the actual timings on the DVDs and only summed the theatrical versions durations to the advertised "additional footage", however, each film has also 10 to 20 further minutes of "fanclub credits". I'm correcting this issue on the films' pages. Rsnetto74 ( talk) 20:52, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
To The Lord of the Rings (film series). Any thoughts? Rusted AutoParts ( talk) 21:06 4 January 2012 (UTC)
Anybody know how to make the article title show as "The Lord of the Rings film trilogy"? (without the quotation marks, of course) – ὁ οἶστρος ( talk) 14:06, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
This section does not have neutral point of view. - "Wayne G. Hammond, a noted Tolkien scholar" - His wikipedia entry lists him as a librarian. - The review of the Mythopoeic Society essays is by the Mythopoeic society "The book has been praised as balanced and its authors as "truly critical" since they seek to "discern how the films both succeed and fail, and why their massive popularity is both to be praised and lamented." - 8 of the references are to the the same Society — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wakelamp ( talk • contribs) 02:12, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
This section does not have neutral point of view. - "Wayne G. Hammond, a noted Tolkien scholar" - His wikipedia entry lists him as a librarian. - The review of the Mythopoeic Society essays is by the Mythopoeic society "The book has been praised as balanced and its authors as "truly critical" since they seek to "discern how the films both succeed and fail, and why their massive popularity is both to be praised and lamented." - 8 of the references are to the the same Society — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wakelamp ( talk • contribs) 02:12, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
The crude calculation in the Box office section is ridiculously wrong! To say box-office minus budget is the profit is utterly of the mark! First cinemas keep their share of the box-office receipts (around 50%), then distribution expenses and the profit of the distribution company are deducted, then marketing expenses, then the participation of cast and crew, and so and on… actually until today the entire trilogy has (at least to New Line Cinema) NOT made a profit (see: Hollywood accounting for an explanation of this phenomenon). Therefore I have removed the crude calculation of profit from the article. noclador ( talk) 22:59, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
I have added back the section that was archived prematurely. The section "Reactions to changes in the films from the book" does not have neutral point of view. "Wayne G. Hammond, a noted Tolkien scholar" - His wikipedia entry lists him as a librarian. The review of the Mythopoeic Society essays is by the Mythopoeic society "The book has been praised as balanced and its authors as "truly critical" since they seek to "discern how the films both succeed and fail, and why their massive popularity is both to be praised and lamented." - 8 of the references are to the same Society
My proposal is to remove the non notable names and to reduce the size of the section and the quotes drastically as it is overweighted towards the Mythopoeic society. Wakelamp ( talk) 04:54, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Various changes to Gandalf, Aragorn, Arwen, Denethor, Faramir, Gimli, and the protagonist Frodo,[75] when considered together, are seen by some to alter the tone and themes from those found in the book. Several authors contend that the portrayal of women, especially Arwen, in the films is overall thematically faithful to (or compatible with) Tolkien's writings despite some differences.[91][92][93][94] Douglas Kellner argues that the conservative community spirit of Tolkien's Shire is reflected in Jackson's films as well as the division of the Fellowship into "squabbling races".[95] Wayne G. Hammond, a Tolkien scholar,[77][78] said of the first two films that he found them to be "travesties as adaptations... faithful only on a basic level of plot" and that many characters had not been depicted faithfully to their appearance in the novel.[73][79] Also other critics have argued that Tolkien's characters had been weakend and misinterpreted by their portrayal in the films.[80][81][82]
Changes to events (such as the Elves participating at the Battle of Helm's Deep[76], Faramir taking the hobbits to Osgiliath),[75] and the deletion of the chapter "The Scouring of the Shire",[75] are seen as changing Tolkien's themes.
Janet Brennan Croft criticises the trilogy using Tolkien's own criticism of a previous proposed film script “anticipation” and “flattening” . She contrasts Tolkien's subtlety with Jackson's tendency to show "too much too soon".[83]
Supporters of the trilogy assert that it is a worthy interpretation of the book and that most of the changes were necessary.[17] Many who worked on the trilogy are fans of the book, including Christopher Lee, who (alone among the cast) had actually met Tolkien in person,[86] and Boyens once noted that no matter what, it is simply their interpretation of the book. Jackson once said that to simply summarise the story on screen would be a mess, and in his own words, "Sure, it's not really The Lord of the Rings ... but it could still be a pretty damn cool movie."[87][88] Other fans also claim that, despite any changes, the films serve as a tribute to the book, appealing to those who have not yet read it, and even leading some to do so. The Movie Guide for The Encyclopedia of Arda (an online Tolkien encyclopaedia) states that Peter Jackson's films were exceptional since filming the whole story of The Lord of the Rings was probably impossible.[89] This notion is partially supported by a review published in 2005 that otherwise criticised a lack in "faithfulness to Tolkien's spirit and tone."[90] Wakelamp ( talk) 11:57, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Move. Jafeluv ( talk) 11:50, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
The Lord of the Rings film trilogy → The Lord of the Rings (film series) – I know that this page has been called "The Lord of the Rings film trilogy" for some time now, but I wondered if we should possible change it to "The Lord of the Rings (film series)". One of the reasons is because the books are meant to be one book, but the publishers apparently made JRR Tolkein split it into three 'volumes', and JRR I believe did view the 3 books, as one, and not a trilogy. So I thought we could sort of respect that, even though 'film series' obviously means it isn't just one film and we know its three. Another reason is that because of "The Hobbit" has now been confirmed it will have three films, instead of just two. And on The Hobbit talk page the current (short) consensus is to change the page to "The Hobbit (film series)". I would say we could change The Hobbit to "The Hobbit film trilogy", but we'll see what the final consensus is. Charlr6 ( talk) 11:02, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
Can I just say that I am completely opposed to the change to The Lord of the Rings (film series). Firstly, as stated on WP:NCF: "When trilogies are often referred to as such by outside sources, their articles may be titled Series name trilogy." It does not matter what was intended by the books, or what is assumed by some. The name, by studios, by the director himself and by the people is known to be The Lord of the Rings film trilogy. Why choose to change the name? The reason I have found for the change, by reading the Talk page, is to conform to a set criteria, which I have stated above allows the name The Lord of the Rings film trilogy. -- User:2nyte 14:23, 11 August 2012 (AEST)
Charlr6 ( talk) 16:24, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
When a character only appears in the extended edition of a film, such as Sean Bean in The Two Towers and Christopher Lee in The Return of the King, I think it would be useful to have a note which states they only appear in the extended edition of that film, similar in the same way the Marvel Cinematic Universe page does when a character only has a cameo in a film. Any thoughts on this? Frogkermit ( talk) 00:29, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Release dates in the right box list the movies in the wrong order. It lists "The Two Towers" as the first movie released. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.109.15.231 ( talk) 17:11, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
I've just been repeat watching "The Two Towers" (six DVD Edition) and have noticed a tendency for Aragorn's (a right-handed swordsman) weapons to swap sides, as if the negative had been printed reversed. Should we have a section to highlight such incidents; and, where possible, an explanation of why they happened?
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I have noted that the casting list is set to correspond to each of the film poster as accurately as possible. Liv Tyler's name is before Viggo Mortensen's on every single film poster, filmmaking credits on DVDs, and movie information/guide on television. On each, the first three actors read: Elijah Wood, Ian McKellen, Liv Tyler. I have provided URL references/ image addresses for each film poster below.
The Fellowship of the Ring: [1]
The Two Towers: [2]
The Return of the King: [3]
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Per WP:FILMLEAD, the primary genre classification should be listed in the opening of each LOTR film, not a string of genres that causes a WP:SEAOFBLUE concern. According to the top three sources we use to determine that:
Film | AFI | BFI | AllMovie |
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The Fellowship of the Ring | Adventure, Drama, Fantasy ( link) | Fantasy, Action and Adventure ( link) | Fantasy, Epic ( link) |
The Two Towers | Adventure, Drama, Fantasy ( link) | Fantasy, Action and Adventure ( link) | Fantasy, Epic ( link) |
The Return of the King | Adventure, Drama, Fantasy ( link) | Fantasy, Action and Adventure ( link) | Fantasy, Epic ( link) |
It is clear that "Fantasy" and "Adventure" are the primary genres. The articles will be updated to reflect this. -- GoneIn60 ( talk) 11:36, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
How about adding some of the female co-stars to the list of actors? Really? Not one listed...????
Regarding my edit here, as I commented to Mazewaxie, "...these rows did not have routine calculations per WP:CALC. For example, how do you 'average' between two films when one has 'A' and one has 'A-'? The outcomes are WP:SYNTHesized, 'Do not combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources.'" Other editors are welcome to comment. Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 12:45, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
Clearly some people don't understand that averages have an important part in communicating responses of critics . They help by adding info on a particular franchise . An average score informs readers,users of what most critics think of a franchise on an average/estimated level . Other pages like Harry potter , wizarding world , MCU and DCEU also have averages - so what's so different about LOTR . I say that wiki editors should Apply consistency and put back the damn averages . I'm not going to do this simply because I'm not interested in re-reverting changes I made because some other user/editor has delusions of grandeur. Hpdh4 15:53, 20 July 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by HPDEATHLYHALLOWS4 ( talk • contribs)
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Hi, I need help with the production section. Since there is the page Production of The Lord of the Rings film series that covers the topic in detail, I think it should be shortened. I would do it, but I'm not that fluent in English and since I should rewrite things to make them shorter, I don't think I can do it. I was thinking in writing a small paragraph like this, which summarizes every production phase. I would appreciate if someone could do this. Thanks. -- Maze waxie 15:45, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect The Lord of the Rings film series). The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 May 23#The Lord of the Rings film series) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. 1234qwer1234qwer4 ( talk) 16:15, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
Here's a draft of the recent cast reunion. Not sure which section to put it in - a new subsection under legacy perhaps?
As part of his Youtube series Reunited Apart which reunites the cast of popular movies, and promotes donations to non-profit charities, on June 1 2020 actor Josh Gad reunited through video-conferencing a large part of the series cast, including Sean Astin, Sean Bean, Orlando Bloom, Billy Boyd, Ian McKellen, Dominic Monaghan, Viggo Mortensen, Miranda Otto, John Rhys-Davies, Andy Serkis, Liv Tyler, Karl Urban, and Elijah Wood, plus writer Philippa Boyens and director Peter Jackson. [1] [2]
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I included only the one ref (CBS) but there are many more if needed. CapnZapp ( talk) 18:00, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
I noticed the (alphabetical) order of castmates in my draft (above section) were changed. So I checked the article - there seems to be no consistency. Shouldn't we use the same order everywhere, and assuming "yes", what is that order based on? CapnZapp ( talk) 19:47, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
This section still reads as if organically grown, which is of course how Wikipedia is written and isn't wrong. But now it comes off as hopelessly entangled, with no-longer-relevant emphasis on releases of the first films before the third one was done; it's not clear which edition contains what; and when it says Each film's extended Blu-ray version is identical to the extended DVD version
I can't understand what version (and what extras) are referred to. The encyclopedic value would greatly be enhanced if this section were rewritten to hold a clear presentation of the major releases (and their contents).
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10:38, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
Should this not read 2,991 million (or 2.991 billion if you want) instead of 2,991 billion? The latter figure can't be correct. 95.146.56.26 ( talk) 23:35, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
Apparently there have been a backlash to the casting of Ian McKellen from conservative circles, who called the actor "the worst thing that has happened to Tolkien's legacy" or something along those lines. Ian McKellen spoke out on the whole thing when it happened. The controversy was brought to public attention again by theonering.net in response to the same people organizing a hate campaign against the upcoming Amazon Prime series due to the casting of non white-actors. Does anybody know about reliable sources reporting on this? Sounds like something that needs to be mentioned. 46.97.170.112 ( talk) 08:37, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
With the announcement of a spin-off prequel film to this trilogy, doesn't it make more sense to retitle this article "The Lord of the Rings (film trilogy)", if we're not going to have the fourth film listed here. Mitchy Power ( talk) 15:48, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
Suggest this phrase be clarified - the subsection under development on the move to New Line decribes their reasoning for acceptance of the project as due to having "many promising reasons the trilogy would be successful". Stands out as very vague in an otherwise clear and informative section. Suggest this be amended to clarify the main lines of reasoning - why did they believe it would be successful? Don't have access to the book cited or better sources to offer at the moment or I would have a go myself, suggesting for more knowledgeable and capable hands Equal Inequity ( talk) Equal Inequity ( talk) 11:59, 2 September 2022 (UTC)