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88marcus:WP:CRYSTALBALL states that this kind of article should be avoided - I'm not trying to erase the article, just move it to the Draft Space until the album has been released. Once the album is released, it is very easy to move the page back to the article space. AviationFreak💬00:12, 19 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose. The album has a definitive release date, cover art, and half of its track listing revealed. The sourcing of the article could definitely be better, but
WP:CRYSTALBALL really moreso applies to albums that have a vague period of future release and next to no details besides maybe a title. This exceeds that in most areas. Ss11210:20, 19 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Support Until it has more cohesive and substantial information and sourcing. Until then, IPs and every tom dick and harry are going to make unhelpful edits. I'd keep it in a draft while it is essentially a draft in mainspsace. —
Calvin99911:19, 19 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose per Ss112. 2/3 of the track listing has already been announced, there are (and perhaps not all are in the article yet) multiple reliable sources noting its release date, promotion, etc. I don't see where the
WP:CRYSTALBALL "unverifiable speculation or presumptions" are here.
Heartfox (
talk)
04:22, 20 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose, what Ss112 and Heartfox said. The album has a confirmed release date, track listing, cover art and a single coming out tomorrow. The release is only six weeks away too, I don't see the point in moving the article back to a draft space only for it to be brought back in a few weeks. I'm sure more information regarding the album will be revealed very soon. --
Lk9509:03, 20 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Ah, well. I always thought being covered by a major news source is something notable hmm. Might have to change my definition a little. @
Calvin999:, as for an icon, that's just a flyby note, not to worry. :)
VincentLUFan (
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Kenton!)
11:39, 20 August 2020 (UTC)reply
I'd focus on the Billboard and other music sources which have already covered yet oddly are not sourced on the working page at the moment. Doesn't get much better than Billboard as a source for music info. —
Calvin99911:41, 20 August 2020 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the
discussion.AlbumsWikipedia:WikiProject AlbumsTemplate:WikiProject AlbumsAlbum articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Mariah Carey, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Mariah Carey on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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The following is a closed discussion of a
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88marcus:WP:CRYSTALBALL states that this kind of article should be avoided - I'm not trying to erase the article, just move it to the Draft Space until the album has been released. Once the album is released, it is very easy to move the page back to the article space. AviationFreak💬00:12, 19 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose. The album has a definitive release date, cover art, and half of its track listing revealed. The sourcing of the article could definitely be better, but
WP:CRYSTALBALL really moreso applies to albums that have a vague period of future release and next to no details besides maybe a title. This exceeds that in most areas. Ss11210:20, 19 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Support Until it has more cohesive and substantial information and sourcing. Until then, IPs and every tom dick and harry are going to make unhelpful edits. I'd keep it in a draft while it is essentially a draft in mainspsace. —
Calvin99911:19, 19 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose per Ss112. 2/3 of the track listing has already been announced, there are (and perhaps not all are in the article yet) multiple reliable sources noting its release date, promotion, etc. I don't see where the
WP:CRYSTALBALL "unverifiable speculation or presumptions" are here.
Heartfox (
talk)
04:22, 20 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose, what Ss112 and Heartfox said. The album has a confirmed release date, track listing, cover art and a single coming out tomorrow. The release is only six weeks away too, I don't see the point in moving the article back to a draft space only for it to be brought back in a few weeks. I'm sure more information regarding the album will be revealed very soon. --
Lk9509:03, 20 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Ah, well. I always thought being covered by a major news source is something notable hmm. Might have to change my definition a little. @
Calvin999:, as for an icon, that's just a flyby note, not to worry. :)
VincentLUFan (
talk) (
Kenton!)
11:39, 20 August 2020 (UTC)reply
I'd focus on the Billboard and other music sources which have already covered yet oddly are not sourced on the working page at the moment. Doesn't get much better than Billboard as a source for music info. —
Calvin99911:41, 20 August 2020 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.